We have seen too much trouble caused by DCHL distributing Lampe Berger in Malaysia. It's time to hit back at this unethical MLM network marketing business pyramid plan.
Get Big Fast....
When Jeff Bezos launched Amazon, he wanted it to grow fast..very fast...
He picked up the smartest people, get them to work, spend a lot of money on advertising, and created a e-commerce success. When internet was still in its infancy, he has thought on the idea of selling online. Books was the first category sold, then it branch out into other products.
Now, why does Jeff wants this so badly? It's like this, when the market is still fresh, you have to do lots of land grabbing, staking your piece of claim before some one else does that. It takes a visionary to see things in the future, but the guy who thinks and does it first, relentlessly, have a higher chance of success.
The other dot coms....most went buzz...but if you have read the stories on dot com bust...it mainly got to do with "Get Big Fast" mentality. Amazon was a survivor.
The problem with geting big fast is, it can become unmanageable. Suddenly you got to worry on so many things running a company. Accounts, deliverables, datelines...inventory,...it just piles up. And if you couldn't clear the mess...you will be overloaded. When you can't think, and stuck with day to day work, the initial goal of where you are headed becomes hazy...ever noticed why so many big companies, mentioned streamlining, cut cost, refocus on their main agenda? It's just another way of saying "lets refocus on our core business". All others are secondary.
Now that's normal companies.
MLM companies have a better strategy to grow fast. Networks, and networks of people, that does the selling, pitching, advertising, transporting the goods for you. Well, which company doesn't want to grow? Soon you will find products that are not needed in the market suddenly receiving demand.
But you see, recruiting more people into the business is actually mathematically challenging. Take for e.g. DCHL. 1 recruit 5 person.
1
5
25
125
625
3,125
15,625
78,125
390,625
1,953,125
9,765,625
48,828,125 (opss...more than the whole Malaysia is under Lampe Berger, don't worry, we shall go to China)
Other MLM companies are sensible enough to understand this threat, so they have binary system.
1
2
4
8
(still long way to go...)
By the way, maintaining so many people under you, would be a nightmare...And it's not easy. You got to meet people after people who might buy or not buy into your plan. Some might accept it, some might not...How many people can you talk to a day? What's the success rate like? The countless nites spending time doing this is luxury? oh wow...
This is the main reason why so many quit...after finding a hard time prospecting.
Growing big only means one thing, the company profits go sky rocket high, just like what the bosses expected. The network? Fed on a bunch of dreams....
posted by Steven Yip at 4:54 AM
37 Comments:
you really get the point, good and nice of you,
but from your passage, it sounds like those who quit are those who cant bear the weight of managing, well, you expect everyone got that skill?
only chances are your learn, but why they still quit, it is simply they unable to apply,
thats i think is the reason why those who quit dont complain, they know that they cant change themself.
you so silly to believe it is so easy, get real.
if math so easy than so good la but it is not, if all the people join lb, means the product is acceptable to all level of citizen, than the market is mutual, and thos who join first got most benefits, those who join late have to do the hard way.
well, you might ask, is not the plan perfect to have most people get rich? get real
first come first serve, it is the main idea of human society, you expect a baby just born can become a pro?
Hi,
1. The math is easy. It's kindergarden maths.
1 x 5 = 5
5 x 5 = 25
25 x 5 = 125
..use your calculator.
2. I did not join. nope.. never..zilch..not into any MLM in my lifetime.
3. The product is expensive. Get other products like 3G phone, ipod Nano, Xbox 360 RM 1500 only. Get a lamp? a lamp? LOL. Why middle class asians needs this?
4. It's a pyramid scheme....the top rip off the bottom. The bottom losses the most.
You see the problem that people dont complain is that they think they are the failures..in fact...I blame the sytem, the company for this.
The chances of you succeeding is less than 1%.
Thank you
well said my friend. It is funny why these people kept having the thought of getting rich quick.
Look at it this way, THE LAMP is just an excuse to divert people's attention that it is not a PONZI scheme.
Let me explain what the hell on earth is PONZI, well it is create by a guy named Charles Ponzi. Its a "business" where members need to recruit new members without selling any products. In this scheme, the most profitable member will be those who joined in at the early stage. However, this scheme is BANNED back in the US. (in fact the whole world)
Therefore, LB is using the same scheme but putting a product "the lamp" at the front line as a coverup but if you look into it closely. They are running on a pure Ponzi scheme.
The thing here is, you will always see sucessful people from LB. Why? thanks to those numbnuts that is feeding them. And you will see the dukes get richer and the new memebrs will be the victim of this program.
I say it totally BS.
nice point too, but binding all mlm company togather is not a good thinking. and looks like lb sell not only lamp, but plenty of products, atleast not like gold coin.
now adays teenager feeding those company by keep on changing thier hp... although is feeding but still the economy is keep moving,
dun keep changing hp, waste of money
It is only not long ago, LB started to take in more products. Before this, LB was known as a LAMP seller company. Correct me if i'm wrong but until today people still do think they are LAMP sellers.
You are dead wrong again "although is feeding but still the economy is keep moving". If this is workable. why do US government BANNED pyramid/ponzi scheme?
Hey, I bet pyramid scheme is moving the country's economy as well.
Hi Jefferson,
Pyramid scheme can move tons of money.
But it doesn't bring any value to the economy.
As far as i can see, LB is sucking money to Taiwan DCHL, and part of the profit goes to Lampe Berger.
Of course, a few top malaysians are profiting from this, at the expense of more malaysians.
So the net flow of money is not actually increasing for Malaysia, but going out.
It could collapse the economy. Possibility is there.
That is very true, we do not know how much it will move our country's economy.
Well, it is useless for us to explain to them because all these people only see a small portion of the whole picture.
What I'm pissed off with is that the method they use to tackle others for the sake of their own.
I have young girls coming to me telling me that I should quit my job because she is earning 5-8 times higher than my pay without WORKING. (passive income) Again, Robert SASAKI comes into the picture. shhhheshhh!!
Get a life!! cant afford it RENT one instead.
Haha nice website. This site is as retarded as the owner. Good job!
Hi anonymous,
Yes, but I think there are more retards in LB.
Well,...just make it simple.
I can bet tat those ppl who join LB dun know about their product,they just focusing recruit ppl and throw product to them only.Even I can bet tat those LB members at home also dun use the lamp as well.
Think wisely,if they say this lamp can clean the air...y dun they put in their cars instead of using "Ambi Purr"?
The chances of success is less than 1%? Then what you are implying here is that 99% of their members has flopped? :D
Dear anonymous,
Look at you ?? you dont even dare to identify yourself with a name or nick. I wonder how could you survive in MLM world.
Somehow I got this feeling that you will say you are not a LB member.
Bah!~
All this Shit only shows that there are 2 type of people.
1) Money Minded
2) Love Minded
Those with money minded will never understand what those who is love minded. They always think that they are stupid, and still go for the tradition way to earn money. They start MLM new and they always criticize other people. Come on be honest, lots of LB people are just bunch of Hypocrite.
Get a life, put love in your heart. Why getting rich so important to you??
For me LB is nothing else but a job that allow you to
1.Wear nice nice to work
2.Be a pert of a big group
3.No fixed working hour
4.Big return if you manage to recruit anyone
5.Big investment when startup
6.Simple routine task (yumcha, ABP, class, NDO)
7.Get to know more people
8.Doing own business
Isn't it nice? No need interview, no need to climb the corporate ladder, no deadline, no pressure, no 9-5 working hour, no working with people you dislike and also think that you can enjoy the passiv income you cant finish spending it off.
Get real!! The above is just empty promises and illusions those cunning LB slave trying to implant into your mind. People with little working experience and lack of business knowledge fall into this easily, can't blame them due to our fxxk up education system and controlled media.
The things you should know
1.LB products is fxxking marked up and noting so special (includes Estebel and EB men plus the suffering EB Spa) How many percent of Malaysians can spend this kind of money when inflation and taxes is getting higher and higher but income failed to cope up with it?
2.You are not boss, you stop you earn nothing, if you dun push your downline you also earn zero, that's why you see all those at the TOP still coming down to entertain you guys (while you think they are so kind and caring about downline, damn touching) You are nothing better than a Self Employed.
3. Passive income? Dun make me laugh. More than 90% of the products sales contributed by members, if members no longer earn big profits from the recruitment they will stop using the products and stop paying the maintanance PV. You still think you can get passive income by that time?
4. The name of LB and DCHL is getting bad and spreading fast. Failure stories, conned experience is happening everywhere, HK & Taiwan now Malaysia. Why want to join a company with bad image and jeopardize your own reputation?
5. If you follow the way and practise the skill you learnt from SYN you bound to lost more friends and relatives than getting them to join you.
coolzero: I totally agree what u say here!
LB is a SCAM!!! Conman,mindcontrol brainwashing business.
They use NLP, Neuro Linguistic Programming in the wrong way.
Dear Mr Jefferson YOUNG,
You got a problem with anonymity? Why not leave your real name and address too since you are at it? You guys are hilarious haha. what's next? come on stop whinning like a bunch of babies. Hahahaha
Dear anonymous above,
Ain't LB members need to study and identify their prospect before they started preaching? Or you just bang your way through not introducing yourself and close a deal with "ANONYMOUS"?
and yeah we are babies you are saying, remember all this words that is coming out from your trap. As you will feel sorry once you understand that this whole scheme is PONZI.
I couldnt be bother about LB members as they are diluted with all the empty promises from LB.
What we are trying to do is to let other realize this SCAM and let them CHOOSE whether to join them. I mean you can have all your BS about getting rich, earning 20k in 3 months.
You can be defensive but time will tell. Wish you all the best if you are ONE of them.
btw, i live in klang utama. 34 jalan batu nilam 3c. drop by if you have time.
Bah!`
Steven Yip,
Why is comments section created for every different section piece of news you put up ?
Most visitors will missed them and comments are not catergorised to topics anyway.
Isnt it better to put all comments in the same thread ? It makes it easier for users and visitors.
I have been missing all the threads and now I could not find the first thread that I have posted my messages. How could I ask my friends to visit my previous messages ?
Dear sincerekind,
I don't know how to group them together. Perhaps you could tell me?
Thanks
some 1 ask ppl to show thier id? he is a internet police, a stupid 1, 1 2 capture n inprison us. ofcoz u will said u not an internet police, BAH!
hilarious, hahaha
syip, i din do much reserch, so can u tell me, how much % is there for a student to get straight As?
better than 1% i guess, will u giv up on study? i wouldnt, i will try my best to become the 1%, but ofcoz i dun nid to sacrifice others, but when u r working, how much % u go to hight rank? will u giv up? i wouldnt, n i will try my best to become the 1%, in the expense of others,
this is what v call the cruel world, i not def lb, but since than u will not believe, n said, "u say u not lb? bah!"
hilarious, hahaha
i juz love blog, bcoz it show out all the ppl's inner mind thinking,
n i juz like flame them.
"The chances of you succeeding is less than 1%". Either your maths sucks or you're just plain dumb.
Understand the meaning of leveraging income. tq
Dear anonymous,
I dont see you guys highlight this point when LB is trying to recruit their members.
"Please join LB it is a business for your future, however your success rate is less than 1%."
See how many people join you la.
tell me what kind of successing story is from 100% or 99% successing rate industry, btw, tell me the industry better.
u open a shop, oso no telling of who will reli go to your shop.
point r clear enuff, u juz 1 2 anti lb, for ur info, i get this news from fren that syn member got 300000+member alredi,
imagine this amount of ppl suddenly lose thier money? i wish the system dun turn out to be flaw, coz if u reli hope that happen, u r reli inhuman. anyway, if they reli lose, c wat it bcome to our country. catastrophy...
Dear anonymous,
That SYN members that is earning 300k could be one of the pioneer. Can't you get any knowledge from this blog? Its a pyramid scheme, that is why some will need to earn that type of money at the cost of recruiting/sacrificing more members.
Pyramid scheme doesnt weigh much is helping our economy. It is just mainly wealth transfer from one individual to another.
And it could be worse if the company is not local. Then all our money gets drained out to their country.
you are correct CATASTROPHY...
so jeff, u hope it is reli flaw so our country will b in CATASTROPHY?
or u wish it is not flaw so our nation will survive the treat?
make ur choice, there is no option (c)
Dear anonymous,
There is options C. Is to create awareness to the public about the pros and cons on this type of business then let them decide.
You see, it is better to identify if there is a flaw in this business at the earlier before more and more people invest into it taht will bring greater impact to our country.
Bear in mind that our government cannot babysit us too much even we are a loyal flag carrier.
that is not an option, tell the true, u 1 our nation in castastrophy or not?
create an awareness is like making the traffic light always in yellow, ppl still will dump in to the business, it is simply bcoz the power of money is always there,
it is not about the reality, it is about u, jeff, wat u hope for? is it a castastrophy?
my question is not for others, is for u onli, r u so cruel to hope it is a castastrophy omen or juz another joke?
the second the whole world thinks dchl is a flaw comp, the 300000+ ppl wil suffer,
i juz want to know how u choose,
wow... playing the numbers game here... trying to scare ppl kah?
just like government lor, ppl last time say close down proton, u know wat government said? if close down proton, then 300k ppl will be jobless, unemployment rise, economy down blablabla...
so they keep proton alive so 300k workers can eat while 26 million malaysians have to suffer low quality high priced car...
very brilliant idea!
mr andrew didnt get the meaning from the msg, the question is only for jeff, i m juz so curious about mr jeff's personality.
for u, do u drive proton? and r u sure all msian suffering? c our pm n sultans driving wat?
for the proton case,
msian who salary so low, buy kancil can la, who cares the car quality, can faster than u walk can adi la, or u r so high class ppl?
for me, i prefer govt nvr drop down the car price, c kl so dam jam u still 1 it to b more jam, n if u stay 1 day out of town, u feel the world is so beatiful
if others scared, sorry i didnt mean to, i reli 1 2 c mr jeff answer it
i can see our ex-pm drive a porsche cayenne, i saw kelantan sultan who owns the only lambo diablo here in malaysia, i saw our agong only gets chauffered around in Rolls Royce with police outriders. ok maybe u'd say it's their status as head of state thus they can ride anything they want.
for the rest, well i'm not gonna argue with you, not until u have the understanding of automotive economics as much as i am, i'll leave this as it is.
this is an old post, if u intend to have ur questions answered by Jefferson, u better find him at the latest post. not here.
anonymous,
You have a brain of a peanut. I dont understand a single sentence you are trying to tell me.
If you are talking about supporting country. Why dont ask all LBer to drive Perdana instead of BMW??
Dont talk about how LB can help/support our country's economy because it doesnt do any help at all.
Btw, if the LAMP is made in malaysia then ill STFU. OUr money is going out instead of flowing in.
Hello Everyone!!!,
I'm Ah Wai from MLM. Such a nice post from all of you :)
I admit sometimes the MLMers always use this kind of tactic of luring "potential" people into their business. Eg. N-stream, Synergy, Herbalife, Lampeberger, Amway, Diamond, eCosway, IMagic, NuSkin, CNI and etc.
I'm also ex-anti MLMer just like you all. Proud to be antiMLMers. "MLM is conbusiness" and "StudioTraffic is PONZI SCHEME!" Hehehe... :)
But, AT LAST i realise in this World of Events..."Capitalism"
EITHER YOU CON PEOPLE OR PEOPLE CON YOU...you choose!
Sami Vellu, politicians, MPSJ, MPPJ, MBI, dato, datuks, Thaksin, Arroyo, Suharto, *me* and etc also CONNING people $$$ only what...
I only take little con $$$ while the *people mentioned above* CON the "rakyat" & taxpayer's $$$ BIG TIME! SO what is the FUSS?
I con my lecturer before, i cheat on my exam before, i Ponteng class before, i cheated during SNOOKER, i cheated my fren before, hell i even con my GF before. Hahaha. What is the BIG FUSS?
As i say, EITHER YOU CON PEOPLE or PEOPLE CON YOU...Its a survival skill!
Its better for us, "the little guy with no $$$" to con little $$$, than "the BIG SHOT GOVERNMENT officials" to con the rakyat $$$.
RIght?
I'm DAMN sure the GOvernment DOn't MIND this little $$$ one.
AIyah, we group together as a group of "hardcore anti-lampeberger", then we charge those people who is also "anti-lampeberger" RM 100 each. Then, we also make LOTS of $$$.
Simple calculation,
RM 100 x 10,000 member (ANTI-LAMPEBERGER) = RM 1,000,000!!!!
Then, we BUY Ferrari and BMW to drive to Menara HLA, park at the FRONT and BURN them. This we show that we also can make $$$ ma!!!
DAMN good IDEA...!!!
WE group together ok...WE KEEP in touch! Malaysia BOLEH!
Remember, my name is AH Wai from SYN DCHL Lampeberger :)
How sad a person on earth will say this. If the world really like what you've said, you wouldn't exists at the first place. Will you survive this far from an environment when ppl cheating each other? Tell your philosophy to you parents and see what they say.
Amazon did get big fast but they reported losses for years before they turn into profit.
how are you felling today?! alright.. just get it straight. if u said that lampe berger do so pyramid scheme the ask your booty bos... or look at your family?? is that a look like pyramid too?? think positif not kuno like some guy that just come out from some planet of the ape...!! huhuhuhuhuhuhuhuhuuuhuhu
hahaha... enjoy reading all the
posts.. come across this while searching for Estebel Spa facial reviews ... they r hving discount now.. slashing price fr RM288 to just RM88 for 90 mins.. so tempting
.. but hmm.. wonder if i shud go now.. if theres nothing special bout it.. scared to be pushed to buy products.. then it bcomes a pressure.. not leisure! anyway.. u guys r really funny.. i kept laughing.. so sarcastic.. love it..
keep up the good work ... debating.. haha~~~~~
p/s: i nvr nvr believe those wat wat wat amway la.. herbalife la.. maybe i will buy to try try their products for fun fun la.. join to be sales person? soli la.. rather read book.. ok la.. mayb u will say i no future la cos lazy pig with no motivation to get ahead n get rich.. let me tell u.. i dun give a damn.. b simple .. work hard save $$ hard.. then u also can enjoy old age with enuff savings la.. dun dream of impossible dreams n treat urself as a failure when ur heaven dreams get bust ... then go suicide.. work hard.. gossip less.. enjoy gd food n company of fam n frenz.. then it is heaven d.. dun b gila!!! work hard n u might get something in return.. wateva la
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