Tuesday, July 04, 2006

Steven Yeam Deserves Jail

Got another letter from anti LB supporter, which gives an overview of the MLM industry, and how it could be turned into a great time scam.

If Koscot Interplanetary founder is now sitting behind bars, Steven Yeam should also be in jail.

And I believe this month sales has dropped tremendously due to the 45k for Count.

Lampe Berger business is certainly going sour.

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Hi,

Kudos for both of your blogs. Please feel free to edit/delete anything if anyone of you are going to publish this email.

I have several comments which is (somehow) related to SYN/DCHL and pyramid schemes. Most of the arguments are old which I just consolidate from some sources. I won't elaborate much but instead encourage you guys to read up the links and do so (if you haven't seen the links before).


The first point is the concept of this so-called 'network marketing' wasn't something new, which many of SYN/DCHL's followers believe in. Please note that SYN/DCHL's operational similiarity to Koscot Interplanetary's strategy 30 years ago. Koscot mainly sells cosmetics and to have the right to 'distribute' it, you are 'encouraged' to buy $5.4k of cosmetics. Please take a look at http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/other/dvimf16.htm. Excerpts below:

One of the Commission's first cases was In re Koscot Interplanetary, Inc.,(14) which involved a company that offered the opportunity to become a "Beauty Advisor" and sell cosmetics. The company's incentive structure really did not encourage retail sales. Instead, it encouraged people to pay $2000 for the title of "Supervisor" and purchase $5400 in Koscot cosmetics, and then to earn bonuses by recruiting others to make the same investments.(15) The Commission found that Koscot operated an illegal "entrepreneurial chain" and articulated a definition of illegal pyramiding that our agency and the federal courts continue to rely on.(16) The Commission found that pyramid schemes force participants to pay money in return for two things. First is "the right to sell a product", second is "the right to receive, in return for recruiting other participants into the program, rewards which are unrelated to sale of the product to ultimate users. (emphasis added)"(17) The Commission explained that paying bonuses for recruiting:

. . . will encourage both a company and its distributors to pursue that side of the business, to the neglect or exclusion of retail selling. The short-term result may be high recruiting profits for the company and select distributors, but the ultimate outcome will be neglect of market development, earnings misrepresentations, and insufficient sales for the insupportably large number of distributors whose recruitment the system encourages."(18)

More information like old and new plans are explained in detail in http://www.mlmlaw.com/library/cases/mlm/state/txkoscott.htm. Compared to SYN/DCHL, Koscot's structure is more complex and consists of multiple companies, including sister company 'Dare To Be Great' which charges for trainings. The stable of companies are brought down and its founder, Glenn Turner, was eventually jailed.

Here, we can see that the weakness stem from fundamental of the system instead of 'the unethical behaviour of the distributors'. Pyramid scheme, which I would explain as a system which is mathematically flawed and unsustainable, instead of the grey areas claimed by sites like http://cactaur.blogspot.com/2006/01/afterthoughts-on-mlm.html


The second point that many people may not know is, a large scale pyramid scheme may be hazardous for even a big entity like a country, as shown here: http://www.worldbank.org/html/prddr/trans/so97/albania2.htm. The article discusses failure of action by the authorities causing pyramid scheme funds balloons to 50% of Algeria's GDP before crashing the economy.


Thanks and keep up the good work.

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74 Comments:

Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

Great coup, steven.

Now...i wonder what yarn SYNners will spin this time....

10:31 PM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

Hahaha this is getting interesting.

11:49 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Once Steven Yeam is in jail,I think the follower won't mention the word "STeven Yeam" or "SYN" already.

HAHA! soon,their "GOD" will be send into lockup :P

12:30 AM  
Anonymous dan said...

Good title of a post...

haha..

2:01 AM  
Anonymous jack lim said...

how to get him into jail?

2:30 AM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

wow, not bad... its a good source... ya, i agree that Steven Yeam deserve to be punished for all these public & market disruptions...

hm... but there's parts that's questionable for comparing koscot with DCHL...

1. at the time of koscot, does the gov issue any kind of license for doing such MLM? (not sure if the license is fake or not, but DCHL has the license...) And i believe that Steven Yeam is not a stupid guy, he'll not bring himself to jail... so, i'm sure he'd done the necessity to avoid being illegal... and some more such as koscot case, he'll surely read about it and in fact, learnt their lesson, and so he'll avoid getting jailed.

2. as you said, its 30years ago, things and ways changed in such few decades... u see, in the past cases such as napster, its been a great court case, but u see application nowadays... those P2P appli, they are not even questioned by any org or gov for their 'invisible' illegal support for piracy... (i dont say it'll be the same case for such MLM, but i also do see there's a similar effect due to the time passed...)

3. one thing, koscot require people to pay $2000 just for joining/so-call buy a title: Supervisor

as for DCHL case, i'm sure he's safe from that... why? because basically DCHL DONT require any joining fee as similar to koscot, or so-called buying a title...

DCHL's way is, RM70 for membership, which membership is a legal thing, but not buying a title, its illegal to buy a title. And RM80 is for starter kit... so, i dont see any illegal issue here with DCHL.

And DCHL dont give a title, you only gets a level name, such as Baron, Count, Duke... and you'll be unofficially called 'Distributor'...

4. hm... this post mentioned rewards for getting people to join... ya, its in the wrong direction... tats why koscot gets himself into trouble...

but i see in DCHL that they dont give rewards for those who join, they give commissions for those products sold, in this case to the down-liners... so, in DCHL, their commission is related to selling of products... in fact, its directly related, bcoz if u just join & dont get any products, u'll get nothing in return, and the amount of commission is dependable on the amount of products you so-call-sold...

so, its still legal...

5. as for koscot, they gets the short-term high recruiting profits...

but as for DCHL, they get their profits by selling the products to people who didnt intend to buy themselves(those so-call-distributors) but (in the mind of making money) they still bought lump sum of products...

u know, the fact is, almost ALL syners consume the products they so-call-bought, instead of resell them in whole... so, its still consider as sales made...

6. this is the only thing that i really agreed, which i also mentioned previously... such system will definitely crash one day... (but i dont say it cant be created again) these system never last, they have their decline slope on the chart... its just the same chart as a product (if u're in biz classes, i believe u know wat i'm refering the chart to)


:) well, again, i'm just trying to say the fact... not to mislead anyone...

and please correct me if i'm wrong...


jack lim: maybe get a spy to check if he has any hidden doc or records for illegal actions... or get someone to do the sabotage(but arent we as bad as him, if we do it? hm... sometimes if its for the goodsake of majority, then its still a good thing to do(sabotaging)... haha...)! ^_^

3:01 AM  
Anonymous kiwi said...

er... the title is about "deserve", but how to get him into jail? i'm getting tired to face all the LB member la.. ask me to attend a talk on next monday. i wont go.. or i'll toturing myself, cos for sure they wont provide any drinks... ;p
but i wander, what will be discuss in the talk huh?

3:05 AM  
Anonymous jack lim said...

so Godtrix,

would u like to be my spy?:)or u just bul.shiting and talk cxck and sing SYN song only?

3:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

godtrix is just trying to mislead everyone from the fact. please read his previous post, when you fire him he agrees with you, and then suddenly he changes his attitude and talk about DCHL being legal. SO obvious that they disguise their rewards and given titles like Baron, Marquis are TITLES themselves not names.. i'm dumbfounded by the things he can say sometimes without using his brain

4:31 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

Amen to that...

4:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

gotrix thought he always write long reply mean every1 will think he is good and respect him, but he dunno he is just talking bullshit without any point like LB kidz

4:53 AM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

jack lim: haha~... u funny la... wat sing syn song?!

spy ah... hmm... sound interesting, but i'm not tat rich to spend tat money JUST to be a spy... so, if i join in like Ni9htl0rd does, i'll surely try my best to earn money la~... dont waste it mah...

and btw, if been a spy, i'm sure i'll need work like other syners too, this way, i'll truely understands how things comes out, if it really works wonders or just cheating u tat fortune is near~...

am i right? so, i think Ni9htl0rd's not getting much info by just joining and not doing it~... hm...

4:54 AM  
Blogger Godtrix Wong said...

Anony: did i ever change my points??? from the 1st post in this blog until now, i'm saying DCHL is legal! i NEVER say DCHL is illegal, i only say its unethical! so, please read carefully b4 u reply...

and please... do u know in biz term of title?? Baron is not found as a 'title' to biz world, neither is Count~... but 'Supervisor' is!

so, we are saying in biz term of title... not the general meaning of title~...

another Anony: huh~... my points are too obvious, and u cant even understands it? my advice, consult your english teacher then only u reply here...

5:01 AM  
Anonymous jack lim said...

dear sissy Godtrix fren,

i gave u two choices in my previous comment 1)be a spy 2)or u are just talking c.ck,sing SYN song.
obviously u choice number 2.
Does it show ur stand now even u keep on denying u not member of SYN?in this world there is male and female.there is pro SYN and anti SYN.but there is also in between-PONDAN-NYAH.and u choose to be IN btween.
so is it alright i call u sissy?or nyah?or pondan?or u admit u pro SYN?:)

5:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Godtrix pusing macam si keling.

6:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I smell hypocrisy in Godtrix's comment.

7:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I smell hypocrisy in Godtrix's comment.

7:12 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

Godtrix,

Dont make assumptions. How do you know i'm not getting much info? But you talk as if you have a lot of info? And you are not in SYN?? Again...you talk and talk and talk...you talk too much...but did nothing to substantiate what you are saying.

Let me just put it to you, either you choose to be SYN...or anti-SYN. Don't argue and say you are neutral and don't support either side. There is no true neutral in human behaviour, you ain't playing a D&D game.

Earlier in your posts you mentioned you also question SYN people too. I wonder do you question them in the same manner as you are doing here? By writing/saying long winded contradictory statements, with a wise ass answer to whatever people say. Because if you do, then there is one thing that SYN and anti-SYN can agree to...that you deserve a good thrashing.

7:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget this is Malaysia Boleh land !!

Everyone here is just complaining but no one take any real action.
Giving DCHL all the advantage that you guys never know.

9:45 AM  
Anonymous Made Steven Yeam's Wife Pregnant said...

Godtrix, you sucks. Please dont ever post again. You look stupid and you give stupid comments.

10:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

godtrix stop seeking attention seriously, just tell us if you want people to view your blog lolx.. dont have to go through this ordeal. whats your age again? lolx, you wont be remembered lolx

11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About 97% of today's America are made of the 'employed' class. The same number goes to the KL population today. This is because no education system teaches this subject/major called Entrepeneurship.

The people in SYN do not blame anyone here for their fanatical fight against this industry. Its only normal. It has become the 'prefered' mentality to be employed by business people, instead of running a business.

MLM is like any other franchising business. The only difference, to the less intellectual, is that MLM is less 'physical'. This means that we are distributors without redundant retail shops.

To better educate people, here is the difference between a JOB and a BUSINESS.

JOB= you get paid every month. Increments would be around RM100-300 per year, which isn't enough to cover annual inflation rates anyway. Very little chance of ending up an MD or CEO before retiring.

BUSINESS= income depends on amount of sales generated. No steady pay. No ceiling possibilities of income.

The 9th Malaysian Plan actually encourages MLM and Direct Sales as the new means of increasing the country's GDP. Check newspaper write-ups yourselves.

SYN never discouraged students to discontinue studies, nor did the org. PROMISE tonnes of money or nice cars. Everything comes with consistency* and persistency*. Most such promises or discouragements come from people. It's a people's business, and we get rotten eggs from time to time. Its only normal.
*refer to dictionary for the meaning of both words.

Business people would be familiar with The Product Life-Cycle. Products will lose their edge, only if competitors come up with more advanced replacements. LB lamps has been around for over a century, and they don'y seem to have lost their edge. In fact, LB lamps won 'Brand of the Brand Award in HK, toppling Phillips and Haagen Daaz. Tell them that LB lamps are bad.

The best way to know the truth about this business and this org., is by coming up by yourselves and see it. We're not terrorists taking over the world. We're merely normal businessmen. Tell them you do not intent to be persuaded into the business, and they'll respect your space and show you the true MLM. After you've seen it, comment all you want here. We like the criticism. It helps the industry, believe it or not. That was how Louis Vuitton got famous in the first place. Keep the blog running, guys. You're doing a good job!! Cheers.

2:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys rant and complain all your lives. When you failed your exams, the teachers and lecturers were to blame. When you failed your driving exam, the examiners would not pass you without bribes. When you got rejected from job interviews, the managers were stupid not to see your talents.

You guys sit around all day and night blaming others for what happened to you, and none of you guys actually had the guts to look in the mirror. How disappointing.

By the time you're 40, you'd lose your only chance at earning a 5 digit income. You'd blame the gov't for not holding the economy well. When you hit 55, your EPF amount couldn't even last you 10 years. You blame your kids for not providing for you.

Face the reality of this world. Your two hands can shape your future. There's no such thing as 'I wish', or 'I'd like to have,' or 'If my parents were rich' manure. Nothing comes easy, but nothing is impossible.

Why? You guys getting pissed off? Don't be so emotional. You're just getting a little taste of your ignorance and your lack of intelligence. I bet you'd even delete this post. So predictable lowlives.

3:02 PM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

To ghost without name above,

1)About 97% of today's America are made of the 'employed' class. This is because no education system teaches this subject/major called Entrepeneurship. ---WHAT SOURCE u GET
97% American are 'employed' class??from america government website??its from your mouth issit?just like what u all like to do give all the fucking fake info and statistic issit?the rest are crap.Entrepeneurship is learn from business man not from FIXED PYRAMID SYSTEM.how naive u are:).

2)The people in SYN do not blame anyone here for their fanatical fight against this industry---yeah, u are not blaming, just that there is nothing to be blame of when we are speaking the truth of SYN?RZ company.

3)MLM is like any other franchising business--- Sorry to tell u we are not against other MLM, but against RZ/SYN which is a an bad apple among the MLM-a PYRAMID SYSTEM(illegal),and ponzi scheme.

4)The 9th Malaysian Plan actually encourages MLM and Direct Sales as the new means of increasing the country's GDP. Check newspaper write-ups yourselves. ----but not PYARAMID SYSTEM.:).

5)SYN never discouraged students to discontinue studies, nor did the org-yeah, but They encourage people to FULL TIME LB.just slapping ur own mouth la.

6) It's a people's business, and we get rotten eggs from time to time. Its only normal.--- but its not normal when 95% are rotten including u:)

7)*refer to dictionary for the meaning of both words.---pity u because even those two words u need to refer to dictionary before u write ur comment.
8)The best way to know the truth about this business and this org., is by coming up by yourselves and see it---yeah we not only coming out to ur company, but we are wearing SYN pins, even grape symbol and standing beside u and ask u hey Kidz how many years u join SYN.just put ur face up and let us know ur face la.i am revealing any trick by those Fucking LB kidz

We're merely normal businessmen---what u know about bussiness?:).u are just a slave pal.

10)That was how Louis Vuitton got famous in the first place---what benefit u got from LV even U CLAIMED WITH U BAD MOUTH that LV is belongs to part of DCHL?u get discount?no la.i never thought in this world got such stupid and naive people like u

11)By the time you're 40, you'd lose your only chance at earning a 5 digit income---dear fren, by now i am 23, earning 6000 per month from my JOB, 2000rm from my investments in stocks market, 1100rm from rentals, rm 1000 from my HP shop,:).i am 23.and i am not doing LB.



think before you say something la.plz plz plz.this the least i ask from u guys from LB ok?think 1st.issit logical or not.

5:42 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

the same arguements again....been there, done that.

sigh....

5:43 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

To the cowardly anonymous questioning our intelligence,

You want to flame people, put a proper nickname.

What a boring comment you wrote..so much generalization and assumption. Oh, and a dash of motivational talk too.

Yeah, we know we shape our future with our hands...and currently they are busy ensuring the ruin of SYN. Stop us if you can. Use your own hands to ensure your future, because once we are done...your future is gone.

5:53 PM  
Anonymous Prophet of the Anti-Syn said...

godtrix wong,

can...you...stop...
posting...like...
this...it...makes...
my...eyes...hurt...

People cannot understand you because you post like that.

Don't go saying people do not know english until you learn how to post properly.

6:14 PM  
Anonymous Prophet of the Anti-Syn said...

The anon who is trying to flame us,

When I fail my exams, I never blame anyone but myself. Blaming others is for losers like the cultist of SYN.

FYI, there are many other ways to earn 5 digit income besides being a cultist of SYN. Is EVERYONE in SYN a billionaire? HELL NO!!!

You're right that our hands shape our future. It's just that we do not like to sully our hands by being a cultist of SYN. We shape it to how WE like it to be shaped. We do not need a false "god" to tell us how to go on our way unlike you brainless drones at SYN.

When you first join SYN, do you not "wish" to become rich? If you did not "wish" to become rich then I suggest you get out of SYN!

We do not build castles in the sky like you cultist of SYN.

After reading your post, I could say you're piss off as well. The truth hurts, no?

6:34 PM  
Anonymous dan said...

gtrix wong..

Aiyo!.. what are you saying..

7:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to that anon SYN guy,

do you seriously think that SYN is the ONLY way to earn a 5 figure income? bullshit, it is because its the easy way out for most people. If DCHL is such a high profile company, why do they even take in secondary school students? MLM law in Malaysia bans teenagers age below 18 to join MLM. Besides you dont need much qualification to join DCHL do you? Any tom, dick and harry can join it.
Unlike big companies like YTL, Price Waterhouse, KPMG, you need a good qualification and a good profile to enter the company.
DCHL claims its a high profile business by simply taking in anyone as their distributor? Even Mcdonalds distributors has to go through a certain evaluation and yet has to pay a high franchise price before being able to do a business with the brand.
Please dont associate yourself with LV, loser! LV wasn't famous around the world until he appointed Marc Jacobs who brought a new revolution to the brand. You people can't even get discount in LV, dont even know what is the latest LV styles and yet want to talk about LV like you're the big know all. LV LV 24/7, thats the only thing SYN members know. There's so much more good brands out there like Prada, Dunhill, Bally, but name not mentioned because they think LV is the best. You guys should be ashame to try to associate yourselves with LV. Remember DCHL doesnt OWN LV. LV bought over some shares with LB. LB has nothing to do with DCHL (just the official distributor). so stfu.
Do your income pays your EPF? lolx, so by the time you're like 40 and you've finished spending your millions on condos and cars, you probably have nothing left. Besides if you want to look for another job, you cannot state Baron in your resume can you? hahahaha... or experience as... selling Lampe Berger diffusers? Previous job title... conman artiste?
Talk about having some rotten eggs, all of you guys are rotten eggs, and this is based on experience you fool! If someone asked you to commit and do LB FULL time, what does it sound like? You're able to FULL TIME without quitting your studies to make more time for LB? To stay up the whole night at the building and places with your 'colleagues'?
As for the inflation part, a little inflation is needed to boost the economy. Go back and study your economics again. A piramid scheme will cause a country to loose its GDP. Since you're pretty free to debate about our comments, why not tell us why using calculations LB will fail? Since you stress so much on the sucess of this plan, now explain to us what if it fails?

http://ajay.bloglin.com/?p=258

this is calculation proof that LB will fail at the 32th level of recruitment.

8:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to that anon SYN guy,

do you seriously think that SYN is the ONLY way to earn a 5 figure income? bullshit, it is because its the easy way out for most people. If DCHL is such a high profile company, why do they even take in secondary school students? MLM law in Malaysia bans teenagers age below 18 to join MLM. Besides you dont need much qualification to join DCHL do you? Any tom, dick and harry can join it.
Unlike big companies like YTL, Price Waterhouse, KPMG, you need a good qualification and a good profile to enter the company.
DCHL claims its a high profile business by simply taking in anyone as their distributor? Even Mcdonalds distributors has to go through a certain evaluation and yet has to pay a high franchise price before being able to do a business with the brand.
Please dont associate yourself with LV, loser! LV wasn't famous around the world until he appointed Marc Jacobs who brought a new revolution to the brand. You people can't even get discount in LV, dont even know what is the latest LV styles and yet want to talk about LV like you're the big know all. LV LV 24/7, thats the only thing SYN members know. There's so much more good brands out there like Prada, Dunhill, Bally, but name not mentioned because they think LV is the best. You guys should be ashame to try to associate yourselves with LV. Remember DCHL doesnt OWN LV. LV bought over some shares with LB. LB has nothing to do with DCHL (just the official distributor). so stfu.
Do your income pays your EPF? lolx, so by the time you're like 40 and you've finished spending your millions on condos and cars, you probably have nothing left. Besides if you want to look for another job, you cannot state Baron in your resume can you? hahahaha... or experience as... selling Lampe Berger diffusers? Previous job title... conman artiste?
Talk about having some rotten eggs, all of you guys are rotten eggs, and this is based on experience you fool! If someone asked you to commit and do LB FULL time, what does it sound like? You're able to FULL TIME without quitting your studies to make more time for LB? To stay up the whole night at the building and places with your 'colleagues'?
As for the inflation part, a little inflation is needed to boost the economy. Go back and study your economics again. A piramid scheme will cause a country to loose its GDP. Since you're pretty free to debate about our comments, why not tell us why using calculations LB will fail? Since you stress so much on the sucess of this plan, now explain to us what if it fails?

http://ajay.bloglin.com/?p=258

this is calculation proof that SYN will fail at the 32th level of recruitment.

8:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So much anger. These are the things that make people despise you.

Besides you dont need much qualification to join DCHL do you? Any tom, dick and harry can join it.
Unlike big companies like YTL, Price Waterhouse, KPMG, you need a good qualification and a good profile to enter the company.

YTL, Price Waterhouse and KPMG are existing companies. They only hire employees, not owners. Why do I even reply you...
The reason we talk about LV is because their advertising method here in East Asia is through piracies. Piracies being not-so positive methods.
Mcdonalds distributors has to go through a certain evaluation and yet has to pay a high franchise price before being able to do a business with the brand.
SYN requires that new distributors undergo all available training before starting their business. But some people went out and did these to you guys the wrong way. RM2.5k as a franchising fee.. Too expensive an investment to employee-minded people, I suppose.

You're able to FULL TIME without quitting your studies to make more time for LB?
Again I feel stupid talking to you. FULL TIME means that you do not have anything else to do besides ONE JOB/BUSINESS...
I know inflation is good for the economy. But it'll be bad for you if your income cannot keep up to it. You're not an economist, are you? Figures..
Every business has a plan. The plan comes with taglines like: NO GUARANTEES, and NO EASY MONEY. SYN members who promise you these two things, hold THEM liable. Sue them for misrepresentation. You can, you know. The plan is not failing. It's performing for those who wants it to work for them. I can tell you how much I earn, and it'll piss you off. I can tell you how much difficulties I went through getting here, and you'll say BULLSHIT. Talking to you is pointless.
No one said it is the only way to make billions. Heck, no one said you can make billions. We work, and we get justifiable income.
Do your income pays your EPF? lolx, so by the time you're like 40 and you've finished spending your millions on condos and cars, you probably have nothing left
I feel like FAQ. I can practically teach you guys how to grow up. MOney makes money. We do not simply buy cars and houses with all our money. We invest them. Money markets, real estate markets, offshore accounts. it'll be very dumb to use them all up buying cars and expensive stuff.

We SYN members do not simply 'wish' to be rich. We intend to invent a brainwashing machine and zap it onto all of you guys, turning the whole of KL into mindless zombies who'd walk right into HLA, handing us the money.. That will make us filthy rich!
But what's the point. We don't want people's money. We want people's commitment. That's what drives MLM. Try it out. You might just like it.. haha. Have a nice day, guys.

10:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SYN had already figured out all the loopholes and have professionals to make the whole thing legalized (to make a strawberry cake out of bloody shit!).they have come across negativities in HK as well as taiwan and know how to defend or revive themselves using the same tactics applied in HK and TW. Now is Malaysia and maybe the next victim will be our neighbour under deloping countries.. The money keep rolling from country to country using the same method to "kao tim". a very skillful "lou chin". The whole package is designed to lure ppl(slaves) to join and then provide them "positive" affirmation or jargons or unrealisitic dreams and hopes(brainwash/hypnotize/NLP) to make them unconsciously serve or work for the boss as a loyal servant(money making robots).Normally ppl who got into this scam are mainly naive, greedy, low self esteem, or low energy ppl.These ppl are easily trap into the illusion of getting rich fast but ultimately end up to be "yan zha/fai yan" if they are seriously brain washed or totally hopeless. The best way is still to project out awareness to as many ppl as possible for precaution!We must not only talk but to really take serious action to help ppl out of the scam! Keep up the good work!

10:29 PM  
Anonymous Prophet of the Anti-Syn said...

To the anon,

So you go to join SYN for the fun? Not to make money?

Lol! Let's face it the only reason for joining SYN is to make imaginary riches. Unless your GF asked you to join? Lol!

We here do not succumbed so easily to peer pressure mind you.

Rightly said, people do not only "wish", people make their wishes come true by taking necessary actions.

So don't you go flaming others as most of you SYNners are also "wishing" to be rich.

Without a "wish" there can be no ambition.

10:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://ajay.bloglin.com/?p=258
You can visit the above to read the whole interesting post.

Before you ask, Lampe Berger is not a new kind of burger from the lampe(some kinda animal? Lol) It’s a French word and therefore pronounced ‘Lamp Ber-jeh’. Well, that’s the best i can come up with.

I did some blog surfing and came across Steven Yip’s blog where he practically lambasted the idea of Lampe Berger-maybe not the product itself but the ‘networks’ created to lure people to ‘invest’ and earn more money. Beginning of a very promising career? Heh.

The first time i heard about this thing was last year, when a rather close friend introduced me this ‘concept’ of recruiting people, you don’t have to sell anything, and earn money. Lots of money. When i asked him what pyramid scheme or direct selling thing he wants me to join, he just said “Lampe Berger”. I was like.. Lampe wat? How’d you spell that Berger? He said B-E-R-G-E-R and the only real Berger that came across my mind was Patrick Berger (you know, that ex-Liverpool Czech player. He’s good ) I haven’t heard of Pat Berger for a long time so i thought he retired from football and started his own network of direct selling. Hehe.

Anyways, the idea is to ‘invest’ like RM2,500 initially and you become a Baron i think. Wow, now i have a title in front of my name! Or is it a franchisee first? Beats me. I really thought he was reviving the spirit of playin Utopia (you know, that online game)
I was rather disappointed that it was a close friend who wanted to recruit me into joining. Even wanted to show me their office in KL and said perhaps i’d like to have tea with their Duke or Marquis to let me handle their operation in Melbourne. How you might ask? Get those rich Asian kids to join, pump in more money, and i have my living expenses (and maybe) university fees taken care of. And drive my own Porsche or any car of my choice, with lots of chicks around. Heh, but i don’t even own a driving licence yet.

At first this idea really enthralled me. Imagine not having to work, and you can still earn money? All you have to do is go befriend some rich Shanghainese kids and get them to pump money into ‘investing’ the Lampe Berger scam thing. Too bad i was too stupid to understand the whole concept of not selling anything and just earn lots of money by recruiting. I decided i was not smart and good enough to join the Lampe Berger thing (actually joining this network called DCHL.. hmm.. or was it Steven Yeam’s network). So i resented the idea and kept my RM2,500 (i don’t even have that amount of money!) And i was rather jealous when i read Steven Yip’s blog about those having success in LB driving BMW 3 series (BMW happens to be my favourite car) and enjoying life with lots of money to splash.

But i’m a happy man because i managed to ’save’ that RM2,500 although it never belonged to me. Furthermore, you’d get brainwashed to pump in further Rm30,000 ( if i remember correctly) to bypass one rank (that don’t sound nice at all) to jump to another rank. My friend convinced me that all you have to do is have tea/coffee with people, and with your PR skills, you’d be earning a lot of money. More than your father’s making he said. Hmm.. then how many cups of tea i need to have before i can meet Queen Elizabeth 2 and be her best friend? *Rolls on the ground*

IMHO, this LB thing is just a recreation of a pyramid scheme using a more ‘real’ product like the real lampe berger which was developed early in France for use in hospitals (they act as sort of air fresheners to kill bacteria and later developed into aromatherapy). I Googled for lampe berger and the results seem to dull to earn me lots of money. Heck, even Wikipedia does not have an article on lampe berger. If it’s so good, surely people would’ve written something on it. I’m sure the French would

Also came across this article . I bet the guy who wrote the comment comparing LB’s concept and McD’s is one hell of a LB fanatic. Now i’m convinced what type of people get lured into the LB scam. People who think LB acts the same McDs acts the same as LB and you REALLY don’t have to work to get rich. Hello… McDs thrive because of its products, even though i prefer Hungry Jacks better. You really think that people’d want to get new McDs franchise if the burgers taste like crap? The products are what built the base of McDs operations as what it has achieved today.
It’s like what i learnt in uni. Creating a niche market for people who want to be recognized by status. And to have status, you need to work hard. Just that the ideology propagated here is not to work really hard. The LB network guarantees you so many things that you’re even willing to dump a steady Rm2,000 job (and borrow another Rm500 from your kid’s piggy bank to sum up to that RM2,500 you need to ‘invest’), or go on war with your parents, siblings, relatives after they convince you that this thing is just another scam and is not long term.

11:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i was really lucky cuz i ALMOST pumped in 30K last month b4 the 45K. It was this close i nearly step into the con zone. Thank god help me my mum(know nothing at all about LB) that is going to lend me 30k read the sin chew that day itself when i was supposed to get the money.She refused to lend it to me right after she read it.So closed! i think about it, i was really blessed. Otherwise , iwould surely feel despair and pressured without knowing how to pay back to my mum now!realisation suddenly comes after that, i felt so loosen and free right after i clear cut telling my fren(enroller) that i am not going to invest 30k. thanks for my ancestors for blessing me on this!

12:20 AM  
Anonymous dan said...

The above comment from anon,
shows what a cultist nature is SYN is. Almost got the money from mum for 30k count.

Now he feels relieved for not "investing". Shows that the emotions and false hopes are the motivator.
The facts shows it is lousy.

And to the SYN anon,

Another person in la la land dreaming.. You the person who believe in the system now. You will be hard hid because you will discover this dream is false. And you might just blame this site and others if you can not get your network to grow.
Well i have news for you. The company knows this fact now, that even if distributor dun get their dreams, the company still make their money.

People can join to get 2-3 person to join and it grows. Then the tree stops. People lose. Others can sign up somewhere. Company always makes money.That is their system.

The distributor who quits. Let say there is 500. You can stack this 500 on one tree. And somebody in there would have made some money. Now these people are scattered all over the network. Nobody makes anything. If system so good, why people are not stack up nicely in pryamid tree. You have people coming in, going out. Company cons you..

And if you believe if you can get 5 figure net income in SYN, those are lies. Maybe you can get for a few months (if you are damn fortunate). But never sustainable, would not even hold that income for a year.

Business holders.. yeah.. rite.. does not mean anything..
Cant you see those are nice words and labelling for false pretensions.
Anybody can be business owners. Go lar register enterprise company for 10 ringgit. As least register with goverment. Got some weight in it.

Who acknowledge you as business owners? SYN? You say yourselve?
The guy on stage say the word "business owners".. and you think you are?

It is very annoying to see my countrymen to be influence by words, by talks, by somebody who is just repeating things.

1:32 AM  
Anonymous Jack lim said...

hey anon above,

Thank God u dont invest:).

to those who havent join LB but were ask to join, u can refer to all our comments and make the wisest choice:)b4 u regrete.

No point argue.

Must Halau steven Yeam the cunning Fox out of this country la

1:54 AM  
Anonymous dan said...

Stephen Yeam..

How does it feel to know that many people think you are crook?

And that goes to SYN members who "force" their downline to invests to count..

and the same for Marqui who talks about 5 figure income but on that month you are not making 5 figure..

Crooks!

2:16 AM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

To the anonymous

Mcdonalds distributors has to go through a certain evaluation and yet has to pay a high franchise price before being able to do a business with the brand.

SYN requires that new distributors undergo all available training before starting their business. But some people went out and did these to you guys the wrong way. RM2.5k as a franchising fee.. Too expensive an investment to employee-minded people, I suppose.

HAHAHAHAHa....i paid RM2.5k to go in among you guys and steal your secrets...fool.....and i'm an employee....beat that.

Listening to you guys trying to beat some life into a dead horse, just tickles me with how arrogant but ultimately foolish some people can be. You tell me, SYN wants to build people leaders....what trait do you have to be a leader?

You're able to FULL TIME without quitting your studies to make more time for LB?

Again I feel stupid talking to you. FULL TIME means that you do not have anything else to do besides ONE JOB/BUSINESS...

i work in an engineering firm in the mornings, teach piano lessons on weeknights...and teach yoga on weekends. Sometimes, when people ask, i introduce insurance to them as I am holding a CFP attached to a major insurance company. All of these, i make money.

so tell me, do i have 1 full time jobs, 3 part time jobs? or 4 full time jobs or 4 part time jobs?

3:25 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

Those SINners always say you should go to their office to find out more but when someone intelligent shoot them all the questions in their office, and if they can no longer provide CONvincing answers,they will say,

"Look, are you going to join if I can satisfy all your questions ?"

"You are wasting our time, can you write them down all in papers so that I can reply you altogether ?"

"I can show you that a doctor mentioned that smoking is actually good for health, are you going to believe him ?"

"You want to believe in papers and negative news ? Don't you know that they write such things just to sell more because people like to read negative things ?"

6:59 AM  
Blogger anthraxxxx said...

Once a SYNner, always a SINNER.

9:49 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

to that anon SYN guy,

Is been a long time i nvr been "here" since I watch semi final in world cup.

I read ur post and I know tat u r the most "stupid" fella i ever know.Therefore bcos of u r stupid and tats y u dare not to put a nick and use the word "anonymous" to hide around.

Yes,u no need any qualification to join DCHL/SYN.Bcos DCHL/SYN wants ur money,ur family money,ur frens money and any1 money as well.They only want money and who in SYN cares about ur qualification?

n tats all la...I have nothing tro say to this "stupid ppl" liao.Sayonara!

1:05 AM  
Anonymous lonely said...

As the author of the email, sorry for snoozing during the World Cup.

This post is mainly to clarify some of the Godtrix's enquiries. Okay okay, I know world cup is around and the links have too much contents for him(and some others) to find the relevant infos.

The email is mainly to emphasize that SYN's idea of 'network marketing' wasn't something new, and its similiarity with Koscot's pyramid structure, although I might say that the blog owner choose a really 'interesting' title :)

1. I understand that Koscot is LEGAL as a valid business at that time in a sense that there's no specific law regulating MLM. Actually, IIANM, Koscot is first hit by SEC, maybe because there is no clear law against pyramid schemes during that time.

2. 30 years are mentioned to show that this scheme is old. However, looking at http://www.dsam.org.my/pyramid.html, DCHL still seems to mimic pyramid scheme operation and its legality is at best questionable.

3. Please notice the word 'encourage' in the original post. Buying the 'Supervisor' title is not compulsory, i.e. you can be a 'Co-ordinator' by paying entrance fee of $25 and around another $100 for demo pack. Please check the mlmlaw link about the old and new plan. Maybe someone might elaborate on the similiarities of the structure with DCHL.

4. Reward is equalled to "retail value" in Koscot or PV in DCHL. Both are equally dubious disguises of overprice items.

5. Same thing as No. 4. Koscot's pyramid revenue also hids behind its overpriced cosmetics. Same system.

Come and chant with me: It's the same old theme since 1970s, in your head, in your head, it's pyramid... Okay, I give up. I'm a lousy song composer.

Good day if you really happen to be patient enough to read all this.

9:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO ANTI LAMPE: so soon all the jail full with SYN member, then all sport car park in front off jail. then can show their "hei shai"

But anti lampe member still drive proton saga park in front Giant shopping (sometime buy toilet paper) then on-line if feel free.

10:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately their sports cars will be repossessed, lol!

Then no money to buy toilet paper also, lol!

10:33 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

to the silly anonymous (yes, you are silly to actually make such comments)

1. Our proton saga won't get repossessed because it was bought within our means or owned by the family. Your sports car still need to repay loan.

2. So, park in front of Giant buy groceries. what's the problem? Don't you buy groceries? or do you beg outside Giant for anti-SYN members to give you?

3. Yeah, jails will be full of SYNners...and you know what the hardcore prisoners do to new, soft wannabe rich brats....pick up the soap, boy...

12:43 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

to anony above: Hey u LB french supporter....I know DCHL/SYN ppl support FRANCE team in World Cup FINAL is it? Bcos is ur favourite team!

But the result shows that ITALY WON! DCHL/SYN favourite teams lose wor...

1 day if all SYN ppl into jail.Steven Yeam will use his head to head butt all his SYN ppl for not doing well (like Zidane head butt Materazzi in WC final)

So,u prepare to be head butt by Steven Yeam as well.Dun worry,I issue "red card" for Steven Yeam and a "yellow card" for u as well!

FORZA ITALIA!!!

1:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi bernard: cakap bola, tidur bola, minum coca cola. use pempers lap ur penis.

5:56 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

FUCK u anony....I watch bola better than u....suck ur mom's bola!

8:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

steven yeam is sohai, anti lampe also sohai because argure with sohai.

9:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ANON,another stupid guy, talk very long but talk with anti lampe useless guy, they just suck their mother pukima, feel very high, they no intresting with ur talk.

we already fail in the hole of their mother, they always said fuck inside their mother hole.

9:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i think all these are shit!!!!
you all deserve jail!!!!
you all jealous because you all fail to do what ARCH DUKE STEVEN STEVEN YEAM
have DONE.
He is a successful businessman and you are the LOSER!
godtrix and jack are PIGS
because they are NO BRAIN!

12:15 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

SYNners,

hijo de puta! hablar es ingles?

Non?

dear SYN anonymous,

you don't understand what I just wrote? well, i felt same thing reading your comments too...it looks like english...but is too rude and nonsensical to be considerate proper english.

Oh...and if conning friends and family of their money is the mark of a successful businessman, i'll rather be a loser than a SYNner.

5:50 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

hey SYNner!

French Team lose in World cup final...FORZA ITALIA!!!

and SYN will lose also 1 day,then STeven YEam will use head butt on all of u!

9:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to bernard: bullshit again

4:45 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

is true! u dun admit italy win ur favourite "frech" team u moron!

7:33 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

i wonder where godtrix wong went....

7:59 AM  
Anonymous TEH POWAH said...

We probably hurt his feelings, lol!

The boy was getting flamed by both Anti-LB and Pro-LB people!

Dreams of becoming a lawyer, lol!!!

11:12 PM  
Blogger Ni9htl0rd said...

loyar buruk more like it.

3:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hello bernard, do u want customer service???

1:18 AM  
Anonymous TEH POWAH said...

If he want's service, he'll take it somewhere else.

You've probably been serviced by steven yeam, lol!

8:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No progress from Steve & Gang on knocking down SYN/DCHL... same old whole load of crap everyday...
- 24th July 2006-

1:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

check out nightlord's interest (click on his id):
Shadows, lies, intelligence, counter-intelligence, deception, grey areas, unknown, spin, deceit, subterfuge, sabotage, assasination, anarchy, chaos, death.
Choas!! LIES!! DECEPTION!! ulala.. your'e practising it real well in this blog - Chaos & LIES , in joining SYN to (konon) find it's loop hole and save humanity by shooting down SYN-DECEPTION!!I'd be stupid to listen and believe this kinda person.
Nightlord, you're darn blur enough to talk about helping people when you yourself need help more than others.
hurry up, go change your id before people starts clicking on it!!!
oh btw, why do u need to wait for the pay forward system to see if it'll be successful? i thought you intention is to shoot down SYN!! Why the change of mind now? Wanna see if you can make money from his new plan?! (His last comments in "Fight Over Lampe Berger")

7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

btw nightlord,
since you're the double agent here, and i'm sure you have attended Steven Yeam's talk on Pay-Forward System, why not you share with your fellow hardcore anti-lampe berger & fellow blog readers here what the plan is all about?

8:22 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

to SYN anony!

GO N FUCK UR MOTHER UPSIDE DOWN!!!!

1:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No progress from Steve & Gang on their so called 'quest' in knocking down SYN/DCHL... same old whole load of crap everyday...
- 27th July 2006-

12:38 AM  
Blogger Dylan said...

I have seen so many people are talking bad about the distribution network of DCHL, as known as Steven Yeam's Network, and registered under the Direct Sales Act Of Malaysia under the name of RZ Corporation.

Well, all the names are fishy enough to get all the new comers confused. Why should a company use so many different names just to run one single business? This really makes people start thinking and doubt it.

Well, we can clearly see that no one is seriously going after the products, that is Lampe Berger itself, as well as Estebel and some others products that is being distributed by this fucking company. There is nothing wrong with the products although some (not all) of the fragrance may cause side-effects to consumers. Since there are a lot of products in the market also have this kind of harm. What I'm trying to make clear here is that everyone is complaining about the way they distribute their products. And not the products itself. Because they simply ask people to invest with the seed-money of RM2345.00 and RM30,000.00 in order to run this business and recognized as a position holder in its organization and get people to join under.

Well, there are still a lot of MLM companies out there which they only requires us to start this kind of business with RM57, RM75, or RM85, with a simple starter kit with VCDs, other relevant product knowledge booklets, and so on, for us to start sharing our business. Besides, it's a lifetime-membership after we pay only-once for the membership fee. (to those who is still active in the market, go out sharing quite often, and know what is going on around, will surely know what I'm talking about and which are those MLM companies that I'm trying to say)

A legitimate MLM business would requires us to build our network slowly (or fast if you can) by investing our time, effort, and energy after we joined with our membership fee and we will continuously to self-consume our own products (which normally are household products, health products, and beauty products to ensure repeat-sales) to better understand its benefits and share it with relatives, friends, and anyone who we think that they need it to expand our network and increase our network associates.

There is only very low risk. As low as the RM57 to RM85. So low, till it seems like no risk at all.

An average person who is really working on an MLM business would actually earn a substantial income after a few years time, depending on how much time and effort he has put in it. Sometimes luck and timing is also quite important. Normally they would consume/use their own products and understand its benefits before they share and recommend. They can choose to work on it as a part-time at the beginning when their group is still very small and the bonus paid is still too little for them to quit their current job. It is important to only quit his/her job only when their side-income as a part-timer started to take over their sole-income by triple.

The hardest part for this kind of business is to face rejections, to handle objections, to follow-up, to provide after-sale-service, and to sacrifice entertainment life and personal time to motivate and help down-lines with their mindset, attitude, and rejection problems.

Well, through my observation, there a quite a few MLM companies that had done very well in Malaysia although the number of current MLM companies in Malaysia now is up to 700 and over. Most of them don't have unique ranges of products, interesting marketing plan, and a strong system to run so that they won't grow any bigger than each other. Only those that could come out with products that can help consumers with diabetic, high-blood pressure, heart-attack, stroke, kidney failure and other health problems will gain reputation and continue its business throughout monthly repeat sales volume, and grow bigger and bigger by legally selling goods to the public, not only in within its pyramid.(which means, selling from up-lines to down-lines and to new distributors only)

DCHL is not doing like any other legitimate MLM companies. They set a plan to force-cum-persuade new members to pay RM2.5K and/or RM30K to buy up Count. Well, I need not to elaborate too much on these. Well, of course, I believe that very soon, all these scams will be taken down by so many people in here and out side of here. Now I can see many people are going mad on this DCHL and Lampe Berger.

They can fool people for some time, but they can't fool people for all the time.

For those who are in the DCHL business now, please think about law of average, and moral values in this kind of business.

The product doesn't help anyone, all the members like to show off by going to Segafredo's, CoffeBeans, and any other classic-like pub and cafe. They already spend so much of their money (mostly from parents) to invest, and haven't get back their turn-over, and already are spending their money abundantly going to such places and act for new members to see that they are actually making a lot of money. Fools! Normally rich people would not want to shows off because they are afraid of people knowing that they are rich. Only those wanabe-rich would like to show off how much they have. In other words, they are only buying things they don't need, spending money they haven't earned, to impress people that they don't like. What a bunch of DCHL fools! Lolz...

Feel free to give out any comment on this. Have great days ahead and God bless!

2:52 PM  
Blogger Dylan said...

I believe there are many MLM (or so called direct sales, network marketing, or networking business) companies in Malaysia. Including DCHL is just one of them.

And well, since I've been involved in this industry since I was still a teenager and as raw as any new comer into this field. I'm glad that I joined into right and legitimate company (not DCHL or any pyramid schemes) and learn a lot of useful skills and knowledge from its training and seminars. And having a right person to guide me through all the ups and downs was just wonderful enough for me to learn and share at the same time.

Having to believe the genius that has been in this industry, it really changes my point of views on most people's lifestyle nowadays. Well, I believe that one day, this MLM industry will take over many of the other marketing ways and no advertisement is longer needed to sell their wide ranges of products. All the advertising cost will be saved and spend on its network group or its organization filled with its companies' distributors. All the bonuses paid to all the distributors for selling their products are the cost that they once spend on advertising companies.

There are a lot of things using the concept of a pyramid and a lot of people are confused by it. Everything in the law of nature is almost like a pyramid. Examples are, the ecosystem, in a company staffs' positions, in a school, or anything that can be call as an organization. "Pyramid scheme", having this name on all those scam and illegitimate MLM companies making people think and use the word "pyramid" without a proper understanding on its concept. The concept of a pyramid can be applied on many things. Not only on "pyramid scheme" or "get-rich-quick scheme".

For those who know too little about MLM, please don't make too much insulting statements on this industry. There are a lot of genuine and fake MLM companies that need to be spot-out before we can actually make any statement on them.

Pyramid schemes nowadays they come in so many forms that they may be difficult for us to recognize it immediately. And not to say about all the new comers(especially all the new members in DCHL), they are not capable of doing it so because most of them are blinded by their own greed since they are still new to all the big numbers that had been shown to them by their up-lines and by their BOT(Business-Opportunity-Talk) presentation. To spot out an illegitimate MLM company, it requires a certain level of knowledge in this industry and it needs a certain period of time to do so. Of course, this kind of knowledge people won't simply share without having any reason to their own benefits. In other words, when someone teaches you all these things, it's like putting money into your pocket. Only those genuine MLM companies will teach and share this kind of knowledge with its fellow distributors under its company in order to improve their knowledge so that they won't fall into other fake MLM companies which promise a much more faster substantial turn-over with less hard-work. (normally a genuine MLM companies' business is harder and slower to build comparing to fake ones, because the turn-over only based on retails and actually selling product to end consumers)

All of the pyramid schemes are sharing one overriding characteristic. They always promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their programs, and are not based on profits from any retail or actual sale of products to the public. Some schemes may seem to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their actual pyramid scheme structure.

There are two signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme:
i) Inventory loading
ii)Lack of retail sales.

Inventory loading occurs when a company's incentive program forces new distributors to buy more products than they could actually sell, and most often, they are all at inflated prices. If this occurs throughout the company's distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to the public. The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory that simply accumulates in their store room. A lack of retail sales is also a sign of that a pyramid exists. Many pyramid schemes will claim that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid structure or to new distributors joining the structure, not to consumers out in the general public.

Well, it's wise not to be easily blinded by our own greed. Although money can make our lifestyle better, but it's doesn't mean anything to us. Except only to our own greed. Imagine if we live in this world alone, what does money mean to us? It's nothing to show off when we are alone. It's just because we are living in an organization, and we always compare ourselves to each other, then we tend to feel that money could actually make us live a better lifestyle and to show off sometimes by buying things we don't need, to impress people we don't like. It's really funny, and we could actually feel how childish we actually are when we think about ourselves on these.

The DCHL culture is to love money, and money will love you in return. What a crap of this quote! I went for a talk and there is a guy by the name Wong, giving off an insight of what is MLM. Well, the talk was perfect and it was really an eye-opening to all the new comers to the MLM industry. But in fact, all the MLM companies do the same including all the genuine ones. Except for the way they sell their products. And the way they distribute and as well as teaching their distributors the real moral value based on humanitarian ground. As we hear-said, most of the dukes in DCHL they earn money from those misery people. It's sad why people could be easily blinded by their own greed. I think it's time for us to stop this kind of trap on all those youngsters and inexperience MLMers.

All the best to those who have been putting up hard work going against the DCHL/SYN network distribution so far. Great job! We will never give up and will be on-looking for any more of this kind of pyramid schemes in the public. We should make a proper study, investigate and keep our eyes on any new MLM company coming into the market.

So far through my observation, there are only a few MLM companies that could actually do very well in the market and bring in more and more beneficial products to us Malaysian consumers from other countries. And some of the products could actually save many people from spending too much money on doctors and specialist regarding their health problems. Such as kidney failures, diabetic, stroke, no-cure-found skin disease, and so on. Well, great job to all those MLM companies!

3:09 PM  
Anonymous i luv money said...

wutever happens,its thread oredy spread in sabah wif initial rm2.5k instead of rm30k.all i noe is we invest money to it n we deserves money on our own..im thinking wasnt it as same as we invest our money 2 d othr company?4 da sake we want da big amount of money?if so, is it wrong?

d only thing i accept bout dis so-called-scam is d value of 1point=rm1.oo which makes it more popular then other pyramid scheme..
aiya~fcukinly confused.a fren of mine ordy joined n i m still thinking..btw,very gewd info n feedback u've got!

5:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow you all are fighting over SYN with paintball and water gun eh? grow up kids. Think carefully and don't simply talk shit behind people if you dont understand alot about different business. If you talk shit about SYN it's really harm. Did SYN talk shit about you?

I see you all swear alot maybe you all are uneducation and misunderstand about this business.

If you are unhappy with SYN what you get when you posted in here. Think carefully guys.

6:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow, negative blog,
save urself frm negative blog,
they will suck positive energy,
they spend their time to make sure
SYN is a loser business,
i'm doubt if a winner complain,
and trying to get things right by
words, not by action,
i'm lucky tat i found tiz website,
coz there is still many negative
about SYN, the market is still
available, thanks for the
challenge, u make us improve,
pls complain as much as u can,
i feel funny n fun to read
those complain..

8:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the different between
Steven Yeam n Steven Yip
is not a big different between
name.. but is a big different
between everything..

8:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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