I received an email from John, who was in Lampe Berger business. ---
He just wants others to know how deceiving is this nature of business.
On another note, you can sense that a lot of people are aware of this lampe berger
business, and giving the cold shoulders to it.
Hi i'm John, I joined LB for 2 months already and i decide to refund
those uplines are really bugging me a lot for upgrading to count which
RM30k (Now no more offer i guess, its RM36-38k if i'm not mistaken).
They told me its impossible for you to success without cloning the
system, and i did some research and found its true that you must clone
order to success, but what they told me when i haven't join is totally
different, they told me RM2k is just a small amount that you can borrow
easily from your friend or family, they even ask you to borrow from
sharks who are relatives of upline in LB so we cannot complaint them.
I never give up, i keep trying everyday to meet friends and relatives
talk to them about this business, but i found they all are avoiding to
me and some even don't want to pick up their phones when i call them.
a part of MLM will really make all your friends run away from you, you
start to feel lonely.
Another thing is the attitude of your uplines are totally different
to before you join and after u joined. You will feel like you are
them to help you to find prospect and whatever they say you must listen
else you're dead.
Lastly, about the refund procedure, i called to the office and ask for
whole procedure about refund. I'm not sure about the RM30k but RM2345
1. Write a letter to the company to tell them you want to resign or
an account termination form provided in the company.
2. If all the products you bought are given by the company, you will
invoice (a few yellow papers) and you must photostat it and submit
with the termination form/letter to the counter in the company.
3. You must not bring the products while doing step 1 and step 2, they
contact you few days later then only you bring the items for refund.
4. Make sure the products are in good condition and not used before.
5. Around one month after you pass them the products you will recieve a
cheque with the amount of 90% from the total you paid.
If the products are bought in the company instead of given by your
then you still got some hope. Well, still looks "ok" right? At least
When your upline bring you to buy the products, they use their own
buy it with the reason "discount". The total PV you need to become a
franchisee is 2345PV = RM2345, so if your upline buy for you, you can
discount of 20% (franchisee discount), 29% (baron discount), 38% (count
discount) from RM2345. So the products can say are bought by them even
paid, the invoice only have their names, they transfer the PV to you
and they demand cash from you cause they buy for you so they don't have
Then the problem comes, there's another refund method for situation
procedure as below:
1. Return the products to your upline.
2. Your upline must pay you the amount of the total products you're
3. Your upline will take the products to the company and refund. How
refund i'm not sure but i guess its something similar like above.
Well, i guess your upline is not stupid enough to do that.....
Here are some advice for you guys who being asked to join LB:
1. Do not follow them to their company at Menara HLA near KLCC. If you
DO NOT being impressed by them with their bullshit fake story.
2. If you joined, before anything goes worse please do not go for their
gatherings and get your refund as soon as possible. They say treat you
where also don't go, mamak/KTV/movie where also, its not enjoying at
its sharing you some fake stories to make you exited and convince you
upgrade to RM30k.
3. Do not sign the application form when they asked you. They will say,
is just something to prove that you are temporary my prospect and no
force you to join them. They will not let you have the chance to read
agreement behind the form, it wrotes behind, quite small..."No.3(i) I
to pay the membership fee and other registration charges currently
by the company".
4. Never ever go to anywhere when someone who is in LB calls you, its a
5. If you insist to join, please do not let your upline do for you. The
invoice must have your name in it.
6. Do not get confuse while they telling you the marketing plan, they
make you confuse so that you will think what they said is all true.
How they convince you to join?
1. Someone in LB will find his upline for help if they can't convince
alone. He most probably will find his upline who have a nice car to
2. Your friend will not say anything but agree at everything his upline
telling you. Even his upline made a mistake on the plan he also will
3. They will start talking to you normally to get close to you.
4. His upline will simply give a reason to walk away from you a while.
your friend will T-Up (Talk good things) about his upline to impress
5. When he finish explain the marketing plan to you, your friend will
straightaway take out an application form and probably will say "what
you waiting for? lets join us" something like that.
I hope everyone who wants to join LB can read my experience in LB