Tuesday, October 03, 2006

DCHL New Tactics

I got this email from an ex Lampe Berger member. So read up, and beware.
It's all the life changing effect stories that all MLMs always tell,...don't you think it's a bit fairy tale like?

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Hi. I have new insider info regarding SYN's campaign efforts to rebuild their name. Being an ex-member of SYN myself, I have tried to warn my friends of their new schemes. Their new system is called PAY-IT-FORWARD. What they do is they will go all out to invite you to meetings (all paid 'forward' by SYN) in an attempt to sway you to believe that their people are going all out to help you.

These meetings do not talk about product or marketing plan. Rather they talk about how good the MLM industry is and do sharing afterwards telling you how MLM changed their lives. After the talk then only they will start winning you over with friendship or love bombing so the 'p' will feel at home and would willingly want to know more about the LB business.


PAY-IT-FORWARD is actually a front to retain their members and change their image. However, what they don't pay forward for you is the FRANCHISING FEE (RM2345) which you still have to fork out yourself. Having all sorts of free meetings and 'sharing' information or awareness is just a smokescreen to lure more people in.


They say that they will go all out to help people with their problems until they are ready to join. However, if an ex-COUNT were to go up to their Marquis and ask for help with their products in an attempt to recover some capital, they will give you bull shit and refuse to help you. They will only help new 'p' but they won't help their downlines.


Please keep up the goodwork and keep the antiLB awareness going. Thanks.




LB SPY.

5 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep up the good work!

12:54 AM  
Anonymous cheez said...

all these posts about DCHL/LB/SYN makes for interesting reading. certainly there's a lot of passionate feelings involved.

in most anti-LB postings, i find a common theme: ppl got cheated cos LB members recruit based on greed.

let me state clearly that i 100% SUPPORT this statement!

but then, it's a fact of life that like attracts like. greedy ppl will attract and recruit greedy ppl and the cycle goes on until one day it collapses, because greed can never be the basis for any kind of success in life at all.

now my LB story...

my sis dragged me along with her to see the LB marketing plan in 2003. i was reluctant cos i was not interested in MLM. but after finding out about the LB product (from the 'net. i'm not so dumb to find out from the people selling it-sure they say good la!) i saw that it had a good function and therefore a viable market, so i decided to join as count with my sis. i couldn't do this business with a clear conscience otherwise.

3 1/2 years later, have i made my millions? not yet.
do i use DCHL's products? yes
Has it helped me? yes, and my wife, and my 4 yr old daughter, and my extended family
have i made my investment back? yes.
have people bought products from me? yes.
has it helped them? yes.
do i have downlines? yes.
anyone joined as count? yes.
have they made money? yes.
have people bought products from them? yes.
has it helped them? yes.

As you can see, I have good reason to believe that this is a viable business-from theory and practical experience.

it's sad that the image of an 100plus yr old product like LB suffers under the greedy shenanigans of a few. And even more sad that these people hv generated so much ill-will that it’s making life difficult for people like me who are still trying to make an honest living in LB.

i myself always say: whatever you do, don't do it just because of money. because if money is the only motivation, when you have not enough, you'll quit. when you have made enough, you will also leave.

my own sis left her group, including me, high and dry after she got tired of the game and quit.

so how do i react? i could hv quit and blame my upline and the co. it's perfectly natural! But I decided to go on because I knew I had a viable product. I committed not to abandon my team. I didn’t want anyone else to experience what I went through.

It’s been a long journey. And when some of my team members quit or don’t fulfill their responsibilities to their downlines, I and my uplines pick up for them. Eg. I have one person in outstation who joined in this year. She’s my 5th generation downline. In DCHL’s plan, I make 1% of her sales. How much sales has she generated so far? ZERO! But my upline and i have been making regular trips down south to support her. Each trip costs Rm200-300 per person at least. Rough estimate-I would have personally spent more than RM4 K so far. What have her 4 generation uplines done for her? Almost nothing!

She carries a lot of disappointment because of her upline’s irresponsibility and wanted to quit. i had so many reasons not to help her-I only make 1% from her sales, it’s so far to travel, I hv to spend so much money with no promise of return, it’s not my responsibility (her direct upline should be responsible), etc. most ppl will look at the plus and minus and make the natural decision: it’s not worth it! But we are still committed to her success because we can see the genuine desire in her.

MLM is a people business. We talk to ppl, solve ppl problems (personal relationship problems too sometimes!) It’s a difficult business where not many ppl will survive because not many ppl are willing to sacrifice so much of themselves to help other ppl.

But a lot of ppl will TRY MLM cos they are attracted by the promise of easy money by unscrupulous uplines. Make no mistake-this promise is not exclusive to LB. many other MLMers in other companies make the same promises.

I guess in LB’s case, money came fast and furious for some ppl. they never developed the discipline or ppl skills required to really succeed in the MLM industry. Without these skills, and without knowledge of the products they represent, plus their arrogance from getting fast & easy money & “success”, contributed to the bad image we are suffering now. You may be glad to know that many of these ppl have already left the biz or are struggling. As the saying goes “if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”

the backlash that results from the action of these ppl is understandable. But it’s also hurting the rest of us who are trying to build this biz with integrity.

here's my humble suggestion: would it be better to focus on getting rid of the problem ppl instead of crusading to bring down the whole company? Some of us are really innocent and have a real passion for a product that in our experience obviously works.

Certainly it will be more constructive to educate ppl how to identify and avoid unscrupulous ppl and how to identify sincere ppl and give them a chance to be heard. That way, me and my family would have a fair chance to make a living in this business that we love.

8:12 AM  
Anonymous cheez said...

all these posts about DCHL/LB/SYN makes for interesting reading. certainly there's a lot of passionate feelings involved.

in most anti-LB postings, i find a common theme: ppl got cheated cos LB members recruit based on greed.

let me state clearly that i 100% SUPPORT this statement!

but then, it's a fact of life that like attracts like. greedy ppl will attract and recruit greedy ppl and the cycle goes on until one day it collapses, because greed can never be the basis for any kind of success in life at all.

now my LB story...

my sis dragged me along with her to see the LB marketing plan in 2003. i was reluctant cos i was not interested in MLM. but after finding out about the LB product (from the 'net. i'm not so dumb to find out from the people selling it-sure they say good la!) i saw that it had a good function and therefore a viable market, so i decided to join as count with my sis. i couldn't do this business with a clear conscience otherwise.

3 1/2 years later, have i made my millions? not yet.
do i use DCHL's products? yes
Has it helped me? yes, and my wife, and my 4 yr old daughter, and my extended family
have i made my investment back? yes.
have people bought products from me? yes.
has it helped them? yes.
do i have downlines? yes.
anyone joined as count? yes.
have they made money? yes.
have people bought products from them? yes.
has it helped them? yes.

As you can see, I have good reason to believe that this is a viable business-from theory and practical experience.

it's sad that the image of an 100plus yr old product like LB suffers under the greedy shenanigans of a few. And even more sad that these people hv generated so much ill-will that it’s making life difficult for people like me who are still trying to make an honest living in LB.

i myself always say: whatever you do, don't do it just because of money. because if money is the only motivation, when you have not enough, you'll quit. when you have made enough, you will also leave.

my own sis left her group, including me, high and dry after she got tired of the game and quit.

so how do i react? i could hv quit and blame my upline and the co. it's perfectly natural! But I decided to go on because I knew I had a viable product. I committed not to abandon my team. I didn’t want anyone else to experience what I went through.

It’s been a long journey. And when some of my team members quit or don’t fulfill their responsibilities to their downlines, I and my uplines pick up for them. Eg. I have one person in outstation who joined in this year. She’s my 5th generation downline. In DCHL’s plan, I make 1% of her sales. How much sales has she generated so far? ZERO! But my upline and i have been making regular trips down south to support her. Each trip costs Rm200-300 per person at least. Rough estimate-I would have personally spent more than RM4 K so far. What have her 4 generation uplines done for her? Almost nothing!

She carries a lot of disappointment because of her upline’s irresponsibility and wanted to quit. i had so many reasons not to help her-I only make 1% from her sales, it’s so far to travel, I hv to spend so much money with no promise of return, it’s not my responsibility (her direct upline should be responsible), etc. most ppl will look at the plus and minus and make the natural decision: it’s not worth it! But we are still committed to her success because we can see the genuine desire in her.

MLM is a people business. We talk to ppl, solve ppl problems (personal relationship problems too sometimes!) It’s a difficult business where not many ppl will survive because not many ppl are willing to sacrifice so much of themselves to help other ppl.

But a lot of ppl will TRY MLM cos they are attracted by the promise of easy money by unscrupulous uplines. Make no mistake-this promise is not exclusive to LB. many other MLMers in other companies make the same promises.

I guess in LB’s case, money came fast and furious for some ppl. they never developed the discipline or ppl skills required to really succeed in the MLM industry. Without these skills, and without knowledge of the products they represent, plus their arrogance from getting fast & easy money & “success”, contributed to the bad image we are suffering now. You may be glad to know that many of these ppl have already left the biz or are struggling. As the saying goes “if you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.”

the backlash that results from the action of these ppl is understandable. But it’s also hurting the rest of us who are trying to build this biz with integrity.

here's my humble suggestion: would it be better to focus on getting rid of the problem ppl instead of crusading to bring down the whole company? Some of us are really innocent and have a real passion for a product that in our experience obviously works.

Certainly it will be more constructive to educate ppl how to identify and avoid unscrupulous ppl and how to identify sincere ppl and give them a chance to be heard. That way, me and my family would have a fair chance to make a living in this business that we love.

8:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesnt work and your company going down fucking soon .

6:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Suck it Lampa Berger, scammer who cheat naive ppl money !
Join la those naive ppl, they are money sucker who will suck off all your saving !

11:00 AM  

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