Monday, November 13, 2006

What is Lampe Berger, Actually?

I got another email about Lampe Berger. You can actually summarize this is what is all about the business scam.

It's a product disguised pyramid scheme. The product is to legitimise it. But the whole idea...is getting people to sign up (who has to pay up high fees), so the upline can earn part of it. And the company earns also. And from this never ending chain...it has to end somehow....the bottom are the losers.

Why, are some people so easy to be cheated?

Greed, and not street smart.

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Dear Steven,
Just yesterday I met an old friend and he took me out for a drink, he started talking about how only money matters and that it's no point having a job you are passionate about. He talked a lot too. He was never like that, he had a strong passion for animation and even attended animation college. He was always quiet and kind. But now he really talked up a storm and when I said he has changed from his timid self, he said that is life and you have to change to survive.
He took me to SYN and some guy called stanly there gave me the sales pitch. It took almost 4 hours and after that they went out for tea again and so I was with them for a total of 7 hours. He said the same things my friend said to me and that is when i figured out who brainwashed him. After getting back home and thinking clearly about everything they said, after filtering out all the fancy words and propositions like "It's a franchise", "RM2500 is a small price to pay for a license", "You are buying our system", "We are not a direct sales company", I understood exactly what this company does. It's basicly a recruitment pyramid scheme that would be illegal if they did not give you anything for the $2500 you pay to sign up with. They say they are selling a franchise, a system to help you do buisness and set up a network. But their system is nothing more then the knowledge of how to recruit more people with a shady sales pitch. They spend all their time talking to each other about how to do buisiness when in reality there is no buisiness to do. They do not get income from the public as they do not sell anything, they do not realize that they are the prey and their so-called leader Steven Yeam is the hunter. They say by signing up you get the E-Card which is a license and you can buy Lamp Bergers at distributor prices but there is no point in doing that as they have also mentioned that they do not do direct sales.
But you knew all of that having been through it. The reason I am writting to you is to ask you if you have any advice on what I can do to help my friend? He is like all the others a total zombie now. He doesn't listen to what I have to say and I can't get through to him at all. You mentioned they will ask you to invest 30k laters? IS there any chance you could fill me in on what happens next? He just joined about 1 or 2 months ago, if there is anything I can do to prevent him from losing all of his life savings, I would like to atleast try. So please, any help at all would be extremely appreciated.
Best Wishes,
Reith

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And here's a nice email from a supporter of Lampe Berger.

know nothing better shut up. ur website is just a crap. listen from what
people said, u care. u read book, u read a book that is negative thinking?
no experience better go a side. ur website doesnt give a reason about DCHL.
u not really understand. plz understand more before u voiced out anti-lb.
u'r just like a dog. sorry to say. what invest 30k? then whats the result?
what upline go petaling street? ur mum asshole ? DCHL got many group of
people, that is his group problem, not success is his group problem, how do
we know? u care to know? u care ur ownself more better. everyday do nothing
just to care this thing for fun ? nothing better to do? go wash ur toilet. u
really ham ka chan. why dont show full face? scared to get popular? if u did
it right, u scared to get popular? scared to be hero? got something behind
ur back? this is their personal problem, doesnt related with dchl. one word.
close ur website, u r really a rubbish.
"Nice, ....why not....high five !" is probably what Borat going to say...


38 Comments:

Blogger KY said...

hahaha, ridiculous

10:50 PM  
Blogger jackal said...

emmm!! my comment is just make sure yrsf dont involve in the scam, then leave those "brain-washed zombie" alone.

no matter how hard u try to help, countless of bad example or advise given, they just wont care. the best way is to let them fail, hit the wall themselves. then they will awake. right?

3:50 AM  
Anonymous irenelim said...

i dont know what exactly happend inside. my friend and her sisters and brother joined the Lampe Berger for almost 5 years. Heard tat they are doing well, one get vios, one get altis, one get camry. But so many years liao, i still not join them..haha

6:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ins0mNiA aka BananaStation
well indead it stopped 30k for count as 30k for a count killed alot of Count's

12:34 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

I think tat LB supporter smell to much of Lampa oil and always suck Steven Yeam's lampa(dick) too much liao.

No medicine can cure all LB supporter,they are the "whore" and "gigolo" to SYN!

2:45 AM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

to LB supporter
Old story, new cheating ways.SYN will continue to grow but SYN members like u wont grow.Instead u will remain in debt.Your friends will leave u.But what do u care?Because u are taught to help ur friends by bringing them to SYN.Think properly and ask urself-Do u really wanna help them or just want to compensate for ur loss to SYN.I am not against MLM.But i am against Ponzi scheme.U may say anti lampe Berger Got nothing to do and ask us to care our own bussiness.Do u know that just because of this type of attitude Malaysia The boleh land become tak boleh?If no body care rest Assure i will Care what u LB people have done to the society

7:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did any of you see the show Ed on Astro yesterday (15/11). It was talking about how Ed's brother was being charged for running a pryamid scheme where the focus was "selling the right to sell the product", i.e. recruitment instead of selling the actual product.

A good comedy but nevertheless, reminds us on what pryamid scheme is all about, which is "selling the right to sell the product" and not selling the actual product.

-preacher-

8:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wahaha .. what a good website u have here .. actually i'm also one of da LB partner .. but honestly i'm kinda agreed of certain arguments from u'all Anti LB .. i can take your points as my research & study ..

so keep it up loh .. !

10:47 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

irenelim said...
i dont know what exactly happend inside. my friend and her sisters and brother joined the Lampe Berger for almost 5 years. Heard tat they are doing well, [b]one get vios, one get altis, one get camry.[/b] But so many years liao, i still not join them..haha

Well,correction...is it 3person share together to buy a vios,1 rent altis and 1 camry which borrow from sum1 else?

I thought those LB ppl like BMW so much 1?

11:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poor LB guy can't even put together a proper sentence

3:59 PM  
Anonymous who cares said...

lampe berger stand for Lame ass Business

4:16 PM  
Anonymous Prince said...

I heard something really funny today. Tell have admitted that LB can survive in Malaysia anymore. They have change their recruiting pitch to do it Internationally like China.

What a load of crap! Even big company in Amway have to do retailing there. And you think Lampe Berger can have the license to do direct selling there?

But wait up, they don't have to. They are just a recruiting scam. Screw all LBs.

9:54 PM  
Anonymous TEH POWAH said...

Should publish more mail like that.

Show to the world what kind of people they have in DCHL/LB/SYN.

People who are only interested in your money and worshipping a cult leader.

BTW keep up the good work!

7:39 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Remember..always remember that:

Once a Lampa,forever a Lampa!


LB ppl likes to talk "Lampa"!

12:24 AM  
Anonymous Eric L said...

HAAHHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH....i laughed like mad when i read what the Lampe Berger fellar wrote..dude, do you even have your UPSR done? Even my 4 year old cousin can write better than you. such a shame..making a fool outta urself. damn..

7:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't imagine how an ah beng/ah lian lead our country with such kind of english. "1 thing my old man tells me, money can't bring with you when you died" so money not everything.

10:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is why LBers can't even get a proper job with those kind of 'super' power they possess. Speaking the same language, same circuit board...

10:34 PM  
Anonymous moshpit said...

thank to this site and this community, this site might be cant bring down the SYN totally, but i gotta tell u, it works.. it warns ppl who is lucky(or even i can tell smart enough) to do research before they do or get into somethin. In this case before they join or sell their soul to SYN. i wont give any factual experience here, but keep up the good work, and do the society a big favour, keep this site up and running!!

just represent the society to tell u this...

-peace-

12:49 PM  
Anonymous Chilled said...

Juz wondering if Malaysia's media know about this scam? i guess media could play an important role to aware community about this business scam. Write to some famous journalist from thestar or
times. Hope it help!!

8:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harimau Laut...
Well I got some romuor said that... Red Wine and Perfume (cologne) will be introduce in DCHL as well... means DCHL will have Lampe Berger... Estebel... Red Wine... and perfume...

Keep it up Steven!

5:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im in hard situation right now.
surrounded by lb people most of the times no matter in college, daily life or nightlife. few good frens of mine are doin lb as well as my bf. he brought me to the office and his fren started to crap for hours. i followed my bf to hang out and club with his frens all these days, its fun but i wonder will they still treat me the same way as if i dont wanna be their partner. im in hard situation right now..im glad that my bf and frens are doin well in the company but im not into it. 2k is not a big deal but im just not interested u know. im torn in between right now..help me..im really afraid that i havta lb someday =_=

12:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

my comment is, where u get the marketing plan ?

8:47 AM  
Anonymous pinky said...

go steven yip!!! down with lampu berger...

2:20 AM  
Anonymous pinky said...

if your bf join lb i think your should leave him liaoz. lampe berger is just a ponzi scheme and it will collapse soon... your bf now drive bmw will drive motor later..

DON'T BE A VICTIM!.
2k is no big deal for me but if everyone give steven yeam 2k that's why he's a billionaire now.

2:25 AM  
Anonymous AMWAY member said...

leave lampe berger and come join us at AMWAY

10:34 PM  
Anonymous f_cking said...

act,cant totally blame those lbers...
there's a chinese phrase sound "if cow dun wan to drink,no1 can push it's head down"...
anyway,jus wan to say tat,there is no free lunch in tis world,do u think with ur 2k,u can claim a BMW??
haix...wake up,man!!!b down to earth,tat's wat count!!

6:36 AM  
Blogger jackal said...

i met a few ex-LB members that cried of their 30k. those who claimed that they earned 20-30k / mth from LB r now looking for part time job everywhere.

whoever wanna buy cheap bmw, can ask those LB guy to sell u. press their price or else tarik balik by bank.

its proven as a short term speculation scam and late comer wont earn at all. but still people hitting their head against the wall.... haiiiiiii

7:31 AM  
Anonymous Andrew said...

Be firm on your belief and hold ur self confidence high.

My gf and her whole family is into AMWAY. so what?

i made it clear that i'm not interested in all those and i'll do it my way to make it in life.

if i'm being looked down as "someone who will not succeed in life" just because i dont buy into all these "be-your-own-business-owner" cow dungs, then she's a gf and her family an in-laws that i can dispense with.

i gave her leeway, if she wanted to join in and be active, go ahead, i respect her choice, and i wont be stopping her. but in return i demand the same respect on my decision that i'm NOT going to join in no matter what.

If push come to shove, then i'll just walk off and find another gf. No big deal.

7:33 AM  
Blogger jackal said...

to the annoy that bf joined LB:-

if yr bf still human, tell him that if he become rich by LB, can bring u good life aledi, wat for to ask u join?

if he admit he has jumped into hell, why pull u down? if he is still understand human language.....

for stev yip, haha! u know how LB got $ to buy u a casket? provided u "invest" 2k lah. just enough for a casket. for those invested 30k, enough for 10.

my god, my face look exactly like u. i better be careful when walk on street. hahahaha

7:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dont know such blog exist..haha...

anyway, there was once when i was amazed and awed by a friend who is my age driving a bimmer(2nd hand one though)...asked around and they told me he was with lampa bugger...wow! at a moment ,i had this utmost respect and admiration towards him...

finally found out...aiya...mana tau, the bimmer was a "shared" purchase by a few lampa bugger fellas, used 2 "trick" other ppl into seeing how "successful" they are...freaking lame..

11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LoLz...i like their nick "LAMPA BUGGER" Anyway...hope those Lampa Bugger won't exist anymore...

12:31 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

to annoy who bf join LB:

I think ur bf next step is ask u to join,later ask u to upgrade and invest more $$$ (RM30K)

Later,if the "business" failed,he will ask more $$$ from u!

12:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I personally like Lamp Berger, I used to use the product before I knew they sell it thru MLM in Malaysia. The one I used was a gift from a French friend.

I don't quite like DCHL. SOmeone I trusted manipulated me. I was quite lucky to get back 90% of my money even though I should get them all back.

There is a regulation in their system that if items are returned, the sales accumulation maybe recalculated, which may cause a Marquis to go back to Count, etc. So what they do is selling all promotional items to the naive new recruits so that they cannot get back their money thru refund. Not all the items are promotional but this is what they will tell the person who wants to quit. Items are promotional, so you can't return them.

11:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to all who had just joined LB, a word of advice, if by the 5th month you cant recruit anyone, u better return all the goods back. although you will lose some, its better than getting none back. and pls, when u joined, remember to redeem those LB oil (so u may return them back later) rather than those Estee Belle skin care( trust me, no one would buy skin product that cost that much n never been hear< might as well buy SK@). I know no matter wat we said, u had been brainwashed to join, this is just another step to protect urself when u will wake up later.

10:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if one day, the curse of the LB spread all over the malaysia, just imaging everyone in malaysia become LB members.... then everyone just smell that lampa oil, don't need to eat?????

11:45 PM  
Anonymous Salah said...

if one day, the curse of the LB spread all over the malaysia, just imaging everyone in malaysia become LB members.... then everyone just smell that lampa oil, don't need to eat?????

11:50 PM  
Anonymous Big Bike Club said...

pinky said...

if your bf join lb i think your should leave him liaoz. lampe berger is just a ponzi scheme and it will collapse soon... your bf now drive bmw will drive motor later..


if lucky to have motor hahahah! im using motorbike, but doesnt mean im poor! i like to drive scooter and it no cheap, i bought if cash RM7k plus. and i got another one more Superbike cost around RM20k over. while i only drive kelisa 1.0 year 2005 car.

so LB'ers i was wondering if they have enough money to buy 2nd hand kancil with $180 installment per month. ok maybe u r lucky to get a 2nd hand BMW, but mark my word. the day u cant afford to pay it, my bike (scooter) is still in good condition and still have 4k market value :D:D

3:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

X, my close friend said he was into a new business. Pity him, he didn’t ask for my advice. Luckly I found this blog. First of all as a MLM member before this, I was doubtful with their marketing plan, it seems more like pyramid scam or ‘skim cepat kaya’. Ur investing 2k plus just to con others and get products u don’t actually need. They call this a business? First of all they have too many names to confuse people DHCL? RZ Corp? Lempeberger? SYN? etc. And they don’t reveal anything until u get there, to much secrecy. The biggers losers would be the middle classs people, invested their hard earned savings. Their moto ‘if u cheat others u live ,if not u die’ , Blood money anyone?

2:13 PM  

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