Monday, June 19, 2006

The Sun: 'Cash scam' worry for dad (19 june 2006)




Here's a story of a dad and his Lampe Berger son in The Sun today. I believe the same story was headlines for China Press too.

It's definitely smells like lampe berger...the clue? 30k.

It's good with so many press coverage hitting lampe berger. The end .... is near.

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'Cash scam' worry for dad 19 june 2006

Yesterday was Father's Day but there was no joy for Ho Ka Choon.

In fact, the 45-year-old kereta sapu(unlicensed taxi) driver from Johor Baru has been losing sleep ever since his
undergraduate son started dabbling in get-rich-quick direct selling some time ago.

What worries Ho most is the dubious nature of the direct selling scheme and that his son has been lying to him
and borrowing money from friends and relatives to raise RM30,000 needed to purchase
certain products that enable him to recruit more members and get commission from the scheme.

Ho told China Press his 21-year-old son, a second-year student of Universiti Malaysia Sabah,
was an honest and filial son until he was coerced into paying RM2,000 to join the scheme.

Now he is a sweet-talking salesman only dreaming of making it big, he said.

"My son told me that if he recruits five members, he can get 10% of the new recruits'
joining fee as commission, and if he then pays up RM30,000 (for products), he
will become a senior executive and enjoy up to 50% in commission," said Ho.

"My son wanted to borrow RM10,000 from me to advance his 'career' but I have
a feeling it (the direct selling) is a trap."

He said the scheme sounded too good to be true and believed it could be a scam.

Ho said after he rejected his son's requests for RM10,000 and the title of family land
to borrow money from a bank, his son turned to relatives and friends for help.

Apart from warning relatives and friends againts lending his son money, Ho
urged the government to enact a law to bar university students from taking up direct-selling.

62 Comments:

Blogger 5xmom.com said...

Closer to home, I have relatives, in their 20s who pestered the parent to mortgage their low cost flat for the RM30 to make it big. This is getting out of hand, isn't it?

5:34 AM  
Blogger jackal said...

a friend, if govt really do like this, i can ensure that those innocent uni stud will quit the study for full time LB.

better ask the govt to ban the LB scam

6:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's all the fault of the government for allowing them to carry on with a closed eye.

Isn't this the same story on front page of China Press June 18th ? Is it on June 19th again ?

7:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think its a follow up?

10:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is good news.i think is a best time 4 a peaceful riot,or a strike~!

8:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When I read that article on the SUN, I immediately thought "another stupid boy caught in the net of SYN!".

I wonder what kind of lame defense those cultist at SYN will have this time.

Filial son turns into a brainwashed drone. I feel sorry for the guy's dad, what a Father's Day gift!

5xmom~canlilian.net~, you better show your relatives the newspaper cutting and warn them of the dangers of joining the cult of SYN.

8:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

poor thing....30K..is actually an old story. now is 45K...no long later

8:53 PM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

Another victory for antilampeberger movement before their empire crumbles and finally wiped off from the MLM map.

12:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

awareness should be spread 10folded at this good timing.Do not stop. continue to strikes!

12:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LETS DO A MASS MAILING PEOPLE!

12:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heard someone is recruiting ppl to give out flyers to project awareness to the public abt lb scam during their bz preview day. a very powerful approach!i support them all the way!

12:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im willing 2 pay for ppl for recruiting ppl 2 distribute tis flyers for awarness.

1:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

most probably the market will be slow after the headlines.the number of recruitment for counts (45k)would be highly influenced i supposed and they might start with the rm 2k for easier recruitment first. but even 2k would eventually end up adding another 30k sooner or later (frm 2k is slow). the recuriting planning is absolutely man eating man's money and not acceptable!

2:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

havent got any mailing for awareness so far..must have stuck somewhere...

2:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

me too.... send some mailing awareness over!

4:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another interesting news on chinapress

June 20, 2006

「我兒子也變直銷員」
又一位父親訴苦

報導:陳松榮

(檳城20日訊)又一個沉迷直銷的青年!

隨著《中國報》上週日報導“大學生沉迷直銷”獨家新聞曝光后,又一名本報讀者陳先生(51歲)向本報投訴,其兒子也沉迷直銷。

令陳先生懊惱的是,兒子並不告訴他是進入哪家直銷公司,只一味向父親要錢,以成為該公司的“重要”會員。

“兒子向我強調,該公司主要的不是賣產品,而是賣‘系統’,越多人成為他的下線,他就越有機會發財。”

他續說,兒子加入的直銷公司,必須購買3萬令吉產品,不過,只要其兒子再邀請5人加入該公司成為其下線,他就可索回3萬令吉。

他表示,至今為止,其兒子已經花費超過2000令吉,去購買那些所謂的“產品”。

出動上線拉攏

他多次不滿兒子加入該直銷公司,這些猶如快速致富的“金字塔”式的直銷方法,只會令他損失更多錢。

“我的兒子一天兼職2份工作,卻將所有錢都放在直銷上……”

他也說,儘管極度不贊成兒子的做法,但其兒子不單止沒有停止當直銷員,還叫他的上線來拉攏父親,希望父親給錢他當直銷員。

來自直落巴巷的陳先生是名漁夫,他看到本報日前封面頭條獨家新聞報導“大學生沉迷直銷”的新聞后,向本報“訴苦”,並希望公眾別再上當。

狂買產品圖快速致富
女友頻借錢我好煩

女友沉迷直銷業,頻頻向男友借錢買產品!

檳城一名邱姓讀者看了《中國報》“學生沉迷直銷”的報導后致電本報,指其女友同樣沉迷在自稱可快速致富的直銷,並頻頻向他借錢,令人煩惱不已。

他說,其女友是在大約2個月前加入有關直銷公司成為一員。她參加一個課程即需繳交3800令吉,首次購買該公司的保健產品則花了2000令吉。

他說,其女友為了快速升職,不斷向他借錢以購買產品。據了解只要買得越多,升職就越快,從1萬3000、2萬至5萬令吉不等。

他說,這家公司所賣的保健品價格都貴得令人咋舌。他們常進行會議,對其會員灌輸快速致富的觀念。

他說,其女友好像被洗腦了似的,對他的勸告全都聽不進去。在本報報導大學生沉迷直銷的新聞后,他有把報導拿給其女友看,對方卻不以為然,還說那是不一樣的。

他說,類似的問題不只在新山,檳城同樣有人受害。

5:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we need more and more victims ,parents,relatives or boy/girlfriends, husbands/wifes and other third parties who witness any current lb members being brain washed to get rich quick to voice up to the public thru news paper,tv or even radios like a "lb tak nak" campaign to quickly help the innocents out of the scam as soon as possible!

6:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"india have filled legal cases and arrest warrant is issued against Steven Yeam for his fraudulant cheating attitude"

latest info from lampe berger help.

7:12 AM  
Blogger jackal said...

can anybody do something with the consumer society?

LB seems like turn to a brain and money eater.

7:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

www.dchl.com.my already down. I guess this is the first sign their business in Malaysia will be downed.

4:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hmm...

looks like dchl website is really down. hope it's down for good, and for ever.

4:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DCHL is having a company trip now. They go holiday while you guys hoping the company close down. So hilarious.

8:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dear wanderer,

so what if they going holiday? dont be in denial that DCHL is having a bad name lately, very bad name. ;) dont be shy to admit, lets see how far u guys can go alright? there is already a mass mailing to the people of our country to make awarness, let them choose. PLS go recruit!!ahah.

8:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

im happily mass mailing to everyone with just one click, i want ALL UR FUTURE PROSPECT to run when heard of DCHL/Lampe Berger!!!woohoo!

8:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to anti lampe:

父不瞭解詳情排斥直銷
大學生澄清非壞孩子

報導:陳秋蕾
(新山19日訊)“我不是壞孩子!”

“大學生沉迷直銷事件”中的主角今日現身澄清,他不是如報導中所言,是一個欺騙父母或騙人錢財的“壞孩子”。

從事直銷行業的何姓大學生(21歲)今日表示,經過與父母詳細解釋一番后,父母終了解其工作的詳情和來龍去脈,父子倆也冰釋前嫌。

從直銷學新知

他說,因為父親何家春一時的誤解,錯誤詮釋其工作性質,才引發一場風波。

“我日前看到新聞報導后,被嚇了一跳,過后和父親說明了整個狀況,他才了解到事件真相,現在都沒事了,只不過報導卻為我帶來了困擾。”

不願透露真實姓名的何先生向《中國報》說,他是從網上獲悉該項報導,指他不腳踏實地,頻向父母和親友借錢,而且多次撒謊,令父母心痛不已。

為此,他即刻飛來西馬,向本報表明這只是一場誤會。

他表示,一些朋友在看到新聞見報后,頻頻追問他發生什么事,讓他感到不勝其煩。

另一方面,何先生表示,其實加入直銷行業,讓他學習到很多東西,如時間的管理等、責任感和紀律等。

他指出,由于學會擅用時間,在唸書時比較得心應手,因而在本學期的成績有所進步。

他表示,他是個大學生,具有分析事非對錯的能力,所以直銷公司並沒有幫他“洗腦”,引導他做不對的事。

針對報導中所提必須向公司繳交3萬令吉一事,何先生說,這不是公司規定的數字,胥視每個職員對自己的要求而定,3萬令吉是他為自己所設下的目標。

10:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Latest News :
June 20, 2006

「我兒子也變直銷員」
又一位父親訴苦

報導:陳松榮

(檳城20日訊)又一個沉迷直銷的青年!

隨著《中國報》上週日報導“大學生沉迷直銷”獨家新聞曝光后,又一名本報讀者陳先生(51歲)向本報投訴,其兒子也沉迷直銷。

令陳先生懊惱的是,兒子並不告訴他是進入哪家直銷公司,只一味向父親要錢,以成為該公司的“重要”會員。

“兒子向我強調,該公司主要的不是賣產品,而是賣‘系統’,越多人成為他的下線,他就越有機會發財。”

他續說,兒子加入的直銷公司,必須購買3萬令吉產品,不過,只要其兒子再邀請5人加入該公司成為其下線,他就可索回3萬令吉。

他表示,至今為止,其兒子已經花費超過2000令吉,去購買那些所謂的“產品”。

出動上線拉攏

他多次不滿兒子加入該直銷公司,這些猶如快速致富的“金字塔”式的直銷方法,只會令他損失更多錢。

“我的兒子一天兼職2份工作,卻將所有錢都放在直銷上……”

他也說,儘管極度不贊成兒子的做法,但其兒子不單止沒有停止當直銷員,還叫他的上線來拉攏父親,希望父親給錢他當直銷員。

來自直落巴巷的陳先生是名漁夫,他看到本報日前封面頭條獨家新聞報導“大學生沉迷直銷”的新聞后,向本報“訴苦”,並希望公眾別再上當。

狂買產品圖快速致富
女友頻借錢我好煩

女友沉迷直銷業,頻頻向男友借錢買產品!

檳城一名邱姓讀者看了《中國報》“學生沉迷直銷”的報導后致電本報,指其女友同樣沉迷在自稱可快速致富的直銷,並頻頻向他借錢,令人煩惱不已。

他說,其女友是在大約2個月前加入有關直銷公司成為一員。她參加一個課程即需繳交3800令吉,首次購買該公司的保健產品則花了2000令吉。

他說,其女友為了快速升職,不斷向他借錢以購買產品。據了解只要買得越多,升職就越快,從1萬3000、2萬至5萬令吉不等。

他說,這家公司所賣的保健品價格都貴得令人咋舌。他們常進行會議,對其會員灌輸快速致富的觀念。

他說,其女友好像被洗腦了似的,對他的勸告全都聽不進去。在本報報導大學生沉迷直銷的新聞后,他有把報導拿給其女友看,對方卻不以為然,還說那是不一樣的。

他說,類似的問題不只在新山,檳城同樣有人受害。

11:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I believe the latter (latest news).
there is always a coverup or reclarification by SYN after every negative news related to them to clean themselves up! it happens for sinchews as well!

11:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

heard that you can only be refunded(90%) if you do not have any recruitment at all within the six months.Even if you have 1 recruitment you are not entitled for refund. so for those who just join and do not have confident to look for 5 recruitment within 6 months (to cover your invested cost)expecially those looking for 5 counts (45k),i suggest you quickly ask for refund b4 its to late!

12:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Izzit a real company trip?

Meaning company pay for the trip..
Or have to pay to the company?

1:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

their bloody trip are always paid by your own, all their club med trip all pay themselves..

2:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

even the coming IME in Singapore are paid by themselves. heard that its very expensive!whata gold digger!

2:50 AM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

anonymous who posts the same message over and over again..
well, please !! wat a waste of bandwidth.!!

4:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i thought I was the only one feel something wrong about that scam :). one of my friend feel MLM is more important than his study... keep up the good job..

5:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have checked china press website and couldn't find the so called clarification news by the son. I guess that fake news is written by a syn lampe berger COWARD and it has never been published in china press website. If what we said is not true, please give us the website link. If we couldn't see that link, meaning that those lampe berger coward has run out of bullet until must write a so called clarification that so called publish by the news website fakely.

5:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi guys, interesting read here. Just would like to ask if you guys know anything about Walton International? Apparently i have a friend who recently invited me to a talk to check out some investment on some land in Canada. Smallest investment is 30k man. They also tell me sure make money in a few years time and no one has lost any money in it. What do you guys think? Pls comment thanks

6:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i suspect investor is trying to cover up the LB news with his 30k story on Walton..... pls check him out

6:57 AM  
Blogger jackal said...

dear mr. investor,

do u interested to buy land on moon? i can issue land of moon ownership for u too.

9:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Excuse me for asking but why the hostiliy? I'm not covering up for anything and please be more well mannered in answering questions. If you don't feel like answering the appropriate question i suggest you don't even answer at all.

12:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zeus is up to his old tactics again, spamming the place.

The son was probably forced to give this lame excuse by his masters at SYN after the bad publicity.

But the damage has already been done.

My, my I wonder what's the next plot twist in this drama?

6:13 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

people, can you all stop suspecting every single shit? Walton is a legit organization, its about investing in land properties in Canada, and money doesnt return in few years, is 15years. it is meant for corporate people, age 30above to invest for their future children.

7:00 PM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

Walton is an international brand.
A trusted brand.
A brand where they put legal binding in all matters that benefits both sides in terms of claims..

investor, I feel you..
Sometimes, blogger need to have some ethics as well, but those replying might not be a blogger..

7:31 PM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

jackal..

selling a land on moon is so unjustified, even tho i know, people are doing it..

How could you make ur claim..
Does the international court approved it and it is in the international legislation?

But if it is totally legal and it can be guaranteed.. then i would want one..!! haha

7:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

of all the blogs and someone chooses this to ask a Walton question? I've nothing against the company, just my two cents worth

8:40 PM  
Blogger SSaturn said...

To everyone out there:
Indeed that the cases is getting bigger, now we even can see it on daily newspaper.

This LB pyramid scheme is like “Legal” “Black Mail”, let me explain why I say that. Have anyone watched “Derailed” before? You will see how the person black mail their victim. First they will ask from small amount of money, and they will tell you after you pay they won’t come back disturb you anymore.

Ok, here start, if you pay them the first amount money they request. Now they will see how easy they can get money from you. They will start step 2, request more money from you, using your family and your personal ego. They will see how far you can go, they will try to get any single cents from you, then move on to the next victims.

Let me break few point here.
Case 1: They will see the first amount of money, is it easy to get you pay or not. If you able to pay for the first amount of money, then they will demand for next level amount of money.
Question: Do you see the similarity? First RM 2,500+ then second RM 30,000

Case 2: They use some material such as your family, your personal ego to bring down their victims
Question: Some LB did use family topic and your personal ego to encourage you to join their down line, so in future you can take the responsible to feed your family in better life. Let everyone proud on you, pray you like a god (successful man I mean).


I apologize for my poor English.

10:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to anti lampe:

It already proved that, people like listen negative news (like rape, kidnap, killing....)

but positive news didnt want listen....

they want continues like that....

11:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wei steven yip, why dont shows news at 20th june?

11:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've seen the news Zeus, more like the son was trying to protect his own hide after all the bad news.

More and more people are aware of SYN's tricks.

11:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

zeus: i got 4 words for u...


GO AND FUCK YOURSELF!!!

1:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to anti lampe: so dirty ur tricks, always said fuck.

1:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

zeus: better than u CON ppls money! Even those aunty,ols lady money also want to CON! Steven YEam or ur parents teach u 1 is it? huh?

3:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to bernard: u better suck banana in ur whole life.

4:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nightlord: same disease with bernard, "penyakit kanak-kanak". how to cure? simple only, drink more milk make ur brain growth healthy.

11:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to nightlord: yaloh, ur genius always used nice word, cheat people. u treat other people like stupid and low IQ. but still do nothing, really pai ka chai. waste money.

2:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to anti lampe: ya loh, anti lampe also con people dont join....trust me...steven yeam cheat people.... same tactic.steven yeam and anti lampe both stupid hai, waste mother milk.

nightlord, kick ur ass...

9:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

great infos given by dexter. its sad i had friends who got trapped in lb and i got no way to pull them out from it. anyone managed to convince their friend to quit it successfully? no? yes?

2:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No progress from Steve & Gang on knocking down SYN/DCHL... same old whole load of crap everyday...
- 24th July 2006-

1:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

check out nightlord's interest (click on his id):
Shadows, lies, intelligence, counter-intelligence, deception, grey areas, unknown, spin, deceit, subterfuge, sabotage, assasination, anarchy, chaos, death.
Choas!! LIES!! DECEPTION!! ulala.. your'e practising it real well in this blog - Chaos & LIES , in joining SYN to (konon) find it's loop hole and save humanity by shooting down SYN-DECEPTION!!I'd be stupid to listen and believe this kinda person.
Nightlord, you're darn blur enough to talk about helping people when you yourself need help more than others.
hurry up, go change your id before people starts clicking on it!!!
oh btw, why do u need to wait for the pay forward system to see if it'll be successful? i thought you intention is to shoot down SYN!! Why the change of mind now? Wanna see if you can make money from his new plan?! Nightlord's last comment in 'Fight Over Lampe Berger')

7:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

btw nightlord,
since you're the double agent here, and i'm sure you have attended Steven Yeam's talk on Pay-Forward System, why not you share with your fellow hardcore anti-lampe berger & fellow blog readers here what the plan is all about?

8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No more prospects to recruit stupid LB jerk? So free to spam here.

Just go back to sucking up to your god steven yeam.

5:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No progress from Steve & Gang on their so called 'quest' in knocking down SYN/DCHL... same old whole load of crap everyday...
- 27th July 2006-

12:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

steve yip ... most probably u have lost some money in MLM before - cos u may not have the attitude for such business which requires dexterity n perseverance ! whatever it is, do not look back with regrets nor look at others with full of envy !!
pick up ur life n start all over again - life is not only $$$$$ !

8:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you all ppl get paid from saying n commentig other ppl company?? DO YOU this ppl really educated on how a MLM company work?? can u prove tat u r really correct of wat u already said?? after readin all the interesting comments from your blog,i feel tat all doesnt make sense..im not on lampe berger side or any other mlm company side..If really Lampe Berger cheating people money, why the govenment never stop them instead of let them continue their "scam"..?? another example, lets say tat,one day u have a drink at mamak stall, n found tat the drink there not clean n causing most of the customers get food poisoning n they complain at the newspaper,wat will happen?? is it scared everyone to go back to tat shop?? or mayb ppl will not have the chance to c the shop operating anymore?? becoz the government already take action.. pls be more educated of wat u going comment on your blog steven..YOU are making everyone in my office laugh of your uneducated explanation fo MLM..To all the guys who read on this blog,dont believe them till they can show u the copy of black n white tat government already stop DCHL from operating in M`sia.If you all living in malaysia but don believe your own government,then wat for to holding your i/c??may luck be with you..

8:12 PM  

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