Wednesday, June 28, 2006

More support email for Anti Lampe Berger

I have been receiving quite some email from people who encourages the effort on Anti Lampe Berger, and this one is from George Wong.

It shows that awareness is building up against this Lampe Berger business and also Steven Yeam Network.

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To put things into perspective, I think the people are selling LB as an
idea to make money rather than the products. The products value come
second to their so called "marketing plan" or "business plan". In fact,
the products are no more than just perfume and fragrance for the room.
Does they really know how ionisation work? I never see anyone question
about their products but the concerns revolved around how much money
can
they pocket.

Does they know what organic extracted oil cannot burn in low
temperature? Does the know reason why that the fragrance or essence of
whatever flower or plant is mixed with oil because oil can capture the
fragrance? For the "essential oil" to be able to burn at room
temperature with a lighted match, I'd say it has very high alchohol or
etanol mixture. The ceramic tip is used in the "lamp" design because it
has a very high heat capacity that the heat from burning the "oil"
would
allow whatever remaining to evaporate easier. Why not ask these LB
people to put a lighted match into the full bottle of essential oil.
Ask
them what would happen the next they in the hospital.

Essential oil, the real oil extract is very expensive. For the price LB
is charging, whoever buying should be getting real quality oil with
really low filler content. However, LB mixture comes with low essential
oil and the rest are Chivas Regal.

That's is why they are when sell LB, the products comes second because
if there are not much to say about the products, really. Conversation
with these occultist will eventually ends with "when are you joining?",
"Do you want to achieve financial freedom?".

Hey, let's be real. When I when for any job interview, my future boss
would not ask me to pay anything in order to make money. And it is not
even a franchise. Does they even know what is a franchise? MacDonalds
is
a franchise, so is KCF and many other business.

LB is merely focusing on recruiting. What is this? A franchise in
recruiting. When you join, you pay a recruitment fees or simply called
"joining fee". In exchange, you get their products which is very hard
to
sell. Then they will proceed to tell you ways to break even or get back
the money you spend on the "joining fee". Get other people to join, get
the commission and repeat the same story to them and cross your finger
they will be able to recruit other people to break even their "joining
fee". In the meanwhile, these occultist will make it more entising by
telling you who-and-who is making so-much-and-so-much, can afford a lot
more whatnots than before and all other stories. But how much person
can
be earn as much as he does? The fact that that person is already at the
top of the pyramid, and is getting a 50% commission from everybody, and
how much commission are the "downliners" getting?

Expand your pyramid's base. But you are still attached to that
from-rags-to-riches-person-who-is-earning-so-much-and-so-much. Can you
ever, think again, ever earn as much as him?

The answer is NO. He is already on top of you. Unless he decided to
give-up his compensation, quit or die.

Does they ever heard of saturation point? Or the lately, the tipping
point?

How deep can the pyramid go? It has to stop somewhere or there won't be
a pyramid shape at all. A pyramid without a shape is what Amway, Cosway
and such other like to call, Multi-level-marketing. No pyramid, simple
and easy.

Yeah, right.

The reason that these companies are still around because human greed
are endless. Who are not easily sway with the promise of rich and
properity? Money is the root of all even, let's not forget that.

And on top of that, they are smart when it comes to
approaching/recruiting "underline". Walk into any LB meeting, Amway,
Cosway, Tupperware. What do you see?


Similarity in the attendees.

Tupperware, you get mid aged ladies and food. Cosway and Amway, hmm..
you know who-lah. LB, young people in suit.

Talk to them, you will realised that most of these recruits have;

1. Dead End job.
2. Aim to earn lots of money.

Yeah, I wanted to earn lots of money too. Why did I bother to slave for
my SPM, my university and now, my work? Why?

If LB can promise so much of financial freedom, why bother to study at
all. Quit school now and start selling, I tell you.

But, if you quit school, you won't be able to have RM2400 or thereabout
for the "joining fee". You won't have that RM30k for joining fee. If
you
won't be able to pay up, how can one be rich? How can one start own
franchise business? That's a conumdrum.

Know what, they have all the solutions. Borrow from your mother. Borrow
from your relative, don't think twice of getting the cash advance from
credit card. Don't bother in any accessement. There's only one way,
just
do it. Did they even know what is the fallout rate? What is the failing
rate?

I know what they can tell, they will tell you that you are stupid not
to listen to them. That you are not open-minded enough. Hey, when I
sign-up for my engineering major, my management majored friends never
call me stupid for not joining them. Why is there a need to give a low
blow, so lowly that these occultist has to resolve to personal attacks
when they are recruiting?

But you tell me, why is it not stupid that I choose not to borrow from
my relative, my mom, my dad or my friends the money that I need for my
"joining fee"?

Why is that you tell me everyone can succeed in this business and yet
you can't extend money to me so I can join? Why is that you tell me
that
you believe I can success in this business but none of you can borrow
me
money? I thought you trust me, and the great "marketing plan" will work
out for me and yet why when it comes to loan me money to start you
never
say anything at all. Why do you tell me the products is so great, but
you can't assign some to me on consigment basis as I will pay you back
when I made a sale? Why why why?

Oh, I forget. That's not a part of your great "marketing plan". If loan
is extended to me while I recruite my underline the same way whilst
extending loan. There won't be any commission for anybody at the end of
the day. Oh, I forgot, is the policy that I can't even get the product
on consigment because it is not easy to sell and if there is any sale,
it will be a very long period before I can pay. And that means,
somebody
won't be getting their commission timely.

Well, if you must compare. Saying this is a franchise, I think if I
have MacDonalds franchise, banks are more than willing to extend me
loans. MacDonalds franchise owner would give me credit period as well.
Franchise owner will provide me with the necessary skill set for my me
and my future employer as well like managing people, flipping the
burgers, operate the timers on the deep frying machine, operate the
tilt. If MacDonalds does work for me, I can also find another job, say
in Burger King. If I can flip burgers well, I can operate the tilt
well,
maybe I will get a promotion to manager. If I quit as a manager I can
join any companies as a manager.

If I quit LB, I will loose my RM2400 something or the precious life
saving of my friends/aunt/uncle/father/mother of RM30k. If I quit, I
can't tell my future my employer that I am a Baron, or a Count, or
Marquis. I think if I do, I will just make them laugh. Very hard.

That bring to another question. Does anyone know anyone who is a
Baron/Count/Marquis quit/stop and because another company
Baron/Count/Marquis? Count Dracula does not..er..count(sorry the pun)?

What do you gain at the end of the day? How to recruit people by
telling them sweet promises. How far do you think LB would go before
reaching the stage where Amway or Cosway is today?

Well, at the end of the day. It is just money and greed is it? No?


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On another note, I also received "nice" emails from supporters of Lampe Berger. You can check out a few below:

Wah!!!!!! So impressed by the work you did. Wonder why you spent so much time and effort in doing something that doesn’t benefit you at all, unless you intend to build another SYN. If that’s your intention, guess you have succeeded as you have quiet a number of supporters. If your intention is just trying to be hero, guess you are just another idiot. There are plenty anti-amway out there claiming it is running on a pyramid scheme, but it is now a listed company. What say you??? Do you know how much stock the distributors have to stock up to maintain their status and qualify for their commission??? Check it out yourself.

When you close your eyes and sleep tonight, ask yourself a question: Why am I doing this????
"Ivy & Charlson"


i think u r anti of syn... not lampe berger... its just that u've mistaken syn as whole dchl... they r just a rotten banana from a bunch of beautiful and good one... i'm from team bisa... our team have been financially support by PUNB... I think... if PUNB can support us... u must know... that PUNB only open their loan for those who want to do retail business... that's what we're doing right now... yes... we do sponsoring too.. but... we balanced our business with retail too... maybe u r in johor bcoz syn operate mostly in johor... oklah... its up to u ... i'm not inviting u to join us... its just i want u to give fair judgement.... bcoz now i know... u dont even know us... u blame us... but never want to find out the truth... what a shamefull ... i hope those who heard from u... will open their heart to really find the truth then simply listen and believe...

tq very much
"Hazlina"

And....from Keith (not the last email...)


Steven,
I really start to doubt ur intelligence, lazy to talk to u, just go and think it urself if u still don't see anything weird behind these stories....
Why not that u make an official complain to Minister, police or who ever u like rather then living in ur own small world k? I think it will be more effective
But it's quite fun also to see ur "clown perfomance" with all ur "brilliant" points toward DCHL from ur blog. Keep ur hardwork k. I don't want to see u dissapear first before DCHL
Keith

Yes, I will keep up the hard work....

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Blogger anthraxxxx said...

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12:59 AM  
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1:05 AM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

"Keep ur hardwork k. I don't want to see u dissapear first before DCHL"

Is this a death threat, keith? I'm sure you can do better than that.

1:05 AM  
Blogger Wingz said...

Exactly!!! Lap berger is not selling any products, in reality they are selling hopes and soon that hope will crumble down and perish ... then those barger will wakeup lol!!!

U want that lamp ka? come buy from me la ... i can see to u whole set less than RM50 la! diu need to fork out so much for that bloody lamp meh? can create ions konon la ... kakaka Now only i know our consumer is naive one!

2:03 AM  
Anonymous nicholas87 said...

please read 29th June 2006's SinChew Daily! read the Metro Edition (Da Du Hui)!!!

i guess they are talking about LB!

haih... it's LB again! see what they did to our society! terrible..

2:05 AM  
Anonymous duke said...

those ppl really brainwashed to the max already. can't help them anymore, especially keith, talking as if he is very wise. ha ha ha ha...

really stupid people there. even LB in Singapore is dying. last time some more say want to expand to Europe and US. hah hahahaha...

stupid people..

2:57 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Wah!!!!!! So impressed by the work you did. Wonder why you spent so much time and effort in doing something that doesn’t benefit you at all, unless you intend to build another SYN. If that’s your intention, guess you have succeeded as you have quiet a number of supporters. If your intention is just trying to be hero, guess you are just another idiot.There are plenty anti-amway out there claiming it is running on a pyramid scheme, but it is now a listed company.What say you??? Do you know how much stock the distributors have to stock up to maintain their status and qualify for their commission??? Check it out yourself.

When you close your eyes and sleep tonight, ask yourself a question: Why am I doing this????

"Ivy & Charlson"


Well,Ivy & Charlson,u r rite tat amway is a listed company but when I check BSKL there is no such "DCHL/SYN" exist.Can u explain this to me? If u say tat Amway ppl need to stock up product to maintain their status,what's the difference with DCHL/SYN? also same rite? U also buy those lamps to maintain ur status as well.

Plus 1 more thing,I dun see in those newspapers complain about amway ands cosway but recently I saw many "news" from DCHL/SYN ler.Even the paper nvr say the company name but from the news tat i read is DCHL/SYN laio...even a blind ppl also know as well!

3:00 AM  
Anonymous dan said...

Keep on dreaming SYNers..
Keep on working hard, using up your time to spend at trainings, meeting up prospects..

Keep on "building your network" as you say..
"I will succeed" later.. you might..

And to the johor folks who retail it. Really you can retail it ahh?
It is not designed to be sold retail..
Got shop to retail izzit?
Loan from PNUB still got to pay..
Calculate and see la.. per month to pay the loan from your income..
Can pay or not?

3:10 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

To all those SYNners posting here,

Words from the mouth of a renegade SYN.

I wanna watch you lowlifes wail and cry when SYN collapses and all your money and dreams go up in a puff of smoke.

You know only how to question people, but you do not know how to give answers. Until today, none of you are able to explain to me why SYN operates with so much lies.

So take it from me, when i hear SYN get's shut down, i'll be watching each and every lying bastards and bitches that you are dragged off to your personal hell.

3:12 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

....and please don't compare your 'CONpany' with other companies..

don't change topic...

3:20 AM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

steven yip,

Good job.LB KIDZ claim that u spend so much time on this blog for nothing. But i say obviously they dont know whats the meaning of Serving the community n contribute to well being of society. Those SYN are parasite of society.why? they are a bunch of worms which sucks hard earned money from country n distribute to thier bloody upline.what contibution have they done to our country economic?no, they are creating higher inflation rate.What the...then they broke family bond, friendship. SYNer, we gain nothing from commenting in this blog, at least i can sleep well at night by crushing u all down. Can u Syner sleep well at night?:)when is ur BMW taken back by bank hahaha

4:32 AM  
Anonymous Lawrence X said...

Well put George Wong.

Keith, you're just a bonehead ignoring every sufferings LB has caused around while still keep saying there's nothing wrong with LB.

This blog is not for SYN network only. It's for this whole sickening LB marketing plan and the members.

Good job Steven Yip!

5:08 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

jack lim: I agree onm wat u said! Salute u man!

STeven Yip:U are the MAN!! keep it up man! We will side with u always and I can't wait to see DCHL/SYN closed down 1 day.I wish to see all SYN member crying in front of HLA building,fight against each other about the so called "dream and big money".

If DCHL/SYN closed down 1 day,I wonder where will they go?I would like to see.

If they go find a job,during interview when the manager asking him/her wat is ur working experience? I believe they will answer this:

"I was DUKE/MARQUIS/COUNT/BARON/FRANCISEE in DCHL/SYN.Our product is lampe berger lamps"

I wonder that manager will wondering what kinda job they work previously! :P

6:54 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

Don't really understand what the OP tried to say. His knowledge on "essential olis" and usage are not corect at all.

9:29 AM  
Anonymous |chris| said...

i openly challenge any syners to enlighten me abt your oh so brilliant business plan...

will even walk up to HLA to see the oh so wonderful masterplan!!!

anyone?

10:41 AM  
Anonymous HAvoc said...

Good job Steven Yip! It’s about time for some one to stand up against those day dreaming LB fella. To Keith, I think you already know the truth yourself and you been denying it ever since because you invested too much in it and can’t back out without having to suffer an enormous losses. The way you keep on supporting LB is because you know we are your source of income, and the more people you sweet talk to join you is the only way you can cut your losses. Don’t worry bro. I feel you, you must kicking yourself now for having those lying bastards sweet talk you to join them. Don’t worries, we here will made sure to inform the people of this LB hazards so no one will end up being you. Rest assure man…

10:58 AM  
Anonymous TEH POWAH said...

Way to go Steven Yip!

At least you can take comfort that this blog has indeed reached out to more and more people.

To my fellow anti-SYN, DCHL, LB members, our work is still not finish.

We must continue to inform more people of the dangers of this evil cult, so that they will not fall into this trap.

5:43 PM  
Anonymous 等生命的活人 said...

引用了你一篇支持者来信,不说些话支持是说不过去的,虽然我对LB的认识不深,但是我认为他还是有不道德行业的嫌疑.
支持你对这行业的调查以及揭发,继续加油.

8:23 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

|chris| said...
i openly challenge any syners to enlighten me abt your oh so brilliant business plan...

will even walk up to HLA to see the oh so wonderful masterplan!!!

anyone?

well chris,I been there 2 times already,they still talk the same thing,show the same plan.I already sien liao.

Better take the time watch movie.

8:59 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

引用了你一篇支持者来信,不说些话支持是说不过去的,虽然我对LB的认识不深,但是我认为他还是有不道德行业的嫌疑.
支持你对这行业的调查以及揭发,继续加油.

what meaning ????

bananaman here.

12:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have to praise steven for his good job in his efforts in trying to wake everyone up from this scam.
Its the normal attitude of the LB members, When you question about their business, they bring in other business, sometimes Macdonalds franchise as well. Its totally different, but in their hearts they always deny it, living in some dream world.
As for Keith, I'm sure the SYN members 'attacked' his family background or his inner psychology to brainwash him. Look at all those who are totally 'into' this business.... all money minded, dreaming of having a big house, big car and retiring at the age of 30?
Nowadays LB news comes out average once in a month on the papers. Keith, you can go back to your dreamland, while we're all awake here.
I'm sure the LB members are struggling now to obtain more new members now that most people are aware of their scam/ponzi tactics to lure in prospect members.
Like the email said, my true friends won't shun me away because I took up a different kind of job. But SYN-ners say you're a bad friend just because you don't join/support them doing this business. They laugh at you, telling you that you cannot make an income with your job. How pathetic when I see other permanent job friends who are able to buy a house before the SYN ones do.
Their plan never change,recruit, recuit recruit... its kinda fed up...

2:19 AM  
Anonymous |chris| said...

hey bro b3rnard7...

hehe... aiyo, its a challenge for the syners la.... i would love to have a debate with their so called uplines or bla bla bla.... hmm.... so far, even their famous mc, F*B**N also no match la...

wonder anyone ele want to take up the challenge...

cheers brother...

4:54 AM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

teh powah is right. they are certainly feeling the pinch now. But our work is far from over. As this would give nothing but opportunities to the evil SYN cultist to improve their strategies in order to survive under the harshest environment at all cost, just like a virus. Viruses are not only well known for it's ability to adapt but it's a very bastardly persistent microorganism too. Same goes to an evil cultist organization like SYN. That is why it's not the time for Anti LB/SYN/DCHL movement to relax, but work harder to exterminate this social plague so that it would neutralized any SYN revival in the future.

Lastly, kudos to every Steven Yip Network supporters for all the efforts you've put in this revolution haha.

5:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

heard that DCHL/SYN has changed their policy drastically due to negativities and bombardment.

no more 1 shot investment to buy count(mostly start from baron from 1st july)is the latest alteration in order to cover up too many 30k issues raised recently.
many ppl try to gain their countship/marquieeship by today to save work on recruiting 3 barons (equivalent to 1 count)starting from next month.
The whole thing is a camouflage to eliminate the 30k count issue but still the same nature recruit, recruit and recruit . Now become quantity and not quality! whatever way they change is still a recruitment scam! those ppl who stuck in the midway would need to find more ppl with lessr investment. recruitment quantity almost trippled! Dont think this gonna work!

5:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

keep up the good work and awareness needed to be trippled at this critical time! thanks to steven yip and the ppl who help in creating awareness. persistancy is crucial.

5:29 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

Vive le revolutione!

We will not rest until SYN is but dust beneath our feet.

'For though wars might come and go, but my soldiers stay eternal'
-Tupac..(also taken from xXx: the next level)

12:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if the block the 30k/45k promotion investment, there are still ways to manipulate. My good friend brother wife is a good example. She use her own name, her husband name, my good friend name, and another 3 relatives name, invest 200k, straight away jump to become monkey. She invest 2 years ago, when asked whether she take back the 200k investment, she say "take back liao", but when we find out later, is she take back less than 50% money, and the rest is unused stock. So, she dump the stock everywhere lor, at my friend house, office, all relatives house, cars, everynight burn LB oil to let her 1 year old baby enjoy (i really worry about her baby health, but she wont listen to our advice). This is a genuine story, steven yip should have know too since his business partner is same gang with us. We think she already understand that LB is a scam, just dont want to admit it.

4:49 PM  
Anonymous TEH POWAH said...

Unfortunately the above is quite true as we Malaysians always try to save face.

If something wrong, we always tell people no problem because malu to tell people we screwed up big time.

My only advice is to tell your good friend regarding this scam (be sure to tell him about this blog and lampebergerhelp) and hope he wakes his wife up before going more and more deeper into this hell.

5:56 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

well,..recently I just saw my fren in MSN (the 1 who invite me to HLA last year)

I ask her how r u recently,she say fine and just got a job.But when I ask her how's her business? she say still ok la...

When I ask her wat do u mean by still ok? She say "got do lo"...I really 1 2 see how long she can be with the lamps! hahaha!

6:50 PM  
Anonymous dan said...

wahaha...

dump in 200k to be a marqui?

Its like your own mind conning yourself..

How ignorant can you be?

Pay money for status..
Pay money up front for higher
comission..


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7:12 PM  
Anonymous dan said...

Use logic la LB members..

If u see above.. if the money comes from within the group only..
Somebody has to lose money (lots), for somebody to make money.

Only if there are external sales, then it is possible to make money without losing money.

And if you pay upfront, of course you can get higher comission than normal because your own money is being used to cover the extra comission.

And do not forget it is designed for the company to make money also first..

7:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

傳銷員游說拿錢投資
誘騙離校生賺快錢
吉隆坡28日訊)一些多層次直銷公司傳銷員以不法伎倆,誘騙入世未深的離校生以大筆錢進行投資,以在短時間快速致富!

據知,有關傳銷商為了達致本身“快速致富”的目標,專向離校生下手,誘騙他們加入公司組織,成為會員后,再付出大筆款項購買公司的產品,開拓一番事業。

結果,許多離校生加入成為會員,並向親朋戚友借錢投資后,發現事與願違,想拿回投資金時,卻又因為已簽下合約,無法悉數拿回資金,損失高達逾萬令吉。

2名來自蕉賴9支,屬堂姐弟關係的受害者張俊偉(22歲,離校生)和張小姐(22歲,離校生),是在去年10月加入某多層次直銷公司后,受到上線游說拿出3萬令吉進行投資,以期短時間內賺大錢。

張俊偉說,他與堂姐各掏出3萬令吉,包括2000令吉入會費加入該公司組織后,發現上線的做法很不妥當,似有欺騙成份,于是在今年3月決定退出,卻無法拿回投資金。

他說,其上線說服他加入成為會員后,一味游說他拿出更多錢進行大投資,以像他們一樣可以更快速賺到錢和出入駕名車等,他便帶家人上該公司瞭解這門生意。

他說,其上線還告訴他,若是投資后,半年內發現本身不適合做這門生意,可以退出並拿回90%投資金,即只虧10%而已。

他說,他在加入會員后也簽下一份合約,合約闡明公司產品有哪些可以退還,那一些不可以,可是其上線沒有向他詳述。

結果,他指出,當他要點購產品時,其上線基于他不懂選購產品而自我推荐代為點購,豈知所點購的產品竟全是不可以退還的,導致他要退出會員時無法退貨,損失高達1萬4000令吉。

另外,張小姐說,我是通過朋友介紹加入該直銷事業,過后也介紹我的堂弟進入,結果當我們發現有關上線有欺騙成份,打算退出時,卻被告知產品無法退還,導致拿不到90%投資金。

她說,其情況與堂弟不同的是,在選購產品時有母親在旁協助,幫她挑選一些可以退還的產品,使產品大部份獲得退還,可是因為上線耍技倆,導致她最終與堂弟一樣,只可拿回1萬6000令吉,虧了1萬4000令吉。

張俊偉和堂姐為免更多校上當,逐向馬華蕉賴區會服務中心主任吳心一投訴,希望通過報章揭發這些傳銷員使用不法技倆誘騙離校生進行投資計劃,以提高公眾意識。

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馬華蕉賴區會服務中心主任吳心一促請貿消部執法組嚴厲管制直銷公司,確保傳銷員在招攬會員入會時,不會使用不法或欺詐手段。

他說,目前有很多人投訴,指一些直銷公司的傳銷商利用不法伎倆,誘騙離校生以大筆資金從事直銷事業,導致許多離校生向親友籌錢,結果生意做不成,反而欠下一大筆債務。

他說,這對于離校生來說是一項很大打擊,還未出來社會工作即面對挫折感。

他呼籲家有初踏入社會工作或求學子女的家長,必須提高警愓,以免孩子成為不法傳銷商的“獵物”。

他今日針對2名離校生在投資直銷事業,因聽信上線的話,結果投資不成反個別虧損1萬4000令吉的問題時,這么指出。

出席者包括馬青蕉賴區團精工隊隊長沈永平和服務中心副主任張志輝等。

他說,這些傳銷商以“出更多錢投資即可以賺得更多”為技倆誘騙入世未深的離校生,包括大學生,以達到快速致富目標。

他說,其實,根據1993年直銷法令,會員加入直銷公司后,若認為不適合加入,想要退出,即可以獲得退還入會費。

“可是,2名受害者張俊偉與其堂姐並不知曉,因為他們的上線沒有告訴他們有這樣的條例,結果錯失了退還入會費的機會。”

他說,這2宗個案主要是傳銷商個人問題,與直銷公司的作業方針無關,因此他也希望直銷公司嚴正看待傳銷商以不法技倆招攬會員的問題,對付破壞公司信譽的傳銷商。

另外,他說,張俊偉與其堂姐的個案,在法律上,相信要拿回90%的投資金,相信機會非常渺茫。

他希望政府能修改現有的直銷法令和嚴加執法管制直銷活動,以免有更多人民身受其害。

8:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the above news is from this link http://www.chinapress.com.my/content_new.asp?dt=2006-06-29&sec=malaysia&art=0629mb90.txt

8:06 PM  
Anonymous TEH POWAH said...

To B3rnard7,

I thought all these LB ppl say no need job! How come suddenly your friend go and get job?

All these talk of how LB can change your life, make you millionaire but your friend still go out and get a job?

What a joke!

8:07 PM  
Blogger jackal said...

all this LB scam is really bastard!!! big big con!!! want to earn $ but did it in wrong n sinful way.

but sad to see that there r still so many innocent (or foolish) youngster being trapped.

9:42 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

teh powah:Dun worry,I will see how long see can "do" with her SYN.I still remember she bring her UM SYN gang to CONvinced me but failed,even her upline (CLOWN) also sms or call me when there is NDO and some so called seminar...but I say not free n tats it.

I also got a bit "boh song" with her,cos she ask me go KLCC yumcha wif her(during tat time I also 1 2go KLCC shopping as well) but when she bring me to jln kia peng,then I know got sumthing behind liao.

Dun worry,no gals can fool/cheat me as well.Her CONvincing skill is sucks compare to those promoter in supermarket!

11:32 PM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

On an unrelated matter,

Fuck you Michel Lubos!

12:25 AM  
Anonymous jacl lim said...

dear anti SYN frens,

Just wanna share a lame(lampe) joke with u all.if u familiar with SYN enough u will know a sentence that sound like this: great very great Yes!!!in cantonese- Hou fei siong Hou Yes!!.Hou in mandarin is can be written is monkey.so in traslation into cantonese means Its good to be monkey, Yes.man evolved from monkey.Man has acquired intelligent to think and analyse.but monkey no!!! monkey is uncivilized.So SYN is uncivilized too ???if not why called themselves monkey good?worse there is a post call marquis(monkey).whenever i listen to Hou fei siong Hou yes..i cant sleep at night cos i will laugh till morning.the truth is SYN member lose thier ability to think anymore aftr being brainwashed.NLP can make u bark like Dog.hehehe

12:35 AM  
Anonymous Cat said...

to steven yip:

1) first point i want touch about why SYN used business plan to make money and put product at second place. Because, if one product very very good but can not make money, do u want invest? product one of important element in MLM company, if can not function and market, it can not survive very long. Ask urself, is it lampe berger can function, how many year he already survive?

2) all the function of oil already proved by proffesional team not me, lampe berger member and u also. if got problem, how can many people used it especially rich man?
if hospital simply cheat by our member or lampe berger member, we question their professional view isnt it? so we scared get medical service from hospital soon, right?

3) i want touch also about price of lampe oil. internet show the price much lower than DCHL, why? i can challenge u, u can try order one oil from internet, after u get the oil, i want to see how much they charge u. u must add the transportion fee, tax, other charge....

4) we really not touch product too much, but we show the function of product at SYN and also talk about product knowledge. we not mention our product have super function but it show can function and help some disease.

5)the business mindset is concertrate to how to make money, this concept more accept by many people. concept is "used free product, also earn money" is more direct and simple. So many teenage like it.

6) Ur future boss of course dont want ur little money, they just want ur time to work with him. u not his partner, u just his employee. U must know how to different the employee and partner.

7) u know franchise or not? i also dont know. so i do know how to comment.

8) in pyramid system, today u are "downline" but tomorrow u will be "upline" depend how u work hard.
Pyramid system need upline pull downline become upline, so he can start earn money. ur downline not earn money, u also not earn.

9) recruit can used to hire employee and find suitable partner. if recruit employee, employee get money. if recruit partnet, partner will invest money and earn money.

10) most people scared saturated point, of course one day will happen. but u ask amway people, is they scared saturated point? theory said if 1 person find 5 people per day, 1 month all malaysian will know lampe berger, u ask urself is it already happen? is it all people know lampe berger?

11) after saturated point they feel difficult to recruit people but they sell DCHL product more easily.

12) Is it people want used opportunity find money is greedy and endless. So all people is greedy, because they also find money and always said not enough money. MONEY IS NOT ANYTHING, BUT NO MONEY IS CAN NOT.

13) U can jelous the to line, but u really know how they do it? is they catch opportunity as well and used it very well? u also can said they phsyco people, many people been physco can archieve they want. they can phsyco people, it mean they have certain skill, isnt it? if u stupid, u can phsyco people or not?

14) In LB, always said give better life to family, financial freedom. Working can provide certain level of life, but they didnt have many choice. After they succeed they can have many choice.IS WAS LEVEL PROBLEM.

15) Many problem come from human error, not from company. is it company told them borrowfrom lintah darat?

16) RM30K very big, is it right? of course lah because we never earn 30k in our life.

17) u just know some people quick study to do LB, but u know many people complete their study and do LB also.

18)believes important in this business. Like u believe after graduate can get better job. if u dont believe ur course, u will quick at half way. many member didnt believe untill end, so they quick at half way.

19) IF failed lost 30k (sometime 40k because loan interest), scared right? if succeed, how much earn?

20) This business not like investment, u must do hard also.

21) failed other business, not easy to restart because want invest more. LB failed, lost 30k, but whole life wait for u continues.no need top up ur invest amount.

22) u keep whole life LB product in store also can because they dont have expired date.

23) Steven, nice blogg. Can keep try... give idea to our member to pre caution the bad thing and not repeat the wrong thing.

24) THANKS to u post many important information. so we can keep improve ourself.

25) Sorry for any incovinience.

4:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to the Cat above:

my english is sux, but ur english more sux than me, WTF, is it all LB ppl english is SUX????? =.=

4:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

whats life about?is it about money?money is important but it is not primary. The ethic of earning money is very subjective to every indidual. earning money thru cheating or ways which seems legitmate must finally sacrifice other peoples wealth is not the right way either, this is an selfish act to earn money without caring for others. this would create a extremity in rich and poor.anything that is easily gain will be easily lose eventually. Many ppl do not consider this phenomena and blindly fallen into traps to be rich fast.And the consequences of it is even disasterous than you could imagine not only to others but to the one who is ignorantly doing it. Unseen EGO which doensnt serve you in future is built during the act which creates a false self overwrites the true pureself.this is even disastrous cuz the most difficult thing to face is to regaining the true self out from the EGO built. Ponder about it b4 you do anything and think about whether it serve you ULTIMATELY in future.

Namaste
The Buddhic Annonymous

5:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blindedly follow ways to gain money fast without any serve of help to others is ultimately a big human flaw. Its like an unconscious greed in the mind of a human being which overwrites the truth and the ethicness of life.

5:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the marketing plan itself is undoubtedly a fast making money plan by recruiting. it would collapse sooner or later.

6:23 AM  
Anonymous jack lim said...

Dear Cat,

Would u like to intro this site to ur prospect and all ur downline since u say its a nice blog?

6:39 AM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

goodness gracious, i practically tortured my own eyes after reading cat's comment.

8:56 AM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

"25) Sorry for any incovinience"

Dear pussy cat, you're not forgiven. Please feel sorry for your own writing. It had caused nothing but a whole load of inconviniences to me. I'm still attempting to decipher what you are trying to say, really.

9:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pity my brains, they're melting the moment i started to translate this alienated language into a proper meaning.... *sighs*
so basically he's saying LB is more expensive on the net which is not true, you dont need to pay taxes(3), only shipping which doesnt account to 1k. pussy cat kept using the word piramid scheme, cat is already telling everyone LB is a scam. Many smart people deny its a piramid scheme but an MLM because MLM is legal, piramid schemes are illegal(8).
anyways bottomline, cat is saying he/she is stupid because cat got psychoed into this business (13).. phew save me from pussy cat.. killing my eyes

10:21 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

Hey cat,

I stop reading your message after point 1) or 2).
It proved you are really STUPID or CUNNING;

Lampe Berger has over 100 years history as "fragrance" products and never claimed any other effects in France. What claims have your Company made ?

Have you seen the HK TVB program which clearly stated the MLM Company in HK has overclaimed ?

Have you seen the HK magazine article that clearly stated Lampe Berger MLM business in HK is a SCAM ?

How come your Company don't sue them ?

Yeah, I know you will tell the people in Malaysia that there is "no proof" for such claims. If the evidence are brought to you, you will say, "Oh, the HK Magazine and TVB have apologised to us or misreporting"

If you still don't change your attitude or opinion, then change your name. You deserve to be a rat, not a cat.

11:11 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

jack lim,

I like your reply.

11:13 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

LB SYNners are SINners. They have no conscience at all.

They always pretend not to know the fact that:

a) Even if nobody give up the business, at any point, the MAJORITY of those who paid are the losers,
b) There is no SATURATION point in a SCAM. There is only a STAGNANT point when everyone knew the scam and no more victims will join.

They will always pretend and mislead that:
a)they are the same LIKE Amway or any other MLM when they know very well it is different; and
b)they will not comment on something they "don't know" when they actually know but could not find an excuse to cover it.

11:28 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

Cat,

to CAT and all SYNners,

I came back from a night out high, and i felt like i just want to curse you until your ancestors...but seriously, i rewrote my comment to actually put something of value up...and not just mere curses. read on, feline...

1) first point i want touch about why SYN used business plan to make money and put product at second place. Because, if one product very very good but can not make money, do u want invest? product one of important element in MLM company, if can not function and market, it can not survive very long. Ask urself, is it lampe berger can function, how many year he already survive?

PRODUCT AND SERVICES ARE THE MAIN FACTOR WHY BUSINESS PLANS EXIST, TELL ME WHY 'POWER OF ONE' EXIST? POWER OF ONE DOES NOT TALK ABOUT PRODUCT PLACEMENT NOR PROMOTION, BUT ABOUT RECRUITING MORE PEOPLE TO EXPAND YOUR NETWORK....WHERE IS THE IMPORTANCE OF WHETHER THE PRODUCT IS GOOD OR NOT?? A GOOD PRODUCT WILL MAKE MONEY, YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF A GOOD PRODUCT THAT DOESN'T MAKE MONEY...SHOW ME GOD DAMNIT.

2) all the function of oil already proved by proffesional team not me, lampe berger member and u also. if got problem, how can many people used it especially rich man?
if hospital simply cheat by our member or lampe berger member, we question their professional view isnt it? so we scared get medical service from hospital soon, right?

AGAIN, LET ME STRESS TO YOU ( IN MY CASE ANYWAY)...LAMPE BERGER IS BUT A TOOL USED BY DCHL/RZ/SYN...IT'S NOTHING ABOUT THE PRODUCT. YOU CAN BE SELLING CONDOMS FOR ALL I CARE. LAMPE BERGER IF PLACED ON MY ALTAR WILL LOOK GOOD...AND THAT'S ABOUT IT...DON'T TELL ME LAMPE BERGER CAN CHANGE MY LIFE! MEDICAL CARE WILL CHANGE MY LIFE!!

3) i want touch also about price of lampe oil. internet show the price much lower than DCHL, why? i can challenge u, u can try order one oil from internet, after u get the oil, i want to see how much they charge u. u must add the transportion fee, tax, other charge....

PLEASE, SHOW US AN EXAMPLE THEN. IF I CAN GET A DIFFUSER FOR LESS THAN 40 USD ( FOREX AT 3.8, GIVE YOU ADVANTAGE, PRICE WILL BE RM158 BUCKS, DON'T TELL ME TRANSPORT COSTS RM300.. THAT'S ABOUT THE CHEAPEST DIFFUSER I CAN GET...AND THAT ONE IS A LOW GRADE UGLY LOOKING GOD FORSAKEN BOTTLE...OH, AND IT'S NOT PROMOTIONAL ITEM OK.)

4) we really not touch product too much, but we show the function of product at SYN and also talk about product knowledge. we not mention our product have super function but it show can function and help some disease.

YEAH, SHOW FUNCTION OF PRODUCT, I CAN ALSO SHOW FUNCTION OF MY COCK TO INCREASE THE POPULATION OF MALAYSIA. AND I'M NOT DISEASED. NOW YOU SAY NOT MENTION SUPER FUNCTION, THEN WHAT IS THAT TAGLINE BEING TOUTED AT SYN MEETING'S ABOUT LAMPE BERGER BEING THE ANSWER TO WORLDWIDE AIR POLLUTION?? ISN'T THAT PUSHING THE FUNCTION??

5)the business mindset is concertrate to how to make money, this concept more accept by many people. concept is "used free product, also earn money" is more direct and simple. So many teenage like it.

WHAT FREE PRODUCTS??? I PAY FOR THE GODDAMN PRODUCTS, I PAY TO JOIN SYN, I PAY TO GO FOR TRAININGS AND I BLOODY HELL PAID FOR THE TABLES I USED....SO WHAT IS FREE???? HELLO, ALL BUSINESS IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE MONEY, DON'T THEY TEACH YOU THAT IN SCHOOL? IF NOT, WE MIGHT AS WELL DO CHARITY THEN. AT LEAST IT'S MORE ETHICAL.

6) Ur future boss of course dont want ur little money, they just want ur time to work with him. u not his partner, u just his employee. U must know how to different the employee and partner.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO BE AN EMPLOYEE, HOW CAN YOU BE AN EMPLOYER?? IF YOU DON'T LEARN FROM THE BOTTOM, HOW CAN YOU GO TO THE TOP?? IF YOU DON'T BEGIN AS A SERVANT, HOW CAN YOU BE A MASTER? WHAT IS SO DIFFERENT IN SYN THAN OTHER 'TRADITIONAL' BUSINESS?? THERE ARE STILL TARGETS, THERE ARE STILL RULES, AND THERE ARE STILL FUCKED UP UPLINES CALLING YOU UP AND PRESSURING YOU TO CON THE NEXT UNSUSPECTING PUBLIC INTO THIS WHOLE CHARADE. WHAT IS SO DIFFERENT THEN???? AT LEAST MY BOSS DON'T CALL ME UP FOR BLOODY MEETINGS ON MY WEEKEND.

7) u know franchise or not? i also dont know. so i do know how to comment.

DON'T KNOW, DON'T PUT AS A POINT HERE FOR GOD SAKES....GO READ UP WIKIPEDIA OR A DICTIONARY.

8) in pyramid system, today u are "downline" but tomorrow u will be "upline" depend how u work hard.
Pyramid system need upline pull downline become upline, so he can start earn money. ur downline not earn money, u also not earn.

SAME LAH TRADITIONAL BUSINESS...IF I DON'T PERFORM, MY COMPANY DON'T EARN MONEY....WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE? I'M SCREWING UP THE ENTIRE OPERATIONS OF THE COMPANY IF I DON'T PERFORM. WE ARE ALL BUT SMALLER COGS TO BIGGER COGS.

9) recruit can used to hire employee and find suitable partner. if recruit employee, employee get money. if recruit partnet, partner will invest money and earn money.

PARTNER PUT IN MONEY, THEN EARN BACK WHAT THEY PUT IN THEN ONLY AFTER THAT THEY WILL EARN ABOVE WHAT THEY PUT IN ...IT'S NOT EVEN INVESTING. I PUT IN MONEY TO STOCK MARKET, MY STOCK BROKER WILL HANDLE ALL THE TRANSACTION FOR ME, I ONLY CALL TO SAY BUY OR SELL...THAT'S INVESTING. I PUT IN MONEY TO UNIT TRUST, MY FINANCIAL AGENT INVEST ACCORDING TO THE MOST PROFITABLE ACCOUNTS....THEN I DECIDE WHEN TO CASH IN OR PULL OUT, THAT'S INVESTING....I DON'T PUT IN WORK TO GET BACK MY OWN MONEY.. THAT'S INVESTING!!

10) most people scared saturated point, of course one day will happen. but u ask amway people, is they scared saturated point? theory said if 1 person find 5 people per day, 1 month all malaysian will know lampe berger, u ask urself is it already happen? is it all people know lampe berger?

DON'T POINT TO AMWAY...THEY ARE PUSHING PRODUCTS AND NOT RECRUITING PEOPLE. THEY HAVE OPTIONS TO RECRUIT, BUT THE RETURNS ARE NOT AS GOOD AS PUSHING PRODUCTS.

11) after saturated point they feel difficult to recruit people but they sell DCHL product more easily.

IRRELEVANT, DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT SHIT YOU ARE SAYING.

12) Is it people want used opportunity find money is greedy and endless. So all people is greedy, because they also find money and always said not enough money. MONEY IS NOT ANYTHING, BUT NO MONEY IS CAN NOT.

MONEY IS NOT EVERYTHING, BUT WITHOUT MONEY YOU CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING... CORRECT, BUT HOW DO YOU EARN YOUR MONEY??

13) U can jelous the to line, but u really know how they do it? is they catch opportunity as well and used it very well? u also can said they phsyco people, many people been physco can archieve they want. they can phsyco people, it mean they have certain skill, isnt it? if u stupid, u can phsyco people or not?

WHO? PROVE PLEASE. ALL THE TOP DUKES ARE RICH PEOPLE TO BEGIN WITH...WINSTON, THAT COFFEE BEAN WOMAN, WINNIE, MOK BLA BLA BLA...LET ME TELL YOU, A TRUE LEADER INSPIRES HIS PEOPLE AND NOT BRAINWASH THEM... HE EMPOWERS THEM TO MAKE DECISIONS FOR THE GOOD OF ALL AND NOT FOR HIMSELF. GO LEARN THAT.

14) In LB, always said give better life to family, financial freedom. Working can provide certain level of life, but they didnt have many choice. After they succeed they can have many choice.IS WAS LEVEL PROBLEM.

HAVE YOU TRIED HAVING A REAL JOB FOR ONCE? AND REALLY PUT IN EFFORT TO YOUR JOB? IN MY DAILY INTERACTIONS WITH SYNNERS, WHAT I FOUND OUT IS THAT MOST COULDN'T STAND THE NORMAL WORKING PRESSURES IN A TYPICAL WORKPLACE AND MOST ARE JUST LOW LEVEL EMPLOYEES AT THEIR WORKPLACE. YOU ARE MERELY LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE.

15) Many problem come from human error, not from company. is it company told them borrowfrom lintah darat?

SO YOU ARE SAYING THAT SYNNERS ARE REALLY SINNERS RIGHT? THEN WHAT IS THE COMPANY DOING TO CORRECT THIS? OOOPPSS....WRONG THING....SYN IS BUT A TEAM UNDER RZ/DCHL....SO TECHNICALLY SYN IS NOT THE COMPANY RIGHT?? SO WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE STRUCTURE OF THE ORGANIZATION YOU ARE PUTTING YOUR TIME AND ENERGY INTO??

16) RM30K very big, is it right? of course lah because we never earn 30k in our life.

YOU EITHER JUST STARTED WORKING, OR ARE AN UNDERPERFORMER IN YOUR COMPANY, THAT'S WHY YOU DON'T SEE RM30K IN YOUR LIFE. IF YOU JUST STARTED WORKING, GET REAL. UNLESS YOU HAVE A FAMILY BUSINESS OR GOOD CONNECTIONS YOU WILL NOT EARN RM30K IN A YEAR. MALAYSIAN MARKET FOR GRADUATES ARE RM1500 TO RM1800...THAT'S ECONOMICS.

IF YOU ARE AN UNDERPERFORMER, THEN OBVIOUSLY DON'T EXPECT VERY GOOD INCREMENT...OTHER BETTER PERFORMING DESERVES IT.

17) u just know some people quick study to do LB, but u know many people complete their study and do LB also.

SO? WHAT'S YOUR POINT? ARE PEOPLE WHO 'QUICK' STUDY AND COMPLETE STUDY DIFFERENT??

18)believes important in this business. Like u believe after graduate can get better job. if u dont believe ur course, u will quick at half way. many member didnt believe untill end, so they quick at half way.

YEAH, I BELIEVE I CAN FLY AND TOUCH THE SKY. BELIEVE IS GOOD IN RELIGION....BUT IN BUSINESS, IT'S COLD HARD DETERMINATION AND THE RIGHT DECISIONS...VAGUENESS NEVER BENEFIT ANY COMPANY

19) IF failed lost 30k (sometime 40k because loan interest), scared right? if succeed, how much earn?

AND YOU WERE SAYING IS IT COMPANY ASK PEOPLE TO TAKE LOAN???? YOU YOURSELVE ALSO KNOWS IT TO BE TRUE AND ACCEPTS IT, IF NOT WHY DID YOU BRING THIS UP??

20) This business not like investment, u must do hard also.

OK, SO WHAT WAS THAT SHIT ABOUT INVEST? ( YOUR POINT NUMBER 9...AND MY REPLY TO POINT NUMBER 9)

21) failed other business, not easy to restart because want invest more. LB failed, lost 30k, but whole life wait for u continues.no need top up ur invest amount.

OK, SO YOU GO AND LOSE RM30K OF YOUR OWN MONEY THEN....DON'T BORROW FROM BANK AND FRIENDS/FAMILY/RELATIVES....TELL ME IF YOU HAVE A LIFE WAITING FOR YOU.

22) u keep whole life LB product in store also can because they dont have expired date.

SO? AND YOUR POINT IS? DOES KEEPING LB PRODUCT WHOLE LIFE MAKES MONEY FOR ME? NO RIGHT?


23) Steven, nice blogg. Can keep try... give idea to our member to pre caution the bad thing and not repeat the wrong thing.

SO YOU ADMIT YOUR MEMBERS ARE DOING THE WRONG THING RIGHT? SO WHY DIDN'T YOU STOP?

24) THANKS to u post many important information. so we can keep improve ourself.

YOU GO INTO A BUSINESS WITHOUT FINDING OUT ANY IMPORTANT INFORMATION??? THEN YOU ARE PLANNING TO FAIL ISN'T IT?? IF YOU HAVE TO DEPEND ON AN ANTI SYN BLOG TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION, THEN TELL ME, WHY ARE YOU INVESTING IN A COMPANY THAT ISN'T PROVIDING INFORMATION FOR YOU TO EARN BACK YOUR MONEY?? PATHETHIC AMATEURS...

25) Sorry for any incovinience.

YOU BETTER BE....I WROTE THIS COMMENT FROM BEING DRUNK AND HIGH, TO SOBER AND PISSED OFF...

1:42 PM  
Anonymous jack lim said...

Dear Cat,

i just wanna reply ur number 6 answer.i am directly under my boss.yes i am a worker.but u?u are under and under and under steven yeam.so who are u?slaves?grand slaves?or great grand slaves who earn money for ur SYN.when u are slave u have no right and voice to talk to Us.We are higher post than u.

10:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nightlord: are u have brain?

11:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cat: u too srupid, u are human, how can u talk to animal bernard, jack lim and nightlord? no need talk too much just give them seeds to eat enough.

11:15 PM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

"HAVE YOU TRIED HAVING A REAL JOB FOR ONCE? AND REALLY PUT IN EFFORT TO YOUR JOB? IN MY DAILY INTERACTIONS WITH SYNNERS, WHAT I FOUND OUT IS THAT MOST COULDN'T STAND THE NORMAL WORKING PRESSURES IN A TYPICAL WORKPLACE AND MOST ARE JUST LOW LEVEL EMPLOYEES AT THEIR WORKPLACE. YOU ARE MERELY LOOKING FOR AN EXCUSE"

The best comment EVAR!

11:56 PM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

Anon,

You talked like a pondan. It explains why you don't even have the balls to post with a real nick but hiding behind a veil. Pathetic.

12:00 AM  
Blogger jackal said...

i suppose that the sentence should be:

do u have brain? or
are u having a brain?

besides, what is "srupid"? new word in english? haha, the 1 who cant even spell stupid is called as srupid.

3:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so much time spent to talk like shit here. jack lim, u too srupid (stupid not enough for u)

4:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anthraxxx and nightlord blogg just con people, phsyco people

4:25 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

to anon,

yes, i do have a brain. one that can function even when drunk and reply to each of the 25 points that cat brought up at 4am in the morning.

unfortunately for you, you have a brain but do not know how to use it. by replying like that, i place cat on a higher level of intelligence and etiquette than you, you brainless whelp.

and about the seeds, monkey see, monkey do....so do you want some seeds or not? email to me, i'll buy you a container load of seeds, your snivelling faggot.

p/s: if you do not understand what i just mentioned, go get a dictionary, 'srupid'.

4:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

bernard once again prove u stupid fucker brain. just give to dog eat.

4:27 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

anon, mail me asshole....

i want to talk to you personally.

let me show you your brain...and how you should be using it.

4:30 AM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

just ignore the ghost.Typical LB kidz.show how LB kidz real self.show to public they just wanna ur money.when u say no money in thier heart they will say This P is once again prove u stupid fucker brain. just give to dog eat.

4:39 AM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

when u cant invest rm 45k they will say- (once again prove u stupid fucker brain. just give to dog eat) in thier heart.

4:41 AM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

Uhhh I do not blog to con people. I was merely writing comments. But I do know you need to con people to survive. That's your living utopia. I dont pyscho people either but I can be quite a psychopath when I'm really mad.

7:54 AM  
Blogger SSaturn said...

Ni9htl0rd : Cool Down :)

Few Point to Shot at

16) RM30K very big, is it right? of course lah because we never earn 30k in our life.

YOU NUTS? YOU WORK IN INDIA? OR AFRICA? LOW COST LABOUR IN MALAYSIA? PEOPLE WHO WASH TOILET LET SAY EARN RM 300 PER MONTH

RM 300 X 12 MONTHS = RM 3,600
RM 3600 X 10 YERAS = RM 36,000

HOW DARE YOU SAY NEVER EARN RM 30K IN OUR LIFE?

21) failed other business, not easy to restart because want invest more. LB failed, lost 30k, but whole life wait for u continues.no need top up ur invest amount.

WHAT U MEAN NOT EASY TO RESTRAT? LET ME TELL YOU, PPL WHO FAILED MANY TIME IN THEIR BUSINESS THEY LEARN FROM THEIR MISSTAKE AND GAIN EXPIRINCE TO PREVENT FAIL AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. AND THIS IS WHAT MAKE A BUSINESSMAN SUCCESS ALSO.

22) u keep whole life LB product in store also can because they dont have expired date.

I BETTER KEEP MY RM 30,000 IN MY BANK LET IT GROW. :) DUN TELL ME UR LB PRODUCT CAN SMALL LB JUNIOR?

Hope my point can helps.

9:23 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

word up, anthraxxxx..

don't test my patience, SYNners....or i'll show you the meaning of true terror...

you can screw me up in this blog...but i'll screw you SYNners in real life....because you don't know who i am....

9:25 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

ssaturn,

peace brother...thumbs up.

9:28 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

Nightlord,

Great Post !! I don't even read that cat's message after point 2.
She is simply unethical to mention those things.

Steven,

Can you please copy that long message and paste into the LowYat forum for all to share. Such a helpful post deserve more readers.

11:45 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

Cat,

How could anyone sell the products when the business gets stagnant or saturated when you know it very well it cannot even sell now ?

How could it sell easily in Malaysia at 3 or 4 times the prices in Europe or U.S. when after 100 over years and yet not many people use it.

Since you know how the business works, have conscience and stop it. Don't victimise more people.
If you don't have a heart with some conscience, at least have a proper brain. THINK. Is it worth selling off your own friends and reputation for those money ?

11:53 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

Cat,

How could anyone sell the products when the business gets stagnant or saturated when you know it very well it cannot even sell now ?

How could it sell easily in Malaysia at 3 or 4 times the prices in Europe or U.S. when after 100 over years and yet not many people use it.

Since you know how the business works, have conscience and stop it. Don't victimise more people.
If you don't have a heart with some conscience, at least have a proper brain. THINK. Is it worth selling off your own friends and reputation for those money ?

11:53 AM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

hi, b4 i say anything, i'm a peaceful person who just wanna give some facts and truths... ^_^

1st of all, for your info, yes i agree tat such MLM are MOSTLY not gonna work... and it posses HIGH risk in losing your "invested" money...

hm... let's talk about past MLM... my personal experience, i tried one few years ago... & of coz, it didnt work & i lost my money... well, why am i silly enough to accept this MLM?? for your info, i used ~RM450... actually, it's risky & no guarranty, bcoz tat company is from US & they dont have any registered company in Malaysia or any MLM License~... some more i didnt even have chance to face to face meet my up-liners... nor they have any office to visit~...

and one of the most important thing is, i just give that money to them & i only get a diskette containing my membership & account info... hah... its really insane, right?? they can just run away with my money & i can do nth to save it~...

well... its my lesson for taking up any MLM again...

but not until now, i'd realise that MLM is actually huge topic... its the same as cryptogaphy(encryption)... its a simple topic but huge topic... why did i say so? bcoz as for crypto, it can be a diff between a lousy 5mins-to-crack-encryption and strong almost-impossible-to-crack-encryption, & its depending on the algorithm u created!

my point here is to tell u that in one point of view, u can say crypto is lousy... but in another point of view, u can say crypto is the best for this century! its just a matter of which algorithm u use!

so, my above e.g. is to stress that, MLM has lots of stradegies & formulas too... its NOT ALL MLM is such a lousy one, such a sure-gonna-fail thing to do...

how can we know if one of the MLM company is worth trying & there's nothing much to lose?

its actually easy... we just get back to the basis... the very basis... -> our common sense, fact & truth, and lastly, stradegies...

i'd given u my personal experience in MLM few years ago rgd tat ~RM450 investment... so now i'll just get straight to DCHL...

well, 1st of all, we are all afraid of losing our 'invested' money, right? hm... so here... we'll discuss on how to make sure we are not losing much.. of coz, there's a bit of losing, u lose things for doing something, its nature... but its the AMOUNT-TO-LOSE versus WORTH-TO-TRY that matters~... am i right? i'm applying this to everything in our life...

so, lets see... (my fren is one of DCHL members, so i get to know detailed things about it, but dont critisize me now, if u're right about wat u say, u wont afraid to listen 1st & critisize me later~)

1st, i agree on most things that u guys are discussing here... yes, they need lump sum of money to get started...

positions:
franchise - RM2,500 - 20% benefit
Baron - RM9,000 - 29% benefit
Count - RM30,000 - 39% benefit
etc...

wow! it LOOKS soooo much as for joining a MLM!

ya... i know... but u know, part of the money, only RM150 is a paid money, for RM70 is starting membership & RM80 is starter kit...

so, i believe u know the rest is for wat, right? ya, its actually for exchange of some goods... depends on which position u take, u'll get to CHOOSE the quantity & type of products that value will total up to (for e.g. franchise position) RM2,350... so, actually u dont just give them those money for nothing... u receives your goods...

i dont say MLM is just about investing money... i'll say it as a trading, a sales... a basic sale just like sales in the store... why? bcoz did u realise, actually u are the FIRST buyer! so, just bcoz of this, they r not tat easy-to-be illegal...

and what they are called? they r not called members, they are called 'distributors'... and it sounds true, am i right? they are the one who get the goods 1st, then they sale it to other people... the only diff is they using MLM methods to sell... so, it make it more 'legal'...

i know, u r saying its just an excuse for letting this MLM thing lives on~... well, its true if u say it this way... but lets just put our hate/dislike/watever aside, & we think about it the logic & fact way...

(for e.g., we can say businessman are cheaters/killers, but we also can say they are doing business by how business should be done... they tried their best to follow the laws & i believe they did, so why are some people saying businessman are bad guys? dont trust them so easily?? well, its just how u see things...actually...)

human mind sometimes gets a bit loosely due to affect by environments, rumours, people around us, our own experiences, etc... so, sometimes when we need to deal on some unresolved matters, we need to stay calm & use the most secure way to think, which is by 'logic/fact' & 'common sense/truth'...

so, back to the story... after u joined & become one of the 'distributors', u get your 1st piece of goods... the good thing about DCHL is, they NOT ONLY have lampe berger, they have some other valuable products, such as estebel, red wine(coming next mth), 5-7star spa, IT(such as VoIP,laptop with IBM in future,etc)... which means, u can choose over all these products to 'sell'... u're not stressed to take lampe berger~... which means, (since u guys tot lampe berger is not gonna sell, no one will wanna buy it) u can totally dont take lampe berger, u can take red wine if u want, DCHL bot the red wine company, its a 100+ years company... the product value is strong & stable... there's a lot of people who drink red wine, so wats the lose? when u go pub/disco buying red wine, do u really care which brand they give u?? do u really always ask for the brand that u love?? if they dont have, u'll still take it, right?? & did i only mention red wine? ha... u got other products if u dont want totally go into red wine...

(let me remind u, i'm NOT going against u guys saying lampe berger is not gonna sell... i'm just talking about the possibility of MLM works for some of them, such as DCHL)

so, up till here... dont u feel its actually secure enough for u to try investing in such biz??

hm... u might ask, they must have some limitation which makes u insecure... i know, i asked this myself too... so, i investigate further... i realise that they are actually quite loose on their requirements, actually they dont have one, they only have advice, where they advice u to find 5 preferably-close-person & u actually can stop by there(but u wont earn enough for u to buy a car)... and they dont limit u with timeframe~... they didnt say u must find N people to join or your membership will forfeit... they give u forever to find 1-N people... if u dont look for any, they wont forfeit your membership, as long as u renew every year... oh, u must be guessing the renewal is expensive... well, its only a RM30.... ha... its only RM2.50/mth~...

so, wats the lose for trying DCHL? ya, i know u hate their lampe berger, but u can dont even touch it in your life but still doing fine in DCHL...

well... still, if u r afraid of not selling your goods, there's a goood thing about DCHL... u can be your partner's sponsor! wat do i mean? rmb when u 1st join DCHL, u need to get some goods tat valued to your investment?? u know... those goods can be directly from your up-liners! which means, after u found one person who decide to join under u, u can just take your goods & give them! and u keep that money they give u! which means, if u 1st join is 'Baron'(where u got RM8,850 worth of products) & got one friend wanna join u as a 'Franchise'(where he'll get RM2,250 worth of goods), u'll just give him YOUR goods, & YOU keep that RM2,250! in another words, you HAD JUST MADE YOUR BIG SALE! of how much? RM2,250! wow!

isnt it EASY to sell?? so what's the point of caring if lampe berger will anyone buys it or not?? u can just pass it to your parnters~...

well... u might think those up-liners might sabotage u~... but dont worry, under DCHL u're one of the big family, they'll always help u if u have any difficulties, why?? bcoz their income depends on how their network grows~... so if u not doing well, they lose out! so they will definitely help u~... its great~... so u'll not worry if u can do it or not...

hm... u might now be thinking, well... it's worth a try~...

hm... another thing, they have offices around asia... so just dont worry if they gonna cheat your money~... haha... but they wont anyway... if they do, they're gonna close down very soon... ^_^

and ya, one thing about finding people, u can find anyone from around the asia... NOT ONLY the state where u are living... for e.g. u live in malaysia, then u went to aust to visit your fren & u intro DCHL to him & he decide to join! then dont worry, u can just bring him to DCHL office in Aust to register! & you're done! he doesnt need to fly back Malaysia with u just to join u... :) so, its flexible enough~...

ha... got one more secure benefits for u... IF... u just cant make it, not sure why but u just didnt make it... so, wat we gonna do with the products u get?? its few thousands worth of goods! "OMG!" u'll scream! but dont worry... why? coz they allow u to return the goods! & gets back 90% of the money~...

which means, for a 'Franchise', u get back RM2115 cash for your failed biz... hm... well, its just barely RM200+ lost(other than membership & starter kit)...

u know, its a lot lesser risk than my 1st MLM investment i mentioned at the begining~... i lost ~RM450 for investing ~RM450... its a 100% lost... hm... for DCHL, its just some 10% lost IF U REALLY REALLY CANT FIND ANYONE JOINING U... hm... but to me, its quite easy to get people to join DCHL, why? coz to the fact, its really worth the try & its working! my friends's sis(DCHL member) are driving BMW, she joined only 1yr+! wow... its a good investment~...

BUT! aboveall, i'd a best advice for u doing anything, including MLM... - "money dont drop from sky! watever u do, it pays to get the results!"

so, i mean... even u doing MLM, u'll need to work hard for it... u cant expect the money rolling in by just having some mocha at starbucks with friends...

for a very very close & good e.g. for how MLM job goes... do u know insurance agents?? how they perform their job?? ah... its the same way as MLM~... ^_^ the only diff is, u no need to wake up everyday at 6-7am to attend a daily meeting/briefing... and also, u no need to meet any target set by your boss... oops, you're the BOSS doing DCHL MLM! u can perform any kind of working environment & rules as u like... coz its YOUR own biz, your own network afterall!

one more thing, they got payslip issued to you every month, so its a legal job~... u receive EPF payments too~... ^_^

well... if u're unclear on any part, please feel free to email me at godtrix@yahoo.com (please put a "DCHL-JB06" in your subject, so if unluckily it went to junk, i still can easily search it out)

2:19 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

Godtrix,

i don't know what to say...but i think you're going get flamed real bad...because every point you've brought up has already been debunked.

it's not about the products (LB,estebel bla bla bla)...it's about SYN....(or DCHL for that matter)...it's not about the features of the products...it's the unethical way that they approach people to sign up and join instead of seriously promoting the product. Seriously, if i wanna see my product sell...i wouldn't want too many people selling the same product...right?

And yeah, so if i'm offloading my products to my downline( in the even i can't sell a single damn thing), can i say that i actually sold something? or rather, spread my liability to somebody else?

final comment..MLM has its strong and weak points...just like any traditional business method...retailing, franchising ( and MLM is NOT franchising), services etc...MLM is no longer the new wave...it's just another method to run your business..so you say it's legal and legit...true. Agree. In this case, i'm gunning for SYN to come down...that's all. I have my target..and i'm not shooting blind.

5:55 PM  
Anonymous TEH POWAH said...

Godtrix Wong,

It's pretty obvious you're part of this SYN group so don't be embarassed about it. ("My FRIEND is DCHL member...", lol)

As nightlord has said, we pretty covered everything you've got to say.

Please at least take the time to run through the whole blog before repeating the same old, same old.

Just one thing I would like to point out. When I was there they told me I didn't have to buy or sell anything! They guy just said "Go and get 5 water fish and all will be right in this world!"

Now you guys are saying will be buying worthless, old and used lampes from the uplines? Then disposing said stock to my downlines? Excuse me, I'm not that stupid and unethical to be purchasing old stocks and then dumping them to someone else.

6:30 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

to anon and cat: I got 4 words for both of u....

GO AND FUCK YOURSELF!!!

U call me animal?Animal can hunt their prey for food.Since I'm animal and u r my prey rite? So,u prepare to be my dinner tonite!

8:55 PM  
Blogger Dexter said...

godtrix,

I gave up reading your message halfway, you are just beating around the bush like a well trained SINner speak.

Let me ask you, why should anyone lose RM150 to them ?(putting the remainder amount as stock as you put it). Any why should anyone lose further from RM5 to RM100 for each meeting attended ?

Why should anyone trust their cosmetics or their red wine when their claims of the fragrance LB products are mostly fake ?

Why should anyone trust such an unethical Company ? If a Company is PROVED to be dirty or unethical, I will never trust or consume their products.

So what if the REd Wine Company is over 100 years in France. That is France, the product bought here could be of a different value, doctored, inferior value or over-priced.

Please visit my blog, and the many others and those mentioned in Low Yat forum or my questions in my last post. Your long message may fool some new SYNners but not those who have read our previous messages. I am not saying you are not honest. Maybe you are taught so without really understanding. Since you put up your face and I don't think you are the confirmed cunning or incurable type like some SINners, hope you can take some good advice from others.

Don't just believe that a frog inside a well understand the well better just like LB members are trained to speak so. People outside the well can understand the world better also the well better too.

Have conscience or at least use your brain. As you mentioned, not all MLM are bad, Choose a better one if you must do MLM. Why choose this one which has bad record ? Do you know their HK and Taiwan is already down ? Singapore also down for years. Among the early countries, Malaysia is their only surviving one.

LB people also train their members to look for at least 15 people in order to get 1. If you are intelligent, why do such a TOUGH business ? Why victimise others ?

9:12 PM  
Blogger Dexter said...

I should say, why lose your reputation to 15 friends and manage to recruit only 1.
Is it worth ?

9:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to bernard: u already prove urself be SON OF PUBLIC PHONE. too pitty ur mother.... u ambressing ur whole generation...alway like to said FUCK (so dirty ur mouth)

12:44 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

to anony above: Excuse me,..I dun use public phone ok? U SOHAI!!!
TIU LEI LOU MOU!

1:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to bernard: so cute u. always diu diu sound.

2:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to jackal: another genius, but still do nothing. phsyco people only.

2:32 AM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

Hello Godtrix or who ever you are.

These are the problem with SYNNERS. They don't listen. Whenever we are debating about a specific issue, they tend to evade the question, strayed out of the topic and in the end, they always gave us irrelevant answers. The issue is not about people who are afraid of losing money. Its the unethical method on how they encourage their downlines to part with your family's hard earn money.

If you read carefully, the main reason we despise SYN so much is their psychological method they imposed on their downlines to get money from their family members and these often falls into the graduates and school kids category. A girl threaten to prostitute herself when her mother refuse to loan her the money, Steven Yip's brother had a huge fight with his family because of the money and I had gotten into a huge row with my friends because of LB. So what's next?

I need to stress that when I was disagreeing the ideas of my LB friends presented, I was not neither hostile nor I was rude to them when I rebuked their arguments. Every thing was done in the most civil way as possible and in the end, they were the one who turned aggresive, show hostility to me, called me stupid, insulted my "negative" opinion which are debated mostly on facts and even accused me of "looking down" on them.

You may deny these allegations by saying SYN has never encourage their members in practicing such dirty methods but it's like an old malay saying "siapa makan cili, dia lah yang rasa pedas" and you can choose to be ignorant. I don't need to tell you more, the points has been repeated in this blog and none of you seem to be able to provide concrete answers until now.

Most of my experience are similar to many of the victims and those who are indirectly affected by this evil SYN cultist. Therefore I will continue to do my part in creating awareness no matter how long it takes. It msy not benefit myself but at least it benefits the society in the long run.

Last but not least, please read carefully before commenting or else it will be like what nightlord says, you are going to get flamed real hard and it will save yourself from looking like an idiot. These are what you SYNNERS really need to learn, seriously.

2:42 AM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

To Bernard7:-

Chill dude. No point arguing with morons.

2:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh...gosh! cat, really need to attend for english classes. ;b by the way, i want to know is there any way to say NO to those LBs??
hmp, i have this friend (LB member) ask me out last night and said he left his wallet at home, but very hungry want to have dinner. mana tau, he expect me to pay for his food. I swear!! i won't go out with him anymore.. Is it all LBs also very stingy huh?? OMG!!

5:42 AM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

what causes LB kiddo to be stingy?

1)invest 30k or 45 k but yet to get back thier modal after so many years.
2)need money to yum cha with Prospect but Wont pay for Prospect.
3)borrow money from parent and friends,bank, ah long, so need to pay back.
4)too many training need money.eg NDO, biz preview, Yuor life, product training
5) book table need money(if i still remember is rm 100).LB kiz correct me on this plz:)
6)maintenance
7)endless dinner, clubing, Home party to fish for P
8)transportation Fee( LRT, KTM, motobike, car)-surprise many of LB kidz take KTM, LRT
9)rental for BMW which is a tool for cheating P
10)loan for BMW.
11)guess they wont give their parent money because they borrow from parent.i just can say they return it like rm 20 per month to parent.
12)car park at HLA tower need money.
13)car park opposite HLA is rm 3 per entry
14)Hakka restaurant charge u bloody high price for food.And even the waiter there look down On LB kidz

hehehehe.SYNer, right?dont scold me cos i was one of u all last last time.but now, i learn a lesson and now i go against it.one day U will thank me for my advice.quit b4 they suck u till bone.dont say i think negatively.say i anaylase logically.hehehe

5:59 AM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

what causes LB kiddo to be stingy?

1)invest 30k or 45 k but yet to get back thier modal after so many years.
2)need money to yum cha with Prospect but Wont pay for Prospect.
3)borrow money from parent and friends,bank, ah long, so need to pay back.
4)too many training need money.eg NDO, biz preview, Yuor life, product training
5) book table need money(if i still remember is rm 100).LB kiz correct me on this plz:)
6)maintenance
7)endless dinner, clubing, Home party to fish for P
8)transportation Fee( LRT, KTM, motobike, car)-surprise many of LB kidz take KTM, LRT
9)rental for BMW which is a tool for cheating P
10)loan for BMW.
11)guess they wont give their parent money because they borrow from parent.i just can say they return it like rm 20 per month to parent.
12)car park at HLA tower need money.
13)car park opposite HLA is rm 3 per entry
14)Hakka restaurant charge u bloody high price for food.And even the waiter there look down On LB kidz

hehehehe.SYNer, right?dont scold me cos i was one of u all last last time.but now, i learn a lesson and now i go against it.one day U will thank me for my advice.quit b4 they suck u till bone.dont say i think negatively.say i anaylase logically.hehehe

6:01 AM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

what causes LB kiddo to be stingy?

1)invest 30k or 45 k but yet to get back thier modal after so many years.
2)need money to yum cha with Prospect but Wont pay for Prospect.
3)borrow money from parent and friends,bank, ah long, so need to pay back.
4)too many training need money.eg NDO, biz preview, Yuor life, product training
5) book table need money(if i still remember is rm 100).LB kiz correct me on this plz:)
6)maintenance
7)endless dinner, clubing, Home party to fish for P
8)transportation Fee( LRT, KTM, motobike, car)-surprise many of LB kidz take KTM, LRT
9)rental for BMW which is a tool for cheating P
10)loan for BMW.
11)guess they wont give their parent money because they borrow from parent.i just can say they return it like rm 20 per month to parent.
12)car park at HLA tower need money.
13)car park opposite HLA is rm 3 per entry
14)Hakka restaurant charge u bloody high price for food.And even the waiter there look down On LB kidz

hehehehe.SYNer, right?dont scold me cos i was one of u all last last time.but now, i learn a lesson and now i go against it.one day U will thank me for my advice.quit b4 they suck u till bone.dont say i think negatively.say i anaylase logically.hehehe

6:01 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

hahaha....what clubbing???

i don't think they'll have the money to pay the cover charge or parking....what clubbing?? heck, even home party also have to pay....and pay for the prospect somemore.....#$%^&*(

i was in a club....and i saw a few guys who i know are SYN people...they've got that blasted SYN pin on their shirts....( besides...who goes to a club in long sleeved office shirts???...at least roll up your sleeves...blend in you fool...)and they just looked dumb there...coz they had no drinks....and just stood around looking at other people..one was a prospect...he was the only one with a drink....and he bought it himself..

9:21 AM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

haha... ya, thanks for replies...
but 1st of all, i'm not one of them... maybe just not yet... or maybe never... its still far from saying...

but, u know... i understands the whole thing... things tat u guys are advicing, discussing, etc... i know its kinda unethical if u say so... i know their company has been 'blacklisted' by all anti-lb guys here...

but... dont u think most big companies had all done some unethical methods/ways to earn money(where they're still legal)?

for the big big company such as Microsoft, dont u think, its just the same case compare with DCHL? but why are u still using MS products since u say u wont take any product from unethical/bad company?

its not only MS, there's lots of companies are doing all those unethical way of biz... even a small food store just down the street also performing unethical method, just to earn more money... for e.g. adding lots of unhealthy products just to make it more delicious so u'll come again...

there's too many of them... so, why are u just targeting MLM? i understand... u cant torlerate them earning sooo much money for performing such practice... i cant too! i get jealous too! but wat can we do? nothing much, coz its legal biz they are performing... its just like all other biz, they continues even though we know clearly that they are performing unethical biz...

there's once, the chairman of one large device manufacturer said, "Mp3 songs are growing, breaking the copyrights laws... but we cant stop them! So, the only way is to JOIN them in order to win... that's why we are investing in developing MP3 players!"
(i forgot which company's chairman or watever said it... i think is sony or apple or watever)

so, wat i mean is, MLM is not going to die off, its one of the biz method, biz method wont die just like tat~... biz method only gets revolution year by year... so, there's no way we can fight against it as long as its legal...

thats why, i'm trying to say... since we cant fight it, we join it... we adopt it, we use it! dont waste such method... u know, i say this in the biz point of view...

unless i want to say it in personal point of view, i'll say MLM go to hell!

its the same as P2P technology... in biz point of view, we say P2P is bad! affecting our sales! its unethical to download free!! but in personal point of view, we say P2P is exellence! long life P2P!

u get what i mean? i'm not against what u guys say... but i'm not against what MLM will produce too...

why not everone can success in MLM? just bcoz MLM is very tricky... and actually hard to work... its not as easy as they say... ya, u just need to get ppl to join and tats it... but its the part where u wanna get someone to join - is very hard! and to maintain it is even harder!

its the same as insurance, if u had done insurance b4, u'll definitely understand how difficult it is to get people to listen & believe that insurance is the best thing ever to buy... bla bla bla... its the same method for MLM~... so, i ask u, is it everybody has the potential to be a insurance agent? no~... as wat i believe... its not that easy to be a insurance agent... so do MLM syners~...

wat i try to say is, its not tat everyone also can do well in MLM... thats why there's a lot of people who failed and lose the invested money... its NOT bcoz MLM is just a scam... its the person who joins doesnt has the talent to do it... or they do it the wrong way... but u can finally work it out if u are really hardworking~... so its not easy to go for MLM...

those syners had mislead a lot of people just to get them join them... they always say its very easy to do, even a kid can do it... but no, its not true! u need real skills like those insurance agents to really work in MLM...

well... hope u'll see the picture of wat i'm trying to 'draw'...

good luck! ^_^

12:04 PM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

anthraxxxx: oh... its sad to hear tat those syners are out of their mind~... they should be honest to how MLM goes... and i'm surely against people advicing others to get money from their parents or whoever! shit them! how could they suggest such shameful thing to people?? omg~...

haiz... no wonder MLM's reputation goes real bad...

12:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

godtrix is definitely from SYN, the start of his post is trying to cover everything up but his arguements are one sided. at least we dont see things like he does.... if it is so good like he says why not he joins it anyway?

5:59 PM  
Anonymous dan said...

He is making the arguments of other companies are unethical also, so what is the difference from LB.

Godtrix..

You may think it is a good business model..
Believe me, it is not..
Especially not in the long run..

The business model is only good for the company.
Not for the masses of the distributor.
Just think the distributor is where income comes from to the company.

DISTRIBUTOR=CUSTOMER of the company, where the sales come in.
Small percentage of sales go back to the distributor.

People are being duped to be business owners, where as they are playing the part of customer of the company.

7:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are many bad companies in the world. But this is the most highest scam investment(mostly emphasise on 30k/45k) and the most innocent victims (mainly Young student or young adults) in MLM that i have ever seen so far in my life in Malaysia!

10:28 PM  
Blogger SSaturn said...

Godtrix Wong:

MS: You can choose you wan to use their product or not, if u dun u can turn to Linux if you want. Even let say MS are doing unethical trade, have you realize that nowdays MS are investing money to AIDS cure research, Education, Biotech researh and some more? And have u mark the word from Bill gate himself saying : "When you get the welth, then you have the responsible to do something to tthe world (is time to do charity)". I know MS History, they steal the idea of apple OS and "Rewrite" it to Windows and ship to Japan (NEC). We use the MS Product, bcoz it is easy to use, we been trained to use MS Product, so what?

small food store: What unethical thing? AJINOMOTO? I am sure that you dont have much knowledge about cooking. :)

MLM: WE ARE NOT SAYING MLM IS A BAD IDEA !!!! WE ARE SAYING SYN YOU MORON!!!! READ ALL OUR POST THEN BARU POST LA!!!!

10:31 PM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

Oh my. Here we go again.

11:53 PM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

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11:54 PM  
Blogger Allan Gan said...

to blog author : you are doing a great job. Keep up the good work. Your hard work is appreciated. Lots of my friend survive from this disaster because of you and lampebergerhelp.

to godtrix: if you are think unethical is ok for u, thats fine. Congratulation. U are the second person after keith email that makes me to write. I'm a lazy person. back to topic, MS is unethical, but just RM 310. Not 30k and giving false hope to the people that they can earn a lot. In fact MS do help a lot of people to earn money by creating such a good software. Only people dont realize it and say its unethical. But not in SYN. Look back the cases in Lampebergerhelp and anti lampeberger. Why only SYN aka DCHL only been attacked ? Because they are doing the wrong way. Bluff old people money, bluff kampong people money, bluff teenager money, crack family affair. I have seen that. If u say unethical is a way of business, then if one day u have been robbed or been ragut, dont report police as they are trying to survive by unethical way. No need to reply me back as u know I'm lazy to write, unless u are a girl. I'm not anti lampe berger, just dont like the way they do business. If the do business like Tupperware MLM, focus on product then I think is good. One more thing, if you not yet join SYN, Join them invest 30 K. I give you moral support. Just u. U r the man.... To other people DONT join SYN. They are the MAFIA of MLM.

MORAL of the STORY : unethical is good for godtrix. JOIN SYN If you like to be treated unethically.

12:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

awareness need to be sent to penang. they are having a seminar there i guess.

12:54 AM  
Anonymous I made Steven Yeam's wife pregnant said...

What the bashing about Insurance? At least we are helping people to get protection for the wealth. We pay them return for their premium too. We can be catergories at SKIM LAMBAT KAYA TAPI PASTI KAYA.

What have Lampe Berger ever done to help the people? Invest 30k and still have to work for so called "unlimited wealth?" there is no such things you idiot, SYNners.

Using 30k to buy 10000 lottery tickets have more chances to succeed than Lampe Berger.

So you GODTRIX WONG YIN MING, shut your hole. You are just another Lampe Berger goons trying to beat around the bush comparing Lampe Berger to every other company out there. Lampe Berger is a menace to society and I hate idiots like them driving a BMW and keeps promoting it.

Its making my BMW losing its prestige.

1:02 AM  
Anonymous carlson said...

Comparing MLM or Lampe Berger in this matter to insurance is the stupidest damn thing I have ever listen to.

First of all, every business is about promoting your product. You need to meet people and explain the importance of it.

However in the case of Lampe Berger, they have no product to promote and you SYNners can't hide that as a fact. They don't sell the product, they sell that pathetic parasite lifestyle of owning a BMW they can't afford.

Godtrix, you mention about red wine and people just order anyone without thinking of knowing the brand. You must have not a clue when you talk about red wine. If there would be a market for red wine they would people who knows how to appreciate it. Consumer is not a naive as you think.

I seriously dont think IBM is letting Lampe berger destroy their name. What kind of customer support LB kids whose mostly quited school or quited selling dvd can provide? NONE.

And I love what "I Made Steven Yeam's wife pregnant" say, Lampe Berger is really making BMW losing its prestige.

1:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

godtrix the way you talk as if customers are 100% sure to purchase all the items on LB. WHat about debating like a lawyer? You have no point i think. Customers are not naive nor have no common sense. We dont just buy because its on the market. There must be a need for it, and pricing must be build based on whether the product is intensive, specialty or exclusive. The only reason you prob wanted this arguement was that so everyone could view your blog and you'll become famous not because you want to debate like a lawyer. Your points are one sided, and you know nothing about the business world. this MLM may seem to work because its a scam!

5:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Godtrix, your blog does sucks. It is written like a sissy.

7:07 AM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

Anony: sori, i'm not one of them... u see, the problem with most people is, they wont accept the truth when people are saying the truth... people tends to CHOOSE what to believe or not believe...
we have to accept the truth even if we're not willing to...

its not tat i want to 'sound' like i'm just helping on one side~... i'm just trying to make this balance... all of you here are against it, so i'm just trying to balance the discussion... if no one stands out to give some feedback on the majority here, then there's no way a matter will ever resolve, in the right way...

u see, why are organizations recommend feedbacks?? bcoz they can improve it, they can understand things that they didnt even thought about during their meetings in their air-con office~... this is the reason why i want to give all the feedbacks on your discussions here... i'm just trying to help clear things out the right way -> with truth and facts... not with assumptions...

to tell u the truth, i say positive things here on MLM with all anti-lb guys... BUT i counter-attack with my friends(those syners) went talking to them rgd MLM... i tell u this, coz i want u to know i'm not standing on either side... i'm just trying to balance this out, i dont wish, in the end, one of the side gets crashed just bcoz of incorrect assumptions done by majority...

and... ya, why not i join them? ok, i tell u... i just started my own biz here in jb, i'm quite short of funds for my own biz already... so i have to reserve each cents for my own biz... but after my biz is on track... i'll jump to MLM soon... just not now... maybe next year... see how my own biz goes...



dan: did i say MLM is good in the long run? i, too, reminded my friends(syners) that never take MLM biz as their full time job~... why? coz it dont last! it only last for few years... so, u still need to have backup jobs or biz to cover when MLM biz close down... its great to earn as much as u can with MLM then later get back to your own biz or job... MLM is just like a 2nd income, it'll never be your main income...


another Anony: i know there's a lot of people who failed in this MLM... but there's also a lot of youngsters aging 18-21 who are earning 4-5 digits each months! its just the matter of skills and attitude towards the job - MLM...

let me ask u, a normal biz, common biz... does everyone who starts their own biz will surely success?? its the fact and truth that there's thousands of new biz each year, and also thousands of biz close down each year... since doing biz is so much risk, but why are there still sooo many people rather try it then avoiding it?? its the same thing... MLM is just another biz, nothing much different with other biz... all are biz... its just the method of biz and field of biz is different...

if u dont believe there's people who success in MLM (including students), then please take a time and go their office and see it for yourself... those in the office explaining things to those newcomers are all earning 4-5 digits every mths... i went to the office and see young guys & gals who's one of those earning a lot... its the truth already... why are we escaping the truth?


SSaturn: i didnt say u cant choose linux... when i ask "why still using MS product?" is bcoz dexter said...
"Why should anyone trust such an unethical Company ? If a Company is PROVED to be dirty or unethical, I will never trust or consume their products."

and please... for god sake, please dont bring up those companies who are doing all those charity thing... its just a method in biz point of view, a method to get people continue to trust them & have hope in them & tot that they are not that bad afterall...

please, let me ask u... can i hit u on purpose and say sorry? if yes, then i had nothing much to say... :)

and btw, yes i dont know much about cooking... but i know clearly whats unhealthy! and whats unethical to do to our food when u know clearly its totally not healthy! its not only AJINOMOTO... there's once of cases in kuching mostly, those lok-lok stores use plastics on their lok-lok to fry it, so it'll taste more crispy!!! its been tested & verified by the health ministry! this is just one of all unethical biz methods...

and u mind your words, i know its about syn! btw, syn is just another definition on MLM... its the way MLM works... which MLM is not by syn? please tell me, coz i'm interest in tat~...


Allan Gan: the amount is not the matter... if a guy go rob 7-eleven versus a guy robbing a bank, so wat its big case or small case... they are all guilty...

and please... RM310 - MS? hm.. dont u realise your RM310 has to multiply when new version takes over the old one? so in the long run, u still have to spend lots of money on it... and please be clear on DCHL, they didnt ask u to invest that 30k~... its just an option for you, u can choose the lowest - RM2500... and u wont need to invest anymore after that in your life...

ya, i agree that those syners are giving some false info and misleading them... doing MLM is not easy, as i mentioned... but it really works... its just the matter of how your skill and attitude towards it...

well... your mind is on the wrong direction if u talking about one day i got rob or watever & say its just bcoz they wanna survive... i had mentioned also, as long as its legal... its legal, i'll not go against it... if its illegal, such as some REAL scams, then i'm totally against it~... so dont bring in the illegal topic here...

so if u want to say they are cheating money... well, why not we talk about daily victims of all kinds of biz?? its been tooooo common for biz partners being cheated with money... its too common until we take it as daily meals and didnt take such cases as "wow! u got cheated?! omg~...", u know, we'll just go "oh no... not again... i've receive such cases few times this year..."... so why are we just targetting DCHL or other MLM? bcoz its new and its the hottest topic in biz world...

lastly, please dont talk until like u are the god with only good heart... i'll never believe u dont do unethical things (even its smalll thing) in your life & even in future... not over my dead body!


I made Steven Yeam's wife pregnant: once again, u can choose to invest just RM2500... ya, i know insurance helps to cover your life or watever tat u buy for... but insurance dont give u chance to earn money~... unless u want to say about "saving policy" where u'll get back how many % after 20years of saving insurance...

but u cant compare insurance with MLM, insurance is just insurance... but MLM is talking about doing biz, earning money... both products are totally different thing... and let me remind u again, i'm talking about the method of selling insurance, not the insurance itself! its the method i'm refering... please be more concentrate when reading posts...

and i know, they mislead u by saying 'unlimited wealth'... i've to say its NOT unlimited... u have to continue working in order to continue having income... its like the way u sell insurance, u dont have income if u stop selling insurance... its the same here... u stop looking for people to join, your income stops~...

ha... people just wont accept the truth... u can even say they driving BMW... then where the hell their BMW comes from? drop from sky? or evolve from underground? i understand that u feel insulted when u work hard to earn your BMW but they just use fraction of your hardwork to get one... but its truth tat they dit it~... we have to face it~... u can say "ya its true but i wont support them, i'll never join MLM coz i dont like them... but i understand its true that they did it..." - u say this way, u are a wise man, if not u are just like another kid trying to cover your eyes and say "i dont see anything, i dont see anything~..."


carlson: once again, i'm not talking about insurance, i'm talking about the method of selling insurance...

yes, i agree that they are not targetting their product, they are not promoting their products, they are just 'using' some products in order to continue the biz... i know its not the correct way of doing biz like this... but why do we do biz nowadays?? earn money rite?? so wats the matter of such biz? issit still regarding unethical way? oh just let it go, its the fact already... and its just another unethical way adding up to alll many other unethical biz methods in the whole biz world... unethical biz method has become a common thing to do in biz... so, do u say we stop all those unethical biz in the whole world? if can, of coz its good thing, but we cant... we cant stop all biz from doing some unethical things just to earn more money... if we can accept others, why dont we just accept MLM? issit the matter of time? ya, i believe so... time will fade all these unhappiness with MLM...

about red wine... i'm just refering to people in the pub/disco... and its the fact actually, my friends or myself, we just order, "hey, we want red wine, how much is it? dont give me those cheap wine leh~..."
so, does brand really matters when in pub/disco? i myself is wine lover, but i dont say i know much about wine, but i'll surely look at brands when i buy it at the wine store... i'll definitely buy my desire brand... if not i'll just walk away...

regarding IBM, well... its biz we're talking afterall... so i believe IBM will also take biz as the priority (as long as its legal biz)... if its a good biz to do, IBM will take it~... unless the biz dont give much benefits to IBM, then they'll see no potential in it and reject DCHL...


another Anony: well... i didnt say we gonna sell those products to public... i wont make false statements, so as i mentioned previously, we can just pass it down to our down-liners... its like u are the sponsorer... but the Rm2,350(franchise position) u keep, coz u sonsor the products already... so i didnt say customers are naive... i also told my friends(syners) that the truth is its such a expensive product, nobody will really want to buy it...

haha... u have a funny point here... hm... ^_^ but i'm NOT trying to make my blog famous, ok~... i dont have any interesting posts in my blog too... its just a place for me to type out my feelings and things happening around me... :) and i use my account to post in this blog is bcoz i dont want people to say i'm just a coward who dare to post but dont dare to let people know who post it~... its just tat simple, nothing much... ^_^


another Anony: haha... ya i know, my blog sucks, its not meant for publicity... i didnt try to promote my blog to everyone, except my friends... coz its the good way to know how friends are doing in different places... so the friendship will not fade away that easily... i treasure friendship, tats why... :)

and ya, u can say it sounds like a girl blog... coz my background life is more to problems with relationship and bla bla bla... so it sounds like a lot of sad posts~... but really thanks for visiting & your comments~...


----
p.s. hey guys... i'm not trying to create hostility here... i believe u're not too~... its just a discussion over a unable-to-solve-yet subject~... ^_^ so, when off the discussion table, we dont make enemies... (^_^)Y

7:38 AM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

hey, its fun talking with u guys... really... ^_^ i appreciate your effort to counter-feedback on my posts~... thanks...

and to be frank to everyone... another reason why i want to do all these posts, is bcoz i want to do some brainstorming with you guys, to know more about the whole case... and to know more about MLM and how people react to it... :-)

so, lets continue to argue... lets hope u can really win this case(as if in court)... but please only with facts & truth... no evidence, its ok, as long as its common sense & logic...

thanks for your valuable time~.. :)

7:45 AM  
Blogger zioburosky13 said...

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8:00 AM  
Blogger zioburosky13 said...

Those who post good words about LB:

We are NOT against Lamp Berger. We ARE against SYN/DHCL/RZ. Do a search in google. Lamp Berger is a legit product. However, we cannot TOLERATE what SYN/DHCL doing right now by asking people to join them without letting them know the product.

I had been called once by my old collegue. When we first met, she started to bombard me about the COMPANY, not the PRODUCT.
I feel pity about her. Yes she did make money but I fear she might lose her shirt soon.

MLM is actually an old way to trade. So it's nothing new. The new way to trade is through Internet.

Somehow I find SYNNER the lack of any knowledge about the product and the way they do business is damn funny. :)

8:01 AM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

Sorry to say SYN/RZ people 95% have no financial knowlegde and yet claimed that they are "buSYNess man".i am speechless...those with financial knowlegde only 5 % and those are the one who Use this Ponzi scheme smartly to CONtrol over 95% of those naive people.eg.when they ask the downline to push them up for duke.they will follow without question.again i am speechless.Thats why only 5 % will success. Plz PMD( pass ur money to Duke).GOATtrix wong, i got no comment for u.hope u do well in whatever u doing, and dont con people.anyway Insurans is a good thing.dont compare with LB/syn.

8:45 AM  
Blogger SSaturn said...

Godtrix Wong :

For your information SYN do charity to Shin Chew Jit Po :) hehe. Check the print screen on their official website.

for joking hit me on purpose and say sorry is fine for me :P (just play la)

In ur early post, you say "UNETHICAL" now u change it to "UNHEALTHY"? Please stick back on what u say la. I never know using plastic to fried the lok lok and be more crispy o -_-" anyone got any idea?

MLM = Multi Level Marketing, example company : VIVA (health Product), AMWAY, E=COSWAY ..

Cheer~!

9:04 AM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

just 2 cent from me,

how to counter LB/SYN kidz when they criticize ur work.they will say u are a worker.u will get fired.u earn little money.u dont have dream.


to those who havent Join SYN:

1)i will counter them like this.i am direct under my boss.but LB kidz like u are under many many many so called uplines(master).my position is higher than u.u have no right to talk to me simple u are super grand slaves.
2)i work and i got money every month from my boss.LB kidz work but dont get money from master.instead they give money to master.
Clever people out there-whats the characteristic of slaves?-they work but dont get money from boss rather they suppy money for master.proof my point.
3)steven yeam donate how much money-my boss donate even more.-so i am higher class than u.u got no right talk to me.
4)yes i will get fired if i am not good.Who will get fired if competent?why LB kidz so scared of getting fired?because they are incompetent useless?why they think so negatively while they always ask downline think positively?i am competent.what am i scared of?what if SYN collapse tomrw:).u are not fired.u are FINISHED.BYEBYE.
5)i earn little money?yeah at least i earn 5k per month.LB kidz?no only didnt earn, instead give money.DUKE see every SYN downline as God of Fortune.Thats y they treat u nicely, at the same time treat u like slave.no money in pocket?:)
6)i dont have dream?why i dream of syn collapse everynite:)?why i dream i am Doogiestyleing a SYN sexy lady?why am i dreaming slapping LB kidz like u?

remember PMD:)

9:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dunno y, i feel sick about gothrix's words and his picture....

9:25 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

Godtrix,

Appreciate that you are trying to spark a bout of brainstorming here.

But your arguments are not helping us to brainstorm, rather, it's giving us fodder to flame you for you utter naivety and weak grasp of the situations you have presented.

In overall, you are generalizing a lot of statements, mentioning situations that possibly wouldn't have gone through before. What we are bringing up here are facts as taken from the various website's that SYN has, comments from people who are and was in SYN ( me included).

"and u mind your words, i know its about syn! btw, syn is just another definition on MLM... its the way MLM works... which MLM is not by syn? please tell me, coz i'm interest in tat~..."

the one thing that really raised my eyebrow is this paragraph..hello....what do you mean which MLM is not by SYN??? or are you talking about sin? Please be very clear about what you are writing, because i almost choke on this paragraph. Just to sum it up, again...MLM is no issue to us...some MLMs run their business ethically and legitimately..some, do not. SYN is a team under the auspices of DCHL...there are many other teams under DCHL. Get that. LB is just the product, which alone on its own is dead as it's just an object....the problem here is SYN ethics and the kind of nonsense it has caused among the public. That is all. I have mentioned that you will be flamed bad....and simply because you are not commenting objectively and are bringing points here and there which is not addressing the issue. That's why you will be flamed badly. Take my advice, please really go through all this blog as well as lampe berger help...and low yat forum also...we are talking about SYN. we might criticize about the use of LB, it's cost and the false information as presented by SYN, but the main target is still SYN.

9:30 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what make LB so famous? Because of all of you.

11:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No matter what you guys posted on forum, that will make LB members got even happier. Because you all make them very famous. So, please stop arguing or fighting. Let's find the fact and evidence to prove something instead of talk nonsense.

11:27 AM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

zioburosky13: well, ok... i know generally everyone is against syn/dchl... but i think this blog's topic is totally misleading people~... causing market crisis for lampe berger... who's responsible for this? so, on one side, u guys saying most syners are misleading people into believing its gonna make u a fortune by joining... but on the other side, u guys are also misleading people in going against the product, then only the company... well, i see both side are doing the same thing...

and... we people here are also not letting the readers know the product, instead we are all saying the product is not good without much evidence! the product will send people to hospital~... the products are all unhealthy~... oh... so, may i know who's credit for putting out such wrong info? so, i dont see the difference from syners and anti-syners...

haha... ya, the way they do biz is funny~... and surely they lack of knowledge about their products... ha... they only know how to present it to customer~... nothing else... pity them too...


Jack lim: ya, i agree your point... those among all, only few are smart enough to make it really works well for themselve... then most are pity guys... but to me, biz is just all about methods & ways... so if u get it right, u'll get what u expected... so, its either u avoid getting involve in that biz, or u learn the tricks & skills...

haha... and ya, its humorous if they say they're a real bizman~... hm...

so, lets just say i'm among the few who ask "pls PMD"... but i haven plan to really join in yet... :)

once again, i'm just refering to the method of selling insurance, not insurance particularly...


SSaturn: wow, really ya? they also do charity ya? haha~... its quite funny to hear that~... hm... haha...

haha... of coz, if just play play hit u, of coz its ok la... me too~... i'm not so 'small gas' too~... ^_^

... i didnt change from 'unethical' to 'unhealthy'... its directly related... making food really unhealthy for customer to consume is already unethical~... i really respect & support those food stores who's priority is healthy food~... some stores they even stated they dont ever use AJINOMOTO in any of their food... its good~... and thats ethical way to do biz...

haha... i know putting plastic to fry is really sound "OMG!"... but its true, its on newspaper few years ago... that store owner is caught by police, but i dunno if he go to jail or not~...

well, ok... please pardon me if i mixed up MLM and SYN... for now, i'll just say SYN, instead of MLM... ^_^


Jack lim: haha... not bad for your counter ideas...

for:
1) hm... ok, u got a point somewhere~... but i think if u in big company, u're also way down the network~... rite? unless u working for a small biz where u only got 1 or 2 levels in the network... ^_^

2) great! haha... tats a good way to counter them... hm...

3) hm... well, this cant work for everyone... coz not every boss make more donation then SY...

4) ya! good point here~...

5) hm... not all syners are earning nothing...

6) ya... they have no rights to say people having no dreams... each & everyone does have at least one dream... unless their brain rosak~... ^_^


anony: hey... this is very unrelavent saying... when i say something u dont like, u say my photo make u sick, then if i say i give u a job or give u 1million prize, u say my photo looks nice~...

u say in such way only makes u sound like a fool, like a inmature kid bullying other smaller kids...


Ni9htl0rd: who say i'm not saying fact? wat possibly wouldn't have gone through before? wat i said had happened~... i'm saying facts, its very obvious facts... its just that people dont accept it... open your eyes wide and see~... if its all fake, they'll already be gone years ago~... or they dont even have chance to grow~... bcoz it works, thats why they grow... (i dont say they wont close down one day, in fact, i believe they'll close down one day... and tat day is not far... maybe couple of years to come...)

"and u mind your words, i know its about syn! btw, syn is just another definition on MLM... its the way MLM works... which MLM is not by syn? please tell me, coz i'm interest in tat~..." - well, ya ya... i know i made a wrong link between MLM and syn... sorry for tat... but u know la, i'm talking about this popular topic of syn mah...

i didnt say its ethical biz~... my point here is to say, its working and why are we denying it? its working but in unethical way... its just that simple~...

i just dont wish to see people here become one of them... i mean the attitude and behavior... u guys are going off hand~... doing things such as sabotaging the product itself where its not true of what u guys are saying negetively about the product itself... and if its dchl that u guys are targeting, then please keep it just dchl... dont link it to lb or estebel or even MLM...


Anony: lb is famous since before dchl... its down the generations of royal family... and lb is selling hot in european countries where they had nothing to do with dchl... its just asia where dchl have cause all the negetive feedback on lb~... lb is actually a good product... and so does estebel... so, dont be mislead...

i hope syners dont mislead anything, and also people who anti them, dont mislead anything too... thanks


another Anony: are you asking the creator of this blog to close it? bcoz it seems like this blog is created mainly to target lb and dchl~... so, who starts it? if this blog doesnt exist, then i wont be spending time typing all these, am i right?

so, just be it~... we cant run away from all these discussion, if i dont post anything here, there'll be someone else who posting similar things, maybe not here, but surely somewhere... so, accept it~... live with it~... :)

1:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

godtrix is really getting emotional and weird. at one point he says this, the other point another thing. Do you have your own principles instead of backstabbing? lol

2:12 PM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

haha... maybe u haven realise, i've said, i'm not on any side... i'm just trying to clear things out, wats fact and truth...

so, as long as its fact & truth, i agrees...

later on i'm posting a conclusion to this whole thing... a simple conclusion to clear everyone from the mist~... so to help everyone, NOT to be misleaded by syners, nor anti-syners... :)

2:31 PM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

ok... i think there's a conclusion coming out of the discussion in these few days... (actually i'm lazy to discuss further... ^_^ and i think its quite clear already...)

conclusions are:
1. against it, due to unethical biz method...

not refering to MLM, its just mainly SYN/DCHL...

as other MLM company such as Amway are mainly targeting sales of their product,

not like DCHL, ignoring product & mainly targeting the joining & investment from down-liners...

Also, DCHL syners are using methods of misleading people into believing its a no risk investment that proves 100% success & wealth... forever... by just finding 5 down-liners to join...

2. other than targeting SYN/DCHL... we are not targeting the products that they claim to market: Lampe Berger, Estebel, etc...

3. those saying LB or Estebel are unhealthy products, are just wrong claims... trying to mislead the public into not supporting the distributors: DCHL & members

So, LB or Estebel are still a proven quality products...

For LB,
mislead by syners: they say LB is from royal family used by generations... and it possess aromatherapy effect...
mislead by anti-syners: they say things such as "use LB a day, keeps u nearer to death"... say like if u use a lot of LB, u'll finally end up in hospital!

Truth: here's the actual official site for Lampe Berger Company. There you can find the detailed history in pdf form.
Basically, LB effect is just to remove odors, kill bacteria and fragrance the air.
- Most importantly, its proven health beneficial product as it's used in hospitals at that times to help kill baterias that are deadly to everyone. So, its a good product to use at home and actually recommended.

NOTE: I do not know IF DCHL has done anything to alter the original product & cause any negetive effect from the product, so my advice is, check out the actual product on the site i mention above and see if such particular oil, u interested, sold by DCHL, is listed or not. If its not listed, then its safer not to use it, not sure if they got add what the hell in, to 'make' it aromatherapy~... coz i dont see anything regarding aromatherapy in the official site... OR maybe they just treat everyone like an idiot who dont know what aromatherapy is, and tries to cheat us by saying "LB kills baterias & odors = aromatherapy"...

U know, for me, I would like to buy LB... but dont think will buy from DCHL... I'll rather search for european retailer and ships here, if its cheaper la~... ^_^

For Estebel,
hm... this product is just a victim from LB... when everyone saying DCHL is bad, so LB is bad... then Estebel should be bad too~... haha... its a poor assumption...

Well, for Estebel, due to total take over by DCHL, there's no official site except DCHL own site... so, I cant bring up much evidence for this product. hm... i only found this site.

hm... but I believe its a safe and effective product... its been used in spa, of coz, their estebel spa... haha... coz, if its not effective, then the spa will close down long ago... and estebel wont be standing for 100years+...

4. Once again, MLM is not a bad idea to do, its just some company who use MLM the unethical way, so just dont be mislead... again...

5. DCHL is working... but its NOT easy to achieve... NOT everyone can do it! Thats why there are people who failed, and people who succeed!

mislead by syners: they say its as easy as abc, just need to go find 5 person, just 5... could be anyone, your family members, friends, etc... just 5 and u can retire~...

not mislead by syners: they say about syners who are earning lots of money... its true... so just dont deny the truth... their BMW just dont drop from sky... :)

Truth: it works like selling insurance, you need to look for people and try your best to convince them... and its not all, you DONT just find 5 to join and u can retire... you have to maintain looking for people in order to continue having income through this MLM-DCHL... but its just that DCHL didnt say, you must get how many people in certain constant, its up to you. But surely your income will stop if u stop at 5 only...

its unethical way of selling products, but still works (ignoring the unethical issue) if you are hardworking enough and you have the skills, you can earn a living here...

So, its(DCHL) not a scam nor its illegal~... its works if u do it right...
scam is that even u do it right, u still being cheated with money u gave them.

6. Joining DCHL biz will NEVER last forever! So, NEVER take it as your main income/job! at most is your 2nd income, or your part-time job... while you still have your stable main career...

mislead by syners: they'll tell you, this will last forever, you can take this as your fulltime job, and close down all your other biz or quit your other jobs...

I dont need to explain much why it never last... basically, biz dont last very long, especially the one that has many people trying to take it down ^_^ and like such easy earning scheme, it'll never last...

7. mislead by syners: they only stress on investing RM30k... actually, u can choose the mininum which is RM2500... and its NOT totally a joining fee! only RM150 of it is paid for membership and starter kit... the rest is for you to choose the products that total up to the cost...

So, dont say this is the most expensive MLM to join~... others are more expensive, why? coz some require you to pay RM400-500 to join... and you dont see any products... so, compare to DCHL's RM150... the joining fee is not high...

and, you do not need to sell to public, you can just 'sponsor' your own goods to your down-liners(and u keep the money he invest, in other words, u sold the goods to him)... so, you wont need to worry if you can find any buyers or not.

8. wrong way of communication by syners: they'll tend to be rude and disrespect to people if people dont want to join. And they tend to advice people to borrow money from family members or friends or maybe in future, even suggest u to rob?! hey... its totally not right to do such suggestions!!

9. regarding unethical issue... we cant just target DCHL for unethical ways... in fact, all biz around the world, small or large... they had unethical doings in their biz... we cant be selfish, if we want to strongly oppose to DCHL, then we have to oppose to a lot of companies too... such as MS, Celcom(they mostly mislead public in thinking something else tats great deal, but actually there's a lot of hidden ways of making your bill still so expensive), etc... create blog for all these too~... but u'll be very busy... :P

i just heard a news from FM yes933 that there's a fake mask selling in malaysia and singapore... and it had already caused a malaysia singer(a not famous singer) face destoryed! so, its common for unethical biz~... so, wats the big deal about DCHL?

---
omg... there's too much misunderstanding and wrong assumptions and truth to say~... i think i'll stop here... the rest ya, maybe someone helps to add in~.. :) thanks... and good luck.

4:55 PM  
Anonymous dan said...

Godtrix..

I did not say you said "MLM is good in the long run"..

All i said was,
It is not a good business model.
Especially not in the long run.

I am making a statement which is directed to you and for people here to read..

7:10 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

Godtrix,

I thought i was long winded, but you're full of gas..

I've opened my eyes because i am a count in SYN. You claimed you are not, so your points will be less valid as you are not in SYN, but you are saying as if you know everything about SYN. Yeah, I know you have close friends in SYN, but really, how accurate is second hand information?

That's what i mean by saying facts. All the data presented here are not made up by anti-SYN people, rather it's taken from news sources, websites and other dataproviders.

And about if they cannot work, they would have already close down a long time ago. Let me tell you SYN works...but not in the way you think. SYN preys on the basic needs and greed of humans and turn that into an effective tool to milk unsuspecting people of their hard earned money. Hey, when only 5% out of all SYN members will actually earn anything (calculation is provided, please go look through the blogs, and so many others...you can even run your own calculation too), don't you think it's unethical to promise people wealth when you know you only have a 5% chance? Heck, I bet on 'Big,Small' also I will have 50% chance of winning.

And their concept is actually, 'robbing peter to pay paul'.

Secondly, you mentioned that by us 'badmouthing' LB and Estebel, we are actually causing SYN people to lose sales because of the negative press. Hello, please find on the net anywhere, or books, was there any concrete evidence that LB is bad? We are badmouthing the tactics being used by SYN to say as if LB is good for aromatherapy...but it's actually just a fragrance. Find out the difference between this two. And why the huge markup?? Can you explain that to me when i can easily buy at about 60% cheaper online? Just like i mentioned. It's not the product, it's SYN, but you ended up writing more and more of the products.

And lastly, your arguements just could not hold water because you can't even differentiate between MLM and SYN, and you don't even know what we are fighting for. 'use lb a day, nearer to death' is only a joke slogan used by an anti-SYN guy...who else says that. Did anyone else says using LB brings you closer to death? Like cigarettes? Please, by just using that joke slogan to substantiate your point, you've made a mockery of the long whining drivel you've put in here. You are the one who has failed to open your eyes to the big picture.

So again, I say, please be objective about what you are saying. Increasingly it seems as you are fighting to clear SYN's name instead of sitting on the fence. So you are no longer not supporting either side. Confess that. Our stand has been the same all along.

7:38 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Godtrix Wong: U think u r GOD? what kinda english name u have? I can't find it in dictionary names for boys as well.

Nvm,but I ask u 1 thing.Since u been their HLA office,did the person proof to u how much did the LB kids earn? Talk is useless but u need to show proof or evidence.U ur brain to think is a school leavers can Earn 5 figure income? If can,u'll see what the "jabatan hasil dalam negeri" staff actions on tomolo.I also can tell every1 here tat my salary is RM10K per month without showing u any proof also.

And also,if 1 SYN kids says he earn 5 figure income but try to think how many SYN kids lost their "investment" and been drowning in order to make this 5 figure income kids to earn tat kinda income.

And 1 more thing,I think u believe them so easily bcos of u r been fool by those SYN gals in their office.I know tat some of them are preety cos I been there twice.But this is a beauty/sex trap to trap u to join SYN.

I tell u 1 thing la,those SYN gals are money minded 1,those "Ah-lian" type as well.I can use money to ONS wif them as well if they want my money!

U know why? Bcos SYN gals dun recognise ppl but recognise money only.

And 1 last word to u Godtrix wong,PMD (pass ur money to DUKE)

AND TATS THE BOTTOMLINE,COS b3rnard7 SAIS SO

8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh nightlord you used to do LB? Count somemore? Why open up your eyes AFTER you join? Why did you join in the first place? Too hard for you? Can't accept being a failure so the only thing you can do is blame the business/company/syn and said "I have open my eyes and this business is a big CON!" Sure la, you don't do the right thing, no result blame others. Why not blame yourself for being so stupid?
No wonder the rage. Hey everyone, take a real GOOD look of a failure "product".
Same goes for everyone who joined and left. This is so freaking funny and most utterly pathetic.

10:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems that we are not against legit MLM has been lost among many people here.

10:21 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

to the anonymous,

hahahahahaha....yes, you are funny and pathethic....i never said i left SYN...I am still a count. I never invested rm30k to be a count, i was pushed up by my upline. I can openly say i have not sold a single product or recruit a single person, nor do i intend to sell or recruit one.

Tell me my anonymous upstart, do you know what is the meaning of double agent? SYN people has been telling me, 'SYN is the way, LB is a great product bla bla bla' well, to prove them it's not, and knowing full well screaming from outside the room will not affect them, i joined them to blow it up from the inside. Do you understand now, stupid?

Steven Yeam will be in Penang on 21st of July. I will inform of the time and place as soon as i get the information.

No, anonymous, it's not too hard for me, because i have no intention of making my money this way. I just pay rm2345 for my ticket to wreck you guys from among the shadows. Fun, so much fun. Your information is not safe, your secrets cannot be hidden, and your practices are being exposed daily....but you do not know who i am...

10:29 PM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

YEAH night lord,

ITs fun to wear SYN tag into their office, and yet in our heart we know that we are not there to recruit people but to expose whatever trick that they use:).hehe.i really can understand ur feeling.and among few hundred SYN member, only we gain back our conscience.the rest are mere robot, or slaves.Its sad to see many naive prospect being cheated at the table.but soon it will be over because we going to expose more and more trick they use.Yeah this month sales has drop

10:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey is there anyway to get the SYN tag ar?i wanna get 1 and go inside HLA and recording down the OPP and other event la!!!

2:48 AM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

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3:58 AM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

dan: ok~... :)

Ni9htl0rd: look... i dont care if you'd been a count or duke or watever level... wat i claimed are also all facts from reading other then this blog & finding around the internet... ya, u may say internet is not a reliable source, but arent most of us reading articles about DCHL from internet? so if u claim that i'd gather a wrong info, then so are you...

and please, sometimes its not necessary to get involve to know the details, its the same as planning a murder or planning to rob... for all firt-timers, do they have any experience in it before they do it? i ask u, do you know how to plan for a murder or robbing? yes, we all know how to do it, even thought we didnt do it before... so, you cant say i'm wrong as i haven been one of them before...

its the fact that even newspapers or other medium are also full of shit sometimes... how do they fetch those news?? by reporters, rite? and how reporters get their info? by listening to those who're being interviewed by them... so, its the same concept: "rubbish in, rubbish out"... if u say my sources or claims are inrelevant, then so are most of the people...

btw, did i say SYN works the ethical way?? NO! i had stressed it sooo many times that its working but in unethical way! please read my post carefully, and dont skip any statements!

so, u claim their concept is like 'robbing peter to pay paul'... ya, we can say that...

and please, when u say there's no one sabotaging the products itself, it proves that u didnt read much of those web sites... i'd read many of them saying LB or estebel are unhealthy products, u'll get watever bad effect if u use it!

hey, my main purpose for posting here all these days are to prevent people from doing UNETHICAL MISLEADING, NEITHER FOR SYNERS NOR ANTI-SYNERS!

and please, again, read my post clearly, i already have said that LB is NOT aromatherapy products, its use is just to purify odors, kill 68% of baterias in air, and perfume the air! didnt i say it already? why are you asking me to look out for the difference between aromatherapy and perfume????? oh gosh~...

so wat i write more of the products? again, my main purpose is to prevent people from misleading! so, no matter what issue here, as long as its related, i'll try to correct it if its misleaded! Thanks for your help! oh man~... this guy is sleeping while typing his posts~... =_="

and btw, its a BIG BIG mistake for taking "use lb a day, nearer to death" as a slogan! its already unethical and inmature way to do it, if u are doing unethical things here, what rights do u have to say others for being unethical??

and do u know? all those wrong claims about the products being unhealthy really almost gets me into believing its bad product! its a very serious issue here, the actual Lampe Berger Company can sue u for just saying this to public! so, for everyone's own goodsake(i'm refering to majorities), please stop misleading people, if can, just say things that are true & facts...

(u know, its like a thief shouting "catch thief!")


and... i'm still not standing on either side... i'm just argueing against people's post here... so, most of the posts are targeting DCHL/SYN... thats why my replies are mostly against what u guys are saying... sorry to cause the misunderstanding with me... well, is there a site where syners normally posts?? i would want to post there too... thanks...


b3rnard7: ya i know what u mean... we all wont believe 100% unless we see their account or payslip... hm... maybe i'll get one photostated or photographed one day...

and i think u dont know one thing, there's a lot of primary school/secondary school leavers who are CEO, Chairman, General Managers, or just a Manager, or watever... these people are earning 5 digits & above... i believe u had watched tv shows that interviewed these guys, right? and even books are selling how these people succeed~... there's a lot... so, its not a big deal for school leavers to earn lots of money...

and somemore, due to technologies today, u can easily do biz & earn a lot...

ya i know, this is already out of topic, but i'm just trying to correct your idea on how school leavers can earn so much~...

haha... ya, there's pretty gals there too... but i haven talk to any one of the gals... coz i'm not interested... as u said, they're money-minded gals, so i'm not keen on talking to them neither... :)


Anony: ....... erm... relax, cool down~... ^_^"


Ni9htl0rd: oh, u sacrifies to get in just for knowing more deeper?? wow... ok, u the man~... :) no comments~... but may i know how u get to count if u dont have anyone to push u? u said u didnt invested 30k... then how?

4:09 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

Gotrix,

My upline recruited a count and put him under me. Understand?

That's why i say i know what i am saying as i am getting first hand information. Information from the horses mouth. And i never say internet is an unreliable source. LB is never my target, and if you bring that up again, i'll just ignore you. It's SYN. End of story. but what a huge difference between what you replied to me in the first paragraph....and your last...all within the same comment?? come on, that's why i say you are making a mockery of yourself. Your comments are going round and round and coming back to the point that has just been brought up. I'm lazy to go through each point you brought up which is so erroneous it just begs to be deleted. If i do that, i might as well start a blog with the title 'Find out what Gotrix is saying'. and even if i do reply you, you're going to over the same nonsense again. Any one with a average grasp of the english language will see you're running circles among our sentences.

So what are you looking for? the Ultimate truth? That's why you question every single thing people do and say? That's what people who seeks the ultimate truth do.

Let me tell you one thing, the ultimate truth, is death.

4:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From what i read up there, it seem to me anon and cat just wanna take fuck from all of us.

6:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

godtrix is definitely a LB distributor. He speak exactly in the same manner as those spekers in their office.

a) Always using other matters to compare and defend. Microsoft, Bill Gates, etc. They don't answer direct to their own issue.

b) Comparing LB like all other MLM,

c) Avoiding issues which they cannot answer. Have you people noticed he can be so long winded and yet totally left out those he cannot find a way to defend ?

10:00 AM  
Anonymous Prophet of the Anti-Syn said...

godtrix wong,

can...you...stop..posting...like...this...it...makes...my...eyes..hurt...

Besides crushing everyone under a wall of text and making the same old, same old arguments, you're not really making any sense.

6:03 PM  
Blogger Dexter said...

goddamn tricks,

Stop trying to fool others !!

DCHL is making overclaims on the effectiveness of the products. And don't write like you don't understand what others are trying to tell you.

The Europeans and Americans are just selling them as perfumes and fragrances(check their websites) but the MLM is selling them as air-purifying and aromatheraphy products, and prices 3 to 4 times more.
I trust all my friends who have attended their talk.

10:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Well,Ivy & Charlson,u r rite tat amway is a listed company but when I check BSKL there is no such "DCHL/SYN" exist.Can u explain this to me? If u say tat Amway ppl need to stock up product to maintain their status,what's the difference with DCHL/SYN? also same rite? U also buy those lamps to maintain ur status as well.

Plus 1 more thing,I dun see in those newspapers complain about amway ands cosway but recently I saw many "news" from DCHL/SYN ler.Even the paper nvr say the company name but from the news tat i read is DCHL/SYN laio...even a blind ppl also know as well! "

3:00 AM

i thought u r 'brilliant', steven..plz use ur 'brilliant' brain to think those ppl who make complaints on newspaper if they have proof or evidence tat DCHL/SYN ic con, they supposed to go police station to report instead of goin to newspaper ok ? I understand that 'grapes is alwaz sour when people cant get it'....
If u can make use of ur briliant mind,i think the whole society wil get benefit; or ur consistency on anti-LB can make use in other way, u could be a very successful person, i believe..'Think b4 u do'

11:43 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

anony above: U read the sin chew paper,the picture it shows 2 youth holding a DCHL forms.

And plus,the table on it got collection of lamps,so try to think 1st,in Malaysia...which company got the distributor right to bring those LB lamps to malaysia?

Even a 5 yeard old kid also can tell me tat "b3rnard7 koko,LB lamps is from DCHL and SYN la"

N 1 final word 2u,that message is type by me not steven yip...and i know SYN ppl use LB oil as "lubrication" when mating with ur wife rite? go n buy durex lotion la stupid!

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8:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nightlord: so u are useless, not recruit one people, better go to die.

2:14 AM  
Anonymous TEH POWAH said...

Nightlord will always be more brilliant than any of you slaves of SYN!

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone has to talk some sense to this idiot keith..By looking at the way he writes he isn't very intellegent.. I feel that he is very frustrated at himself for joining this scam and is in denial..therefore he is releasing his anger on others who already know about this scam..I can see he is trying to convince and prove to himself that this isn't a scam.. but deep down he alrready knows that he is stupid and greedy and is so blind that he is willing to scarifice his efforts to convince himself..
If he was really making so much money in this pryamid scheme I think he wouldn't be bothered what people say about it.. And if Lb was really a decent and honest business there certainly would careless about what people say.. am i righT?
whats the point in proving you're innocence if you are really innocent?
Shame on all the people in LB.. using greed and luxury to attract the young people in the society.. mark my words what comes easy will go easy..but I feel sorry the most for those who are already in it.. they are blinded by greed and in denial of themselves..

10:55 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

anonymous,

so you are admitting as a SYNner, to be useful you must recruit?

good, a confession from a SYNner is as good as any.

good day to you.

12:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to anti lampe: better change this tittle" more support cibai for ur mother ass"

9:09 AM  
Anonymous TEH POWAH said...

SYN members might as well call themselves "The Exclusive Club of Kissing Steven Yeams @ss", lol!

6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No progress from Steve & Gang on knocking down SYN/DCHL... same old whole load of crap everyday...
- 24th July 2006-

1:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

check out nightlord's interest (click on his id):
Shadows, lies, intelligence, counter-intelligence, deception, grey areas, unknown, spin, deceit, subterfuge, sabotage, assasination, anarchy, chaos, death.
Choas!! LIES!! DECEPTION!! ulala.. your'e practising it real well in this blog - Chaos & LIES , in joining SYN to (konon) find it's loop hole and save humanity by shooting down SYN-DECEPTION!!I'd be stupid to listen and believe this kinda person.
Nightlord, you're darn blur enough to talk about helping people when you yourself need help more than others.
hurry up, go change your id before people starts clicking on it!!!
oh btw, why do u need to wait for the pay forward system to see if it'll be successful? i thought you intention is to shoot down SYN!! Why the change of mind now? Wanna see if you can make money from his new plan?! Nightlord's last comment in 'Fight Over Lampe Berger')

7:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

btw nightlord,
since you're the double agent here, and i'm sure you have attended Steven Yeam's talk on Pay-Forward System, why not you share with your fellow hardcore anti-lampe berger & fellow blog readers here what the plan is all about?

8:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, just go back to sucking steven yeams dick, assholes SYNners.

5:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No progress from Steve & Gang on their so called 'quest' in knocking down SYN/DCHL... same old whole load of crap everyday...
- 27th July 2006-

12:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi everyone I m a partner of SYN. Well, I think for those who don't really understand about this business. You shouldn't make any negative comment about it :) (sorry no offence). If you guys really interested to know more, please pay a visit to our office and seek for an advisor to explain more about our marketing plan and products. Thank you!

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