We have seen too much trouble caused by DCHL distributing Lampe Berger in Malaysia. It's time to hit back at this unethical MLM network marketing business pyramid plan.
Hot: DCHL Lampe Berger Marketing Plan Slides
Just got this from a friend, it's the latest marketing plan from DCHL Lampe Berger. Check it out.
If this is your first time hearing this business, and somebody want to drag you to HLA, don't need to go, just see this power point presentation.
You can really see, how this con scheme really works. It does pay well, but lots of people will get burn.
The link:
DCHL FILE
posted by Steven Yip at 9:11 AM
128 Comments:
steven yip. I salute you! you're seriously damn PRO, managed to infiltrate their network. Good job! Another blow to DCHL network, their days are numbered.
Those college students must be really gullible to believe that they can get 5 to 7 digit income every month..Yes, its completely possible they might get a couple thousand a month, but the question is whether it maintains that way for the following months to come? Many college students are lured and mislead into believing that the 5 digit income can be achieved monthly (which is obviously NOT)
So what if they get 5k-10k in one month and the next month they get nothing? And with that little sum they get, they are pressured by uplines to use them to buy BMW which they cant maintain..
You see, its obvious that their marketing plan is flawed as it revolves around recruiting only. When the recruiting stops, income stops. And people who pay 30k (now 45k) to cut count now do what with their mountains of stock you showed? Drink the lamp refills?
And what kind of sales person can generate a sales volume of RM468750(Marquis), RM5Mil(Duke), RM50Mil(ArchDuke) & RM100Mil(Queen Elizabeth maybe?) consistently every month? Many companies don't even come close to RM5Mil sales a month.
Maybe LB仔 can. lolz.
thank you so much
it will be best if someone out there can record they OPP, NDO, and others seminars.. so that we will know how they wash others mind...
Good job steven. Now i'm starting another round of mass e-mailing hehe.
Hi all,
This file is sent by someone else. You should all thank him.
But I can't named him.
Cheers
According to LB Marketing Plan, by the 32th month, the total member already exceed the total number of human on earth. But how come after DCHL operates for more than 6 years, there are still so many people outside DCHL? This is a strong prove that DCHL marketting plan is flawed, misleading and destined to be fail.
Month 1: 2 ( 1 new)
Month 2: 4 ( 2 new)
Month 3: 8 ( 4 new)
Month 4: 16 ( 8 new)
Month 5: 32 ( 16 new)
Month 6: 64 ( 32 new)
Month 7: 127 ( 63 new)
Month 8: 252 (125 new)
Month 9: 500 (248 new)
Month 10: 992 (492 new)
Month 11: 1,968 (976 new)
Month 12: 3,904 ( 1,936 new)
Month 13: 7,744 ( 3,840 new)
Month 14: 15,366 ( 7,622 new)
Month 15: 29,652 ( 14,286 new)
Month 16: 59,720 ( 30,068 new)
Month 17: 119,556 ( 59,836 new)
Month 18: 238,628 ( 119,072 new)
Month 19: 476,772 ( 238,144 new)
Month 20: 953,060 ( 476,288 new)
Month 21: 1,905,636 ( 952,576 new)
Month 22: 3,810,788 ( 1,905,152 new)
Month 23: 7,621,092 ( 3,810,304 new)
Month 24: 15,241,700 ( 7,620,608 new)
Month 25: 30,482,916 ( 15,241,216 new)
Month 26: 60,965,348 ( 30,482,432 new)
Month 27: 121,930,212 ( 60,964,864 new)
Month 28: 378,077,668 ( 256,147,456 new)
Month 29: 890,372,580 ( 512,294,912 new)
Month 30: 1,914,962,404 (1,024,589,824 new)
Month 31: 3,964,142,052 (2,049,179,648 new)
Month 32: 8,062,501,348 (4,098,359,296 new)
If you show this 32 months chart to LB chai, they will tell you "Don't worry, when earth already saturated, we can explore to Moon, Mars, Jupiter, Venus, etc. Even if Solar System saturated, we can explore to other Star System right? And you know there is UNLIMITED Star System in the Universe right? So the NETWORK is UNLIMITED and UNSTOPABLE!!"
The 18th slide is the funniest out of all slides. "NETWORK INCOME, CAN IT STOP?" The answer is "ONLY IF THERE IS UNLIMITED POPULATION IN THE WORLD."
And according to the 32 months chart, the so called NETWORK INCOME will stop at the 32th month. And remember, 32 months is MAXIMUM and IMPOSSIBLE to reach. You think those people in poor countries will afford it? NO! So the market size reduce tremendously to I think 1 billion. And inside 1 billion, let say 80% is smart people, then of market size fall again to 200 million only. According to the chart, the system will break at the 28th month.
Not only that, 1 billion of people is poor people. How many people in this world is below 18 years old and still a minor, i guess around 20%, therefore, you have to minus another 2billions. Others limitation is how many countries that allowed this lamp to be sold via pyramid scheme, not many, I guess only around 7 countries from 190+ countries in the world, then you need to minus again. Then you practically you could only explore people from Malaysia due to location, etc. Then in Malaysia, there is only around 25 mil of people, around 33% minor (underage people), left 16 mil. Due to location and accessability, take out people from Sabah and Sarawak, perhaps left around 12 mil people to play with. Minus those poor people whose income less than RM 1000, perhaps left around 9 mil for you to play with. Later you will find out that certain states in Malaysia is difficult to access such as Terengganu, Kelantan. Then left around 7 mil. Say in this 7 mil of people, 50% against pyramid scheme, left around 3.5 mil people. After that, you will need to take out people from rural areas or kampung area as to easy to access them, and you have to minus people who is from the same family like parents and sons, etc. probably you will only have 1 mil people to access.
If all these 1 mil people join, the scheme will still die at their 22 months cause after that no more recruitment, the pyramid scheme will die by itsel.f
SYN is going to revive their image and business thru IME Century Party occupying the whole Sentosa in Singapore on the first weekend of July.This announcement has been made a couple of months ago while tickets are selling at a very expensive price(but still members are dying to go and even sponsor their newbees to go). Heard that Troops of members and their families will be transported there by luxury big buses(NLP technic),VIP arrive by Helicopes like donald trumps (NLP), Uplines and their BMWs and Ferraris(NLP),Banners along the roads (Like the Nam conference)(NLP), Free Pouring of diamond beer (NLP) and lots more of NLP technics will be used to RE-BRAIN WASH the members and to show to the singaporeans and also members from many more countries that SYN is on top of the world(illusion)!
This could be a MASS BRAIN WASH activity like giving high doses of candy bars(paid by participants themselves) to their members as a battery charger to stay "positive" with SYN i believe. whata F...
Impressive show if it were to happen..
Sigh.. more people in la la land..
Or stay longer in la la land...
according to my LB frens, they r taregeting on east msia market now. they organize seminar in sibu, kk, and fly over every month. let's see how the scam can turn over the borneo island
The slides were authored by a certain Reggie Ng. Who is he? :)
if they occupy the whole Sentosa Island that would be impossible. Put it this way, even Zouk Fest only occupies Siloso Beach. LB has their own website for East Malaysia as well, you can google it up online. I would like to question, it is quite impossible to put so many transport vehicles in Sentosa Island, and we all know how strict is Singapore's regulatory Board. Could the news be abit too extreme? Their members should be ashame if their helicopters doesnt arrive. According to Singapore's MLM forum,
"if SYN care for their poorer members why dont they just rent the whole MRT to bring them there"
Bel Air which is similar to LB has cause a havock in Singapore and plenty of people are aware. The methods they use are extreme such as forcing members to purchase cars and LV/Prada bags. BA has been operating just for a few years in Singapore, people have complaint to the Singaporean press as well. All now we can do is wait and see what happens
When I first saw their marketing scheme, the first thing that went to mind was "OMG this is a frickin' pyramid scheme!!!"
I told my friend but she would hear no talk about it.
Damn you SYNNERS all to hell!!!!
besides mass emailing, is there any other ways to speed up the awareness thing to the public cuz i supposed tons of ppl do not read news paper and check email only..
especially for places like sabah,jb,penang..
i still havent received a single email abt it neither.
anyone has any contact list or email address for the existing members?
reggie ng is one of the ex-marquis in LB. a top guy, and once signed up a marquis from Indonesia. this indonesian business man buys up the marquis position and ship all the stock to China for his housing project.
reggie ng no more in LB now that he realised the scam of LB. heard he is in another company. a better one.
like the movie god father where at the back of the church kept machine guns!
I see they have change the marketing plan from a few months back..
Well.. same plan actually.. just different strategies..
Not just the one per month thingy.. that is just to make it more believable.
Its the under each person there is 6 person instead of five..
I can just imagine the persuassion.. Just give it a try.. just 2345k.. for 2345 is a chance for you to earn a million..
Wake up la..
These people can not see that the company gain so much. At least other mlm which has a binary tree, one left and right. So the person chain's is not broken and gets some income. It does not matter how the people are stack, it can still grow.
Just imagine if you can only find two prospects or 3 but no more, and it goes on an on. The tree grows for the company and income for the company.
Oh, im stuck, I ll pay for baron.
Hey people, if you pay up front they paying u comission using your own money.
I can do that.. you pay me 30k la..
i ll pay u commission if u sell..
if u sell, i use ur own money to pay u back.
If you can not sell, you did not work hard enuf.
So why not I make a scheme base on future projections, a scheme where if u sell in the future, i give u commision for sales. So i make profit. But now, I take ur money first. Your investment first. Also this scheme expands like a pryamid, meaning only a few would make money, the rest lose.
What la, the moment you see the prymaid, dun even bother.
If they present to you a scheme that looks like can make money. Look at the rotation, and the percentage. You are paying them up front.
Pryamid tree==BAD
Don't any of you understand that?
on the funnier side of things,
wonder why DCHL chose menara HLA as their headquater???
may be because the roof of menara HLA is a GIANT PYRAMID...
hahaha...
i was bring to the LB HQ few days ago.. (which is actually being cheated by a friend) after listening to the so called partner of my friend about the plan, they keep asking if i'm interested. (they will try their best to "brainwash" u, thank god i've a really strong mind ;p) to be honest, i feel like this is sort of cheating money from friends!! as we need to recruit 5 people and earn back the money we paid out to be a franchice of RM 2345 (which is not a small amount of monet). what on earth!! this is not a good way of being rich!
i really respect all of you here, to tell the world wat is actually happening! thank god~
45k for count now ......OMG
another clarifition from syn abt the sun news to covering up. whata SOP!standard operational procedure.
Kiwi,
What kind of approach did they use?
Izzit more like do you want to give it a try approach, its a good chance thingy?
Before its always the technic of making you feel bad about the normals of working life, and with that arrogant air of (you do not know what you are missing) approach..
it never stops n it'll never end.. thy just hv to see the prob.. it is only an estimation tht u'll get tht many ppl to join.. but how many will?
by paying up rm45, you're just creating a virtual network which doesnt exist until you really find another 5 victims under you. You need alot of people under you in order just to break even, remember the commision is only 4% a downline.
Dexter,
erm...ya! just 5 people definitely will not recover the RM 2345, so we'll have to keep on going to cheat more people. this is not good!! yea..it's a sin!!
but this is still spreading, as all the youngsters there thought they r doing the right thing. OMG~
Dan,
ya...can say so, they ask like if you have the money will u try? they actually talk to me bout the plan, take me to have a "tour" in that HLA building ( to show how great the company is doing, how strong the company is.. ) and then they keep intorducing me to the people there saying, this one is degree holder, that one is graduate from wat uni....etc.
but they all r just telling me the same thing, like: [oh, i join because i can see there is value in future. it's worth it!] [no point working so hard, OT everday but earning low income] [here's the chance for u, if u join LB then u'll be rich in a short period with no OT, no fixed cost (no need to pay for electricity & water bill...bla bla... all nonsense), flexible time...]
i think they r just wasting my time lo... the worst thing is, they bring me there for about 3 hours but didn't even offer me a drink or someting ( at least a cup of sky juice la, cos i was really thristy that time ) :( so stingy!!!
lanpa burger ppl are like tat 1,bring u to see their company and "mai fa chan fa hiong"!
I been there twice,listen how they approach me,they ignore the product details,they always focusing on marketing plan which is the "plan" as seen on the slides!
last week my friend invite me go to a seminar talk about 'your life',i thought that is a normal talk,but when i just reach infront the HLA building,i was thinking,why the people there wearing same style uniform,when i walk in to the building the strong smell really going to make me feel want to 'pengsan' already,they really wash ppl mind,i nearly kena.after my friend upline talk to me,he remind me not to tell any body before i start the business.so i stil cant trust what they had told me,cause they have only tell me about the plan,but not the product.the next day,i started to ask ppl about LB,i m shock when they told me about LB,after i view this web,from my heart i really sympathy with my friend,cause of this business he bought a car and now he is stil a student and for sure he'll spend a lot time at HLA.the burden for a college student with a car,i really can't imagine what'll happen to him in future.......
unless he really hard working.....
ya.. they really "mai fa chan fa hiong" lo! haha.. n say, u dun tell people bout the plan first cos u didnt really understand the whole plan yet. if u tell the others they'll scared n run away from u cos u cannot convinve ppl ( which i guess they mean cannot brainwash ppl)
actually i have this friend, he joined and put in a lot of money. after bout half a year, he bought a BMW but now i heard that he has problem on paying the HP instalment lo.. but he still "sei chang" said he's glad he've been Hong Kong, S'pore...bcos of LB like want to "sai meng" lo! beh tahan la!!
heard that there will be no more biz preview by steven yeam. izit true?
Steven yeam want to run away with All the money already.wait and see haha
45k tectic is to plow as many ppl to join in as count as possible!thats why last months sales is good! I DOUBT THIS MONTH!steven yeam is running away with the money liao!
Yeah,...the smell inside their building sumtimes also can make ppl pengsan as well,if u really can't stand for it.
After that they will bring u a room where got many small table n mini chairs and show u the marketing plan,and their final word tell u is this:
"after u go back home,pls dun ask any1 about this business,cos they dun know at all,if u still got any doubt pls ask us now,dun ask anyone except us"
if u say "no question" they will say this:
"so,since u have no question...I believe this is a VERY GOOD plan rite? (then they bring u a form) so I think u would like to sign up now and to take the step to achieve this rite? (he point the highest pangkat and the estimated earning to u)
if u say u dun 1 to sign up and 1 2 cosidered 1st,they will say this:
"WHat makes u dun 1 2 join now since u say u have no question,if u still have doubts,just ask us.Do u have any doubts? what makes u dun1 to join since is a good opportunity?If u dun1 to join now,then u might "miss this" (point the pangkat and the estimated earning again) Ur "good fren" has bring u here and intro u an opportunity and I think he/she won't lie 2u rite? Since both of u are very good frens.What makes u dun trust him/her?"
Normally,the person who invite u just bring u walk into their building then he/she let the upline to do the brainwash job.the "introducer" just quiet only.
Well,...since the upline end his intro about this business...I also got a bit "boh song" with him as well cos he keep pushing and dun1 ppl to thing twice and he also bring all his UM fren to push me (my fren who bring me to HLA is a UM student as well)
Imagine,got around 15 UM student also failed to brainwah me...I just say 1 word only "Can u give me ur official website to do research if u dun mind" so that I can get more info and I remember wat "he" (upline saying about this business) if ur business is tat good,why dun let me go home and search thru ur official site? dun tell me ur official site info is totally different from what "he" say?"
finally...he stop...but keep sms me after tat nite and call me as well.I just ifnore his call.
B4 I been to their HLA building,I already know thru LYN forum tat is a scam already.I just would like to visit n see how "cult" are they only.
remember,if sum1 ask u yumcha or hang kai at KLCC,just beware...they will end up bring u to HLA building (a short cut thru Aquaria KLCC) When u ask him/her to change other location,he/she will say cannot la...KLCC better la...and all those bullshit.
hey guess what guys? The chairs and tables arent for free! My friend's friend whois a member told her that it is for rent rm100 one day, so either the upline or downline will rent one table for the whole day. This is probably one of the ways the highest ranking people get their incomes as well.
WTF? DCHL/SYN also can't buy their tables and chairs as their assets? C'mon...this is very upset man! Very "chit tor" lo....
If u say the office lot is rented I believe...even the chairs also 1 2 rent ar? What the heck man!
How come the slide in JPG format, how to see the rest of the slides??
Talk about Renting Tables...
I paid MYR 300 just for the rental of tables that will last me 3 months.
So yeah, MYR 100 per month.
It is a sharing between all my sidelines and uplines to use it as an "OPEN CASE" table.
Reason why we need to pay?
Because, there will be alot of people fighting to use the tables. Sometimes there wouldn't be enough tables to be used. If we rent, we can share it amongs our team who paid for THAT table. And we need to tell in advance if we need to use it or not, at what time and what day.
Reason why need to pay "2"?
It is a way to share the rental between the users. SYN rented the whole lot of level 4. (if i am not wrong). A new place just for sharing and "OPEN CASE".
What is OPEN CASE?
It means, sharing with you about the marketing plan. TO tell you about the investment scheme. To lure you into the business tactic.
SO?
I find it rather amusing, and at the same time, rather more than a daylight roberry. It only hit my sense later on after I paid... but well, so let's just say I donated to the poor. (who can't even pay for their own rental)
Donating to the coffers of the cult of SYN is not donating to the poor.
i am getting more and more angry about the way SYN conducted the whole thing.
This is my first time knowing that they even charge for the tables!common! Now i see the whole thing, they charge every single thing:the scam biz for 2k or 30k(most), NDO for rm100, business preview or what ever business seminar la also charge, the century party also charge, no drinks so more for prospects. and now i know they even rent the tables ah. this is really intolerable d!really a money sucker! i really angry about the SYNers who are so stupid and ignorant that SYN is sucking their money also blur blur dont know, really feel hopeless and want to strangle them d!!!!!
Beh Tahan liao!!!
i'm soooo fed up with all these shits.. i mean this website..
pls dont just anti here anti there ok? go do some actions.. go report to whoever that has power to suspend this company..
it's very funny with all the so called "tricks" and "brain washed technics".. i mean.. even if u do sales of any products or watever credit cards even other mlm companies also have their own "technics" to approach ppl right?? have u ever read about the book written by successful ppl in bookstore?? they have their own technics to be successful right?? if u all know how to be success then nobody will have to buy their books already because everyone has already successed..
u know steven yeam earn how much how much every months.. have u ever wonder how difficult and pathetic before he got success in this business?? behind every successful ppl also have their own journey.. or do u think to be success is just plain of luck??
syn just build up a network to duplicate his successful system to everyone under him.. whether ppl can successfully follow his system or not varies ok? it all depends on how that person do, not this company or products are bad or watever lying ppl... if the products are really so dangerous, have u ever asked about ppl that already used this products for years?? why havn't they die from using this product? or u wan to say that day will come? then i can tell u will die too because u drive everyday on the road..
well, you are fed up..that's ok.
My family lost 30k on this business. I am thousands times more fed up from you.
This is action..
Creating awareness..
Generally people do not like to be bothered la. Like asking for money.
People are polite enough not to say to your face what the think about the business. So they say it here. So you when a prospect say they 'want to think', or say 'no'. and if you push..
The example of their thoughts are here. They hate it.
to steven yip:
i wonder how did u lose ur 30k as u still hv 37500 stock with u either for u to sell it door to door or put it at ur own shop to sell or consume by urself..
not to mention about earning money from this biz first.. some ppl would spend 30k just to use the products cuz it does help them.. if the products really harmful for human it wont be sell for so many years..
to nightlord:
hmm maybe u need to do more research abt what is mlm.. it's another form of future business.. compare to tradisional biz.. u have to fork out ur capital to buy stock too.. did u lose money?
hmm.. i'm not quite sure whether did someone ask u to lie on the situation cuz i believe there would always be some ppl who are doing something wrong. u should report them to upline marquis or duke perhaps?
To anon,
it's easier for you to talk because it's not you or your loved ones who loses money. My friend made his mom to refinance her home for the sake of getting 30k (not rupiah, mind you) in order to invest in his so-called prospective business. He experienced sudden personality change and he is no longer the person I once knew. All I hope is for him to wake up from his false dream before he starts earning back his lost money at the expense of his potential victims which comprises mostly of his friends and family.
and please download this e-book.
http://www.merchantsofdeception.com
Even an established MLM company can be involved in mass-fraud scam that operates in a cultist manner.
cigarettes are harmful to humans and it's been selling for many centuries.
And by the way, nightlord is not talking about MLM in general, he's talking about LB scam.
steven, for the benefit for all, can you scan SYN's reply in the Sun that some forumers are talking about.
Thanks
-preacher-
they(Uplines) are now trying to suck as much money as possible from the innocents b4 they go down.they just dont care if the downlines are doing well even they act like they care (of course la a show worth acting ma for his own benefit)So the timing now is critical, awareness need to be strengthen!
conning ppl to be success is the most cruel thing of all!
I am no supporter of LB business, but I find some of post on their payout is not true.
Base on what I know from attending the events. If you invest 38%(RM45K) count position. You will received RM45K of LB products but enjoy 20% off. Following month, the company will rebate another 9%.
The benefit of count is you enjoyed 38% off the retail price of company product and maintenance fee. There will be 6 generation count bonus meaning if any of your direct downline has count you will get the geration bonus of 5%(1st gen), 3%, 2%, 1.5% 1%, 1%(6th gen) accordinly.
Maintenance is optional depending how much sales you make in that month.
If your 5 direct downline has count, baron or franchise. the payout is
Per count earn approx RM2000++, upload of RM2345 of your goods to him/her.
Per Baron approx RM1000++, upload RM2345 of your goods to him/her
Per franchisee, earn abt RM300++, upload RM2345 of your goods to him/her
I wonder why those syner (sinner) still have time to read this forum and reply to this forum. Probably they got no prospect to con and con here easier.
I am also feel funny if that syner (sinner) feel fed up on this website, then don't come here to read anything. They come here read really mean that they are too free and no prospect to con.
this is obviously a professional "LOW CHIN".
no differnt from cepat untung scheme.
to nightlord:
i believe SYN members are more than u can imagine.. ofcourse many of them success, many of them trying to get success(on the way and they've already earned back their capital) and those who failed or so called give up. if u dunno where ur future income comes from by building ur own network of syn it's really like ur so call ponzi scheme.. amway has survived for 30 years in malaysia and can u say it has no more market anymore?to the presentation u mentioned mayb the presenter oni focus on marketing plan because most businessman will more focus on how to earn money instead of focusing the product..
well, if u wouldn't believe mlm wil be the hot future kind of business it's ok.. time will tell.. till then everyone might be involved in mlm.. ofcoz i didn't mean the traditional biz will bankrupt, just difficult to earn big money unless it's big enough. din't u realize many small company being "consume" by big company group nowadays?
MLM already there for a few decades but why until today I cannot see a company doing MLM apprear in Fortune 500 list?
Microsoft, Dell, Intel, Toyota, Honda, Nokia, IKEA, Samsung, Hyundai, Sony, Apple, etc. These companies sell billions dollars of goods every quarters, but how come there is no shadow of MLM inside?
If MLM so good, why those Fortune 500 companies never apply to their business model? Don't tell me all Fortune 500 companies are stupid okay?
Below is the MLM definition extracted from Wikipedia:
In a typical multi-level marketing or network marketing arrangement, individuals associate with a parent company as an independent contractor and are compensated based on their sales of products or service, as well as the sales achieved by those they bring into the business.
In a legitimate MLM company, commissions are earned only on sales of the company's products. No money may be earned from recruiting alone ("sign-up fees"). Some, less legitimate, companies produce revenues primarily by attracting new participants or selling them marketing services, as opposed to selling actual products. One must analyze the compensation plan to determine whether participants are paid from actual sales to customers and not from new-recruit bonuses or business support sales.
Multi-level marketing has a recognized image problem due to the fact that it is often difficult to distinguish legitimate MLMs from illegal scams such as pyramid or Ponzi schemes. MLM businesses do operate legitimately in all 50 U.S. states and more than 100 other countries, and new businesses may use terms like "affiliate marketing" or "home-based business franchising". However, many pyramid schemes try to present themselves as legitimate MLM businesses.
Fraudulent MLM schemes can usually be identified by high entrance fees or requirements to purchase expensive inventories. They often collapse quickly when the merchandise cannot be resold, leaving all but those at the top of the pyramid with financial losses.
The Federal Trade Commission advises that multi-level marketing organizations with greater incentives for recruitment than product sales are to be viewed skeptically.
I'm with nightlord and anthraxxxx here. My beef is also with SYN and not MLM.
If SYN practiced a legit MLM I would not even bother posting here.
dear anonymous,
Lampe Berger is not MLM, is a Pyramid scheme. PLS NEVER compare Amway with LB coz is just plain silly.
LB fits perfectly in a Pyramid shceme's practices. tell me is not true?
I will say this again, Pyramid scheme's simplest definition is at such, "an organization that uses a product to overshadow their main intention which is to recruit"
what are you guys in LB doing? recruit or selling products?
from wikipedia,
In a legitimate MLM company, commissions are earned only on sales of the company's products. No money may be earned from recruiting alone ("sign-up fees").
"The Federal Trade Commission advises that multi-level marketing organizations with greater incentives for recruitment than product sales are to be viewed skeptically"
This is a very substantial point! SYN is exactly the above mention thing going on. The current LB members should realize this and wake up!So far no one tell them abt this and they should start pondering the ethicness of this business!
nightlord antraxxx and tehpowah,...u all forget me ler...I'm ANTI DCHL/SYN/LB as well!
nightlord: may i know ru former SYN member as well?Cos u seems know a lot of thing behind SYN.I only just visit twice to their place but I nvr join them,cos the moment they bring to to the meeting room...I found out sumthing is fishy already!
bernand7, how can i forget you? you are one of the powerful voices in LYN forum after all haha :D
Let us fight together and exterminate this social plague once and for all.
Lol! Sorry B3nard7, it's just that when people try to prove that SYN is practicing MLM makes me so angry!
Sorry guy!
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兩 名 青 年 投 身 香 薰 產 品 傳 銷 業 後 ， 因 「 碌 爆 卡 」 和 借 錢 入 貨 致 無 力 還 債 ， 竟 在 街 上 「 打 盲 毛 」 隨 便 擄 拐 一 名 男 童 ， 將 他 禁 錮 於 偏 僻 郊 區 流 動 公 廁 內 ， 再 向 對 方 父 母 勒 贖 卅 萬 元 。 醒 目 男 童 度 過 驚 險 十 一 小 時 ， 趁 綁 匪 往 領 取 贖 款 時 自 行 鬆 綁 逃 脫 ， 及 協 助 警 方 拘 捕 綁 匪 。 涉 案 兩 青 年 昨 日 在 高 院 認 罪 ， 法 官 坦 言 即 使 非 大 富 之 家 的 子 女 也 有 機 會 遭 人 綁 架 ， 而 為 人 父 母 者 則 無 可 能 廿 四 小 時 看 管 子 女 ， 故 必 須 判 以 重 刑 以 阻 嚇 同 類 罪 行 ， 重 判 兩 人 各 入 獄 九 年 。
藉 問 路 騙 釣 具 店 少 東 上 車
法 官 嚴 斥 兩 名 被 告 的 行 為 令 人 髮 指 和 厭 惡 ， 他 們 令 到 事 主 及 其 父 母 飽 受 一 整 日 惶 恐 和 折 磨 ， 事 主 在 事 件 中 亦 受 輕 傷 ， 幸 好 他 在 被 告 收 到 贖 金 前 ， 已 自 行 逃 離 魔 掌 。 法 官 認 為 兩 名 被 告 沒 有 前 科 兼 且 來 自 良 好 背 景 家 庭 ， 更 反 映 出 他 們 的 冷 血 和 所 犯 罪 行 之 嚴 重 性 ， 唯 一 的 求 情 因 素 是 他 們 認 罪 和 與 警 方 合 作 。
廿 三 歲 首 被 告 李 健 華 及 廿 四 歲 次 被 告 方 明 健 ， 昨 承 認 一 項 綁 架 罪 名 。 涉 案 肉 參 （ 下 稱 事 主 ） 是 一 名 十 二 歲 中 一 男 生 ， 其 父 經 營 釣 魚 用 具 店 ， 事 主 與 父 母 及 姊 一 家 四 口 住 在 大 埔 廣 福 。 案 情 顯 示 ， 去 年 十 一 月 九 日 ， 事 主 上 學 途 經 一 個 露 天 停 車 場 時 ， 首 被 告 藉 詞 問 路 ， 並 表 示 如 事 主 代 為 引 路 可 用 車 載 他 上 學 ， 事 主 不 虞 有 詐 ， 隨 首 被 告 上 了 一 輛 輕 型 貨 車 ， 而 次 被 告 即 時 駕 車 駛 往 錦 山 荒 廢 路 段 停 車 。
之 後 兩 名 被 告 在 車 上 恐 嚇 事 主 ， 用 膠 手 銬 綑 綁 他 雙 手 、 再 用 膠 紙 封 他 眼 、 口 和 鼻 ； 事 主 表 示 無 法 呼 吸 ， 被 告 便 在 膠 紙 上 穿 了 一 孔 。 事 主 乘 機 反 抗 ， 但 遭 被 告 用 刀 指 其 頸 威 嚇 要 他 收 聲 ， 事 主 遂 停 止 反 抗 。
綑 綁 毆 事 主 藏 流 動 公 廁 內
兩 被 告 再 用 膠 線 綑 綁 事 主 雙 腿 ， 並 從 事 主 書 包 內 的 學 生 手 冊 中 獲 得 其 父 母 聯 絡 電 話 ， 兩 人 遂 用 變 聲 器 致 電 事 主 父 母 勒 索 卅 萬 元 贖 金 ， 惟 其 家 人 暗 中 報 警 。 兩 被 告 與 事 主 家 人 討 價 還 價 後 ， 將 贖 金 減 至 十 萬 元 ， 並 指 示 事 主 父 親 往 大 埔 新 達 廣 場 等 待 進 一 步 指 示 。
兩 被 告 跟 將 事 主 藏 於 烏 蛟 騰 停 車 場 一 個 流 動 公 廁 內 ， 並 在 廁 門 外 放 置 木 條 鎖 門 。 事 主 趁 兩 被 告 離 開 時 自 行 鬆 綁 和 強 行 開 門 逃 走 ， 獲 兩 名 途 人 協 助 下 報 警 ， 警 方 按 事 主 提 供 的 資 料 ， 在 南 運 路 和 泮 涌 路 交 界 拘 捕 兩 名 被 告 ， 並 在 車 上 檢 獲 變 聲 器 及 刀 。 兩 人 在 警 誡 後 承 認 犯 案 ， 首 被 告 承 認 曾 用 刀 指 嚇 和 掌 摑 事 主 ； 次 被 告 則 指 曾 拳 打 事 主 胸 口 ， 又 供 出 犯 案 所 用 車 輛 ， 乃 他 向 父 親 訛 稱 要 替 人 搬 運 傢 俬 ， 要 求 父 親 代 為 租 車 。
案 件 編 號 ： HCCC 76 / 2005
【本報訊】辯方大律師在庭上透露，兩被告多年來奉公守法，均來自背景清白的家庭，沒有不良背景和嗜好，曾經有固定職業，其中首被告更參與宣明會的助養兒童計畫，助養了一名埃塞俄比亞兒童，但自他們參與層壓式推銷後，事業陷入低潮，終淪為綁匪。
廿三歲的首被告及廿四歲次被告都在中五畢業後投入社會工作，但兩人並非同學，首被告曾任職侍應、電器技工和營業員，次被告則曾任職漫畫繪圖員、機場保安及營業員。他們於前年年底加入一間出售香薰產品的層壓式推銷公司，收入要依賴銷售業績和所招募的下線傳銷員。
律師指出，首被告任職香薰產品公司期間「碌」了五張信用卡入貨，欠債達十八萬元，及後僅能將債項減至十二萬元；次被告也「碌卡」入貨。兩被告後來招募了一些下線傳銷員，再出錢替那些傳銷員入貨。兩人及後向首被告父親的朋友借了十二萬元。
然而，兩被告一直賺不到錢，加上首被告父親的朋友上門追債，兩被告於是盡力籌錢往澳門「博一博」，結果輸了錢。兩被告自覺走投無路，決定隨便綁架一名男童，以勒索贖金還債。律師指兩名被告現時已知道自己當日不成熟和愚蠢，深感後悔，並向受害人致歉。
中國時報 / 社會綜合 / 930408 陳志賢／台北報導
喧騰一時的「薰香精油」爆炸傷人案，台北地檢署昨天偵結全案。檢方認為，國內銷售薰香精油的「柏格」公司，明知其販售的精油含有高量異丙醇，具有高燃性，佯稱可改善呼吸系統療效，並且未在包裝上明確標示，導致民眾點火使用爆炸，依常業詐欺、業務過失重傷害罪嫌起訴「柏格」公司負責人黃樹雄、總經理杜成功兩人。
被起訴的「柏格國際公司」是國內販售薰香精油的直銷業者之一，年營業額超過廿億元，亦是法國ＬＡＭＰＥＢＥＲＧＥＲ公司之總代理商，「柏格」公司負責人黃樹雄本身是法國華僑。
檢方發現，「柏格」公司的薰香精油成分中，異丙醇含量占了百分之九十以上，公司明知異丙醇係作為清潔劑使用，具有毒性，吸入人體產生刺激，會造成頭痛、噁心、嘔吐甚至死亡之結果，竟予隱匿。
檢察官起訴黃樹雄等人明知販售之「尤加利薰香精油」閃火點低，約攝氏十二度，於室溫攝氏廿七度立即著火並可能發生爆炸，竟疏未注意標示薰香精油為危險物品及不得點火使用等。
本案係一名李姓婦人在九十一年使用「柏格 」薰香精油點火，導致下肢二度燙傷，李婦幼女則受到二至三度燒傷，且傷勢達體表面積百分之卅，與吸入性燒傷合併肺水腫之重傷害，造成幼女面部傷殘，影響一生，而向檢方提起刑事告訴。
另外，檢方指出，黃樹雄等人明知其販售的薰香精油異丙醇含量高達百分之九十以上，香精油含量僅約百分之一，而異丙醇每公升市價僅約廿元，且香精油進貨價約每公升十四歐元，其餘成分則為水，每公升之成本價格僅約一百元，極為低廉。
「柏格」卻誇大以芳香療法具有改善呼吸系統疾病等療效，及使用精油過程中會產生異丙醇微氧素後與空氣中之氧分子連結成雙氧等不實效果，讓消費者誤認薰香精油使用有益健康，以一公升一千三百廿元高價出售，牟取暴利，檢方因此認定柏格公司涉及常業詐欺行為。
蘋 果 日 報 (香 港) 2006-06-07
一 家 三 口 借 27 萬 買 香 薰
搵 工 心 切 的 年 輕 人 要 小 心 墮 入 傳 銷 陷 阱 ， 消 委 會 今 年 至 今 已 接 獲 23 宗 「 雙 軌 式 傳 銷 」 投 訴 ， 其 中 一 個 案 更 涉 及 一 家 三 口 同 時 懷 疑 被 騙 ， 三 人 合 共 花 了 27 萬 元 購 買 香 薰 產 品 ， 當 中 六 成 （ 即 17 萬 元 ） 竟 是 以 高 息 向 財 務 公 司 貸 款 ， 是 消 委 會 近 兩 年 處 理 涉 款 最 大 的 雙 軌 式 傳 銷 投 訴 個 案 。
遭 收 數 公 司 滋 擾
消 委 會 投 訴 及 諮 詢 部 首 席 主 席 陳 永 佳 表 示 ， 上 月 接 獲 一 宗 雙 軌 式 傳 銷 投 訴 ， 投 訴 人 報 稱 其 父 親 、 妹 妹 及 弟 弟 懷 疑 同 時 墮 入 傳 銷 騙 局 ， 三 人 被 哄 購 買 價 值 27 萬 元 香 薰 產 品 ， 貨 品 卻 遲 遲 未 能 成 功 轉 售 ， 欠 下 巨 債 下 遂 向 消 委 會 求 助 ， 該 會 現 時 正 處 理 中 。
消 委 會 提 醒 市 民 向 傳 銷 公 司 購 買 產 品 時 ， 必 須 審 慎 考 慮 是 否 適 合 本 身 需 要 ， 不 要 為 了 購 入 大 批 貨 品 而 借 取 遠 超 負 擔 能 力 的 私 人 貸 款 。 陳 永 佳 指 曾 有 人 因 購 貨 欠 債 ， 連 累 家 人 遭 收 數 公 司 上 門 滋 擾 。
薰香精油瓶放車內 緊急煞車導致異丙醇洩漏燒掉車
2006-04-19 11:50／地方中心／台北報導
很多民眾喜歡使用精油，不過不慎卻常常爆炸釀成意外，甚至現在還傳出連愛車都會被燒掉！台北市議員李慶元19日召開記者會指出，一位張姓孕婦將號稱是「理療燈」的薰香瓶放在轎車上使用，卻在去年10月中旬，因緊急煞車，導致薰香瓶翻覆引起異丙醇外洩燃燒，使得愛車前半部幾乎焚毀。他指出，販賣薰香瓶的業者卻沒有在瓶身標示相關警語，協調後同意理賠，迄今卻一毛未付。
李慶元上午指出，去年10月18日下午，張姓孕婦開車行經中和中正路錦和公園管理室旁時，因為車輛遭中和國中林同學騎腳踏車撞擊而緊急煞車，她下車檢視對方傷勢發現無礙後，便返回車上欲離去，此時發現副駕駛旁使用中的薰香精油瓶已傾倒並起火，火勢經由異丙醇氣爆漫延至引擎蓋內多方管線遭氣體燒灼腐蝕，導致車輛內部損毀嚴重。
李慶元表示，他於今年2月中為兩造協調，發現陳情人去年在車內使用的薰香精油瓶為2002年生產，當時的說明書，並沒有對車上使用薰香精油提出警告，甚至依陳情人說法，該集團還鼓勵經銷商與消費者「帶著薰香精油瓶子走出去」，直到2004年才將說明書加入「禁止在車內使用朗普柏格（Lampe Berger）理療燈」等警語，而該集團始終未對2004年前的產品使用者提出補正或宣導，因此，初步協議亮碧思集團同意賠償包括修車費用、交通補助及精神賠償等，計57萬元，問題是，該集團至今仍藉各種理由推託一毛未付。
李慶元指出，依亮碧思集團網站對其產品柏格薰香精油的成分介紹，「異丙醇」佔總成分的90%，其餘10%為水及植物精油等，而據工研院資料顯示，異丙醇閃火點約12度，為一種可燃性液體，其對健康危害的效應，如吸入400PPM濃度下，會輕度刺激上呼吸道，高濃度下吸入會造成暈眩、運動失調等，眼睛接觸400PPM濃度下，會造成輕度刺激，而食入可能造成暈眩、腸胃疼痛等，估計人的致死劑量約為131g，且皮膚長期或頻繁接觸會造成皮膚乾燥和龜裂。
李慶元說，柏格薰香精油成分中，幾乎以異丙醇為主，依相關研究資料看來，異丙醇實在不是幫助身體健康的好東西，使用不當還有損害身體健康之慮，更何況依消防局資料，異丙醇與一般耳熟能詳的易燃危險液體，如甲醇、乙醇、丙醇等，同樣列為第四類易燃液體的酒精類，不小心與熱源接觸就有可能引起大火。
他也指出，依據衛生署資料，薰香精油在國外主要是作為「改善居家環境衛生、居家芳香劑、消除煙味」使用，顯然與市面部分業者將薰香瓶取名為「理療燈」的用途相距甚遠。所以，精油瓶除了不能放置在車內等易傾倒的場所，民眾也不應過度迷信薰香精油具有理療效果，以免危及生命、財產安全。
新聞小辭典：閃火點的意思是當環境溫度使液體表面蒸氣濃度可持續燃燒時，該一溫度稱為燃點，此溫度約較該物質之閃火點高約5～20℃。閃火點在100℃以下之物質，其燃點常與閃火點相當接近甚至相同，故在評估或表示某一物質之危險程度時，常用閃火點而較少用燃點。
兩人因串謀詐騙被判刑
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一名三十九歲女子及一名二十九歲男子因從事欺詐活動，於今日（八月二十二日）在東區裁判法院分別被判入獄及社會服務令。
案情透露，警方商業罪案調查科於二○○一年六月及二○○二年八月分別接獲六間銀行及一間財務公司投訴，指有客戶申請信用卡及貸款時，懷疑使用偽造聘用信。
商業罪案調查科經調查後，發現一間香薰傳銷公司職員，向會員提供偽造聘用信以申請銀行服務。
當這些會員成功申請信用卡或貸款後，他們需要用所得的金錢購買貨物，以便可以獲得升級及將貨物賣給低級的會員，以賺取更多的佣金。
該名三十九歲女子及二十九歲男子分別在二○○二年十月及十二月被捕，並於二○○四年八月十六日被落案控以串謀詐騙罪名。
涉及該案的集團共有七十四人被拘捕，其中三十三人被落案控以串謀行騙、供應及行使假文件罪名，而十七人已由二○○三年起在不同的法院被判刑，刑罰由罰款二千元至入獄二十四個月不等。
該名三十九歲女子及二十九歲男子今日在東區裁判法院分別被判入獄三個月及一百小時社會服務令。他們為該案件最後被判刑的被捕人士。
警察公共關係科新聞公布第七號
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二○○五年八月二十二日（星期一）
http://www.info.gov.hk/gia/general/200508/22/08220254.htm
Hi, it's me John Lim again. Just upload 5 LB news in chinese for all. Hope some one can do translation on them.
Here is the title for each news:
1. 2 youth use Credit Card to do Lampe Berger, owe a lot of money, finally go to kidnap kids. Jail 9 years.
2. Using Lampe Berger will cause health problem.
3. Whole family loan HKD270k to do Lampe Berger business, now chased by finance company everyday.
4. Put Lampe Berger in car, whole car burn.
5. Two Lampe Berger uplines help downlines create fake information to apply Credit Card, jailed.
Yes, some one proficient in chinese please translate it.
From his post.. I think nightlord is SYN member..
But is a different kind of member..
The renegade kind.. Renegade SYN..
Can be quite damaging to SYN..
what the fuck! join SYN also need to kidnap ppl's son to pay the membership fee? this shows that how "cult" is them.
They deserved to send to jail!
hey John lim, nice job.because of money, what can't they do?some gals went prostitute themsleves for LB.thats not the worst.the worst is cheat ur parent Coffin money.
檢方發現，「柏格」公司的薰香精油成分中，異丙醇含量占了百分之九十以上，公司明知異丙醇係作為清潔劑使用，具有毒性，吸入人體產生刺激，會造成頭痛、噁心、嘔吐甚至死亡之結果，竟予隱匿。
Research shown, fragrance oil produced by Lampe Berger contains more than 90% isopropylalcohol. The company clearly understand that isopropylalcohol is used to create cleaning liquid, harmful when inhale into body, will result in headache, vomit or even death, but try to hide the fact
另外，檢方指出，黃樹雄等人明知其販售的薰香精油異丙醇含量高達百分之九十以上，香精油含量僅約百分之一，而異丙醇每公升市價僅約廿元，且香精油進貨價約每公升十四歐元，其餘成分則為水，每公升之成本價格僅約一百元，極為低廉。
Wong Shu Xiong and partners clearly understand that Lampe Berger fragrance contains more than 90% isopropylalcohol, and only contain 1% fragrance oil. Isopropylalcohol is selling at HKD20 (abour RM10) per litre currently. The fragrance oil imported from European only cost Euro14 (RM65). The cost for 1 litre of Lampe Berger oil is less than HKD100 (RM50).
「柏格」卻誇大以芳香療法具有改善呼吸系統疾病等療效，及使用精油過程中會產生異丙醇微氧素後與空氣中之氧分子連結成雙氧等不實效果，讓消費者誤認薰香精油使用有益健康，以一公升一千三百廿元高價出售，牟取暴利，檢方因此認定柏格公司涉及常業詐欺行為。
Lampe Berger exeggerate the benefits of its oil, saying that inhaling the oil can improve the respiracy system and when combine with ocxigen molecule in the air will clean the air (both claims are found inaccurate) and try to sell the oil at HKD1320 (RM660) per litre, making huge profit. The suing party confirm that Lampe Berger involves in cheating consumers and offend business law.
依據衛生署資料，薰香精油在國外主要是作為「改善居家環境衛生、居家芳香劑、消除煙味」使用，顯然與市面部分業者將薰香瓶取名為「理療燈」的用途相距甚遠。
According to Taiwan Ministry of Health, fragrance oil mainly used for "Improving home environment, make the home smell better, clean smoke smell" in foreign countries, but Lampe Berger dare to name the vase as "Aroma Theraphy Lamp", which is far from the true feature.
to nightlord:
well i think u really dunno why we wan to focus on building own network.. do u noe the maintenance when u've obtained to count level? do u know where does the future income really come from in the future? it's not from recruiting ppl..if everyone just recruit ppl without using products or understand what benefits that products can bring.. the whole system or company wil corrupt cuz there's no repeat sales since everyone in the world has already in this company.
and i duno y are there still so many negative news abt the products..dont they noe there are a lot of fake products trying to copy LB? if u really can prove u got burnt or hurt with proper use of instruction using genuine Lampe Berger Parfums de Maison and the Lampe Berger Catalytic Burner, do make a sue and claim the insurance from france main branch.
Renegade is nice. Vigilante sounds good too by the way hehe.
well,...in SYN.
The moment u join,u pay the membership fee and u get the product liao (no matter is francisee or COUNT)
Even though they say tat they are not doing "selling" but the moment the "recruit" is already a "buying n selling" has made already!
Otherwise y those SYN member got TONS of lamp in their house?
Lampe Berger Parfums de Maison = the meaning already proves its Perfume
If its aroma therapy, in french it should be = thérapie d'arome
so please people dont try and market LB as aromatherapy.
The problem is you probably wont see a future in SYN, it will perhaps collapse before you're able to obtain your 'future income'?
well,...in SYN.
The moment u join,u pay the membership fee and u get the product liao (no matter is francisee or COUNT)
Even though they say tat they are not doing "selling" but the moment the "recruit" is already a "buying n selling" has made already!
Otherwise y those SYN member got TONS of lamp in their house?
well,...in SYN.
The moment u join,u pay the membership fee and u get the product liao (no matter is francisee or COUNT)
Even though they say tat they are not doing "selling" but the moment the "recruit" is already a "buying n selling" has made already!
Otherwise y those SYN member got TONS of lamp in their house?
That is the reason why SYN is 100% legal because there is a transaction of goods. Not purely recruiment only.
WHAT IS IT FOR?
Simply, the Lampe Berger removes odors, kills bacteria and fragrances the air.
Developed by Monsieur Maurice Berger, a pharmaceutical chemist, each lamp features, under its’ stylish cap, a patented catalytic burner that destroys odors and helps purify the air, eliminating up to 68% of any airborne bacteria before the fragrance is dispersed.
The Lampe Berger is successful at destroying a whole range of odors at the molecular level, including:
:: Cigarette smoke
:: Cooking odors
:: Pet odors
:: Paint fumes
:: Many other forms of household pollution.
IS IT EASY TO USE?
The Lampe Berger comes with simple instructions and is safe to use. Just add fragrance, then insert the wick/burner, and allow the wick to soak for 20 minutes. Light the burner for two minutes and extinguish.
We invite you to download our brochure for further information.
As shown in the diagram below, after the purifying process occurs (destruction area), the fragrance then disperses into the air. 45 minutes are all that is necessary to fragrance a room of up to 300 square feet. To stop fragrancing, simply cap.
Found this from the Lampe Berger US website.
well,...tat is a quote from the "cult leader" in order to CONvinced his downline to make more monye for him.
Those downline just follow only.Like a sheep!
nightlord
syn then add plz PMD-only naive Lb members will believe him now.actually behind the msg SYN say: My dear slaves, our life can only be improve when u are able to withstand n conquer the shame of cheating our beloved frens, family,now v must b more united to work as slaves for me as v r being tested 4 our persistency, unity, slavery, integrity n Loyalty to ur grand grand master me(SYN).The future ahead of u will b more exciting n rewarding therefore lets walk 2gether as one and die as one when one day i run away ur money and hide in Hong Kong and as one vshall conquer n overcome any obstacles to earn money for me.
ur Grand Grand master Steven yeam (plz PMD-please Pass ur Money to Duke)
It seem like SYN really going to collaspe d hahahaha.why steven yeam will send this type of msg( obstacle, and challenges) to LB kidz?because the time has come when the devil will be punished.
Whoever joins SYN are bound to sufffer PMD in the future.
PS:- PMD = Permanent Moolah Drainage.
to steven yip: ur family not lost 30k, but u just stop this business because not continues...company not burn ur money.
kick ur ass bernard, u really hamkachan, u family will throw u always into big river and give u toilet paper to eat, really cbai kia.
u really really die in the hell and eat rubbish every day. cibai kia, hamkachan.
Hi zeus,
the products are useless, I never imagine people can get rich by selling lamps and fragrance.
TO ANONY ABOVE: I really dissapoint of u,bcos ur parents give birht 2u and hope u can have a good ambition like doctor,lawyer and etc.
But u end up become a CONslave for Steven YEam,...ur parents will be sad bcos u sold ur self as a "whore" to Steven Yeam.
So,u are the "REAL" hamkachan,cibai kia! Do u understand what the F*ck i'm saying here? Slave of STeven Yeam!
Peek-a-boo?
haha bernand7, you are very attractive to flamers lah.
in short, lampe berger sucks.
It seem like SYN really going to collaspe d hahahaha.why steven yeam will send this type of msg( obstacle, and challenges) to LB kidz?because the time has come when the devil will be punished.
"SIASAT" programme is a powerful awareness tool ! how do you guys think?
nightlord: ya lo,I stole their lamps recently and sell it in a very cheaper price in Petaling Street :P (can bargain)
antraxxx: This is bcos I know what are they (SYN ppl) doing and their next step as well.They 1 2 stop me bcos I make them can't recruit a downline mah! :P
to nightlord:
well seriously u dunno the long-term strategy. the income is not from recruitment. the case u mentioned is just to sponsore franchisee not maintenance. seems that u're new count. and if the products really useless as an aromatheraphy, i duno y it has the effect of aromatheraphy.. and yet still hv many ppl used the products before syn was formed.
to synners:
pls behave urself. becuz of all ur attitude that made up so many troubles in community nowadays. how do u wan ppl to respect u if u dunno how to respect ppl. pls upgrade ur knowledge n behaviour but not lowering it ok?
Anonymous!! You seem to like lamp business alot, why not u eat lamp everyday and commit RM30,000 worth of lamp a month (I mean yourself commit not your downlines)!! I am sure Steven Yeam will make you employee of the year!
Steven Yeam, I am sure you are a very talented motivational speaker, Why you go and target and bluff kids to do this business!!Why you give them false hopes and dreams where you know only 1 or 2% will survive end of the day. You should put your talent to good use like writing a book or doing personal development like Anthony Robbins.
A NOTE TO SYN BUDAK BUDAK: Remember nothing Last forever! End of the day, when you crawl back to your friends and family that you cheated and LANSI to, you have nothing but MALU! Also another advise: Life is not about MONEY, SPORTS CAR & LANSI. It is about spending time with your love ones rather than in your LB HQ in Menara HLA until 3 to 4am.
to anon whois posting to nightlord.
Firstly most of the benefits you gain from Lampe berger is physcologically. I can tell you, you're thin everyday(even when you're fat) and one day you'll fall for it. It is clearly marketed as a PERFUME/FRAGRANCE to remove ODOUR not aromatherapy, even it is clearly stated on the oil bottle itself as PARFUM in french for perfume. When the fact remainds nothing actually happened, you're only PSYCHOLOGICALLY feeling it because all the SYN members say so and you wanna be apart of them.
I heard the long term goal of SYN, that is to have franchises to be set up and selling across Malaysia. Did you know that concept was run sometime ago in Malaysia? I heard the company closed down once, and recently it set up again? That company happens to be Lampe Berger? For your information, LB is not essential to our lives at this point. There is no possibility of making it an exclusive product either. Use common sense who would wanna buy a lampe for 10k? I'm speaking majority.
And the BIG discussion here is the issue of how SYN members recruit their network, causing so much problems with their unethical behaviour. I've seen and experience the trouble they give. They caused me my time and money. Besides you particularly know they're alot of hidden agendas and cost in DCHL. Dont have to sweet talk the citizens that you're running a proper ethical business. Good day
To anon,
How do you expect them to show any respect to SYNners when your kind can't seem to respect those who earn their living with a stable 9 to 5 job in hand?
i am sorry pal,even u try to sell LB in Petaling street, no body will buy from u.unless the price tag is rm 10.:)
And we all know who is going to be your perfect guinea pig.
*sighs* SYN members are blind, even on the bottles its written PARFUM, I've seen myself before, but I dont know why they stupidly believe its AROMA therapy and dare to tell everyone its aromatherape.
talk about parfum or perfumes, we all can go buy CK and spray, maybe we have some aromatherapy effect... hahaha
well,..those SYN ppl think tat perfume and aromathreapy is the same.
Then dun tell those branded perfume like CK,Hugo Boss,Giorgo Armani is also aromathreapy? Then the "CK one" tat I use also aromathreapy wor :P
bernard: once again u talk like kids, better drink more milk to make ur brain grow healthy.
to anon: I drink low fat milk everyday,is good for my health! BUt for u,..u drink LB essential oil everyday? IS too bad!!!
U better go to drink breast milk la,...I find a "lai ma" for u 1 or not?
to bernard: yaloh, always drink expire date milk. so ur brain also expire. hahaah, want me buy some milk for u?
Better than you, not drink milk now only post rubbish! Lol!
check out nightlord's interest (click on his id):
Shadows, lies, intelligence, counter-intelligence, deception, grey areas, unknown, spin, deceit, subterfuge, sabotage, assasination, anarchy, chaos, death.
Choas!! LIES!! DECEPTION!! ulala.. your'e practising it real well in this blog - Chaos & LIES , in joining SYN to (konon) find it's loop hole and save humanity by shooting down SYN-DECEPTION!!I'd be stupid to listen and believe this kinda person.
Nightlord, you're darn blur enough to talk about helping people when you yourself need help more than others.
hurry up, go change your id before people starts clicking on it!!!
oh btw, why do u need to wait for the pay forward system to see if it'll be successful? i thought you intention is to shoot down SYN!! Why the change of mind now? Wanna see if you can make money from his new plan?! Nightlord's last comment in 'Fight Over Lampe Berger')
btw nightlord,
since you're the double agent here, and i'm sure you have attended Steven Yeam's talk on Pay-Forward System, why not you share with your fellow hardcore anti-lampe berger & fellow blog readers here what the plan is all about?
No progress from Steve & Gang on their so called 'quest' in knocking down SYN/DCHL... same old whole load of crap everyday...
- 27th July 2006-
Malaysia government should banned lampe berger. This so called "overseas" corporation never exists in Europe or United States. It is a scam that our goverment allowed and it is destroying our nation's biggest fortune. Our Youth. They stop working, stop studying. All they are doing is getting their friends into this shit they are in now.
And for the BMW or benz...i don't believe those guys even pay 20% of it.
Malaysia is truly destroyed by SYN or Lampe Berger. Those big guys up there in the pyramid should be in the court for scamming nation's millions of dollars. It should be life sentenced.
Now I know wheres those non-repaid PTPTN goes....
i have a question... how does the company survive more than 5 years until now in so many countries...
hey allthe stupid anti lampe berger,that why u all people are still the same situation,if u keep doin think anti thing,at the end, u still the same,wake up man,some people think that they are more dumd compared to other,the refuse to work hard and live in self-abandoment,that's a sign of weakness,as long as you work hard whole heartly,even a dumb man can achieve something great in life...may god heal u all people's heart....
I tell you all a great news!!! You can become MILLIONAIRE if you found or know everyone's health has deteriorated after using LAMPE BERGER!!! The insurance claim is up to 7 million Euro (about RM33.4 million). If you have not meet one, stop spreading things that you do not clear with. We all know China good in duplicating the genuine stuff. Accidents happen all the time, if you are careless with that. I also read news that a woman accidentally pour the soup on her kid, so do we blame the SOUP instead of the WOMAN izit?
recently the KPDNHEP officer called me and told me like this :
" LB sebenarnya dalam pemerhatian kami sebab melakukan pelaburan luar negara..... kami cadangkan kepada encik jgn membuat apa2 pelaburan. terdapat CEO mereka sudah dikenakan tindakan oleh bank negara..."
then, i try to find more about LB company. finally only RZ corporation still in list of KPDN. when i ask my gf... she told me that the RZ Corp is not active anymore...so? what the company now in charge the LB business because no company named as DCHL @ SYN listed?
i think the lamps and " mengarut" stuffs only their mask to hide waht are they doing ( cheating and cheating )
to all those stupid and self talking people.. don't judge a system if you already can't change urself. and for steven yip, what the f--k are u talking sh-t man??? pyramid?? scam?? have u ever study or share what is pyramid, binary, pairing system??? is it similar to the system introduce by LB??? come on la guys, it's all about urself.. if you want to eat ar, u expect the rice, food come to urself ka???? dont keep blaming other people, company, system if u urself cannot change ur attitude man... give urself a CHANCE to dare urself to do something u NEVER DONE before!!! that's what i called GENTLEMEN!!!! chow, n see u at the top!!! for steven, nice work..for me u are the one who destroying our people's mind.. no heart feeling bro, hahahahahaha if u dare post la my comment and see how those people think...
The culture has arrived in Kuching,Sarawak in the middle of 2008. But I just know this SYN thing on March, 2009.
I wonder why my so called new friend keep calling me and bring me out to have makan2 in open air. Now I know already.
And now I am a franchisee under him, because I trust him. But lately, after I become a member, I feel uneasy with the SYN concept, and try to look into the internet, and I found this blog.
I am so surprise that whenever i search for DHCL and SYN, there will be anti LB blog.
To be continue tommorow...... ( I have to go home)
hey there..act..i have something t0 say here..i already went t0 their NDO and all that..and f0r me everything lo0ks fine..h0w c0me all this antis happen? what the tr0ubled caused by them..?d0nt w0rry..im n0t yet their member..still thinking..
aku sokong DCHL aku sokong Lampe Berger aku sokong Network aku aku sokong system dan aku berjaya jadi jutawan dlm tempoh 6 bulan. aku berjaya sebab aku ikut system. yang gagal sebab tidak ikut system.
u know the tru what is good and bad, i know what u thinking of, u is a big virus in Malaysian MLM bis, u dont want to see other bis get more than u, u r suck, u suck ur dady nake,
KAU GAGAL SEBAB TIADA SYSTEM. TIDAK IKUT TRAIN B 1 DAN TRAIN B 2 DAN TIDAK PERGI CLOSING,SHARING JUMPA MQ....KAU GAGAL SEBAB KAU NAK ROSAKAN BIS ORG LAIN KAU NEGETIF DAN KAU VIRUS.MENGAPA YG LAIN BERJAYA DAN KENAPA TIDAK KAU. JAWAPAN NYA KAU IALAH VIRUS YG HARUS DIHAPUSKAN
'HIDUP LAMPE BERGER' KERANA KITA BETUL DAN ADA SYSTEM YG BAIK DRPD YG LAIN.................
assalamualaikum n hello,
harap saya dapat berkongsi pengalaman dengan anda semua.
saya dipelawa oleh kawan untuk join Friends Club. Menurut ahli FC itu, FC adalah dibawah DCHL. Mereka xpernah bercerita tentang produk yg ditawarkan atau barand produk tersebut.meraka hanya menyatakan secara umum FC menawarkan produk kecantikan dan perfume.
yang pasti strategi mereka adalah mencari pekerja2 sektor awam untuk sertai mereka kerana pkerja sektor awam boleh membuat pinjaman peribadi.
kawasan tumpuan meraka skrg adalah penang, kedah n perlis kerana kawasan ini masih kurang informasi tentang skim ini....
saya hampir2 terpengaruh untuk sertai namun Alhamdulillah saya terbaca di internet tentang masalah ini.jika tidak petang ini saya akan ke bank untuk membuat overlap loan saya......
thanks to all I realize before to late...
mereka cakap company bg jaminan 90% pulangan wang balik jika dalam tempoh 6 bulan tak dapat cari ahli.
mereka cuba pengaruh saya untuk join untuk pangkat Count.bayaran utuk Count rm39,000.
bulan pertama akan dapat rebate RM3,000.Jika dapat 1 ahli baru di bawah, akan dapat RM7,000.jika ahli di bawah dapat sorang ahli baru saya akan dapat RM3,000.
dalam tempoh 9 bulan jika saya dapat mantain sebulan 1 orang saya dapat langsaikan loan saya.
sekarang saya dah tak berminat untuk sertai meraka...terimakasih semua.
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