Sunday, April 09, 2006

Comments from LB

This is the longest comment from an LB member. Lampe Berger Help has decided to put up comments to it.

Anonymous said...

after read u guys post,i had made up a conclusion.

1st of all,it's not bout LB or wat!

yes,we can still live without LB or this company!

but think back,we ppl,wat are we looking for all the times?

1st,how to jump off from bitter life!

2nd,how to find happiness during our life.

How do you define bitter life? How do you define happiness?

Happiness to some would be money. Can money buy a love?

Happiness to some would be sharing a quality time with family and friends,

regardless of money or race nor religion.

think back!why our ancient were led by others races?

because we weren't unite!

I have heard this from one of the Lampe Berger seminars.

did u guys think of it?

y DCHL starts the MLM biz from S.E.A country?especially from Chinese region country?

cause he know,chinese are the smartest race in this world!

but so unfortunately,we chinese act oversmart.

Chinese aint the smartest but the most hardworking.

To lable smartest, the Jews are smarter. Read more darling.

yes,money is not everything,but everything is money!

since human race created money,problems n problems were popped out!

before the revolution begin,we're education blinded,all we got just the strength to survive.

but after revolution,ppl get to school,get educated,and the world change tremendously.

lots of problems occur after revolution,for example materialistic,ppl pursuit for a better life.

but the initial race that jump out from their race was the white skin races.

they came n conquer,they treat us as servant.that's until now they still lead the world.

You are so close minded!!

look back at us,chinese!

we're the smartest n hardworking race in this world.but y we still far left behind?

Oh you mentioned it here.. :)

cause we don't unite!

back to the topic,y DCHL starts from ASEAN country?

cause it's a opportunity for us to conquer back europe n others regions market.

Conquer? We don't need MLM to conquer back europe and other regrions market.

Please think out of the box!! If MLM is the way, China would have given up Industrialization

and forget about their country's property development nor asking for foreign investment.

MLM is an fastgrowing industry.

but not every ppl see the potential behind it!

sure it got pro n contra!

no things in this world perfect!

think back,most company we work for were from outsider,mean those international company.

Oh, means you worked for an international company? Or maybe have not even worked before?

dude,we're making money for those "guai lou".

Dude, you are making money or shall I say, chanelling money to those "Taiwanese"(DCHL)..

Do you understand what "Leakages" (link:http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=Country+Leakages&btnG=Search) means in business?

we're not making money for ourself!

think back,all the years we were's well educated!

but think back,y we need education?

to build up our personality,not to insult against each other!

we were educated to learn the basic skill of living!

to respect each others!

It is an insult to oneself, who are well educated, but not using what they are being educated

to contribute back to the society.

so y we chinese fight against each other?

Justify this. It is against UN-ETHICAL distributors.!

back to the topic!

LB!it's a scam,some said!

1st of all,LB was just a product name,it's not a company or what!

It's just a product n with only 1 factory at France.It's a trademark of France!Even our Prime Minister use this product,so,nth wrong with the product!

Yes, indeed it is a product. Lampe Berger or LB is being said to potray DCHL or RZ Corporation or Steven Yeam Network(SYN).

People would understand better this way.. so do you.

n the Marketing Plan.It was a fantastic marketing plan!

so,nth wrong also with the plan!

Indeed fantastic Marketing Plan. A plan that let one to invest RM 30,000 and thus when asked for re-fund, uplines

delay the process and so forth. Read HERE. http://lampebergerhelp.blogspot.com/2006/04/no-solid-foudation-of-business.html#c114458807217933014

Steven.. insert the link :)

now,the industry,MLM.

MLM was just a industry or can say a sales method use by a company to promote their products,same as other business method!Cause with this method,they can save cost like advertising and so on but give it to the distributor who able to sells the products!

I do agree..

and bout recruiting!

which industry in this world doesn't recruit ppl one?

all the things in this world were created because of human's demand!

even though if one day u open an biz,u will definitely recruit ppl!

they get paid by working with u!n u earn more than them,doesn't it a pyramid scheme also???

face the reality of life!

Now I don't really agree. Which other industry is recruiting? Alot I say.

My turn to ask. Which industry that does recruit, and pay regularly, although, it is not a big sum?

And which does not?

And this industry has a limit and which industry doesn't have a limit?

the pioneer always earn more than others under them!that's the fact!

did u ever seen a CEO earn less than a normal worker?

but the hard work puts by the CEO,did u guys ever think of that?

y he can earn more than us???

Because, he builds the company from scratch dude! Tony Fernandes for example!

That is a real solid business you are talking against my dear friend.!! I got no further comment.

ok,talk bout the syn and the 30k.

SYN was a network under Steven Yeam.In this network,we've learn more than just making money!it's not like u guys think,a scam or money game!but maybe they are some guys misuse the syn as a tool of making money!

There aren't any "maybe" but a mere "YES, THERE ARE".

Read the problems HERE http://lampebergerhelp.blogspot.com

actually from the education taught by syn.we've manage to find the truth of ourselves!

What truth? You are blinded by money and only money. Take some time and reflect my friend.

think back,y we came to this world?

is that our life just working 9 to 5 n retired after 65?

i think all of u guys sure will say no!

we came to this world to enjoy,right?

but in the process of living,sure we'll encounter a lot of problems!

If you labeling working 9-5 is sad, let me tell you what's sadder. YOU!

One must have a clear mind, that everything can be done. You treat working NOT as 9-5, then you will succeed.

You've failed. Why? Because you already say no to 9-5.

Oh didn't SYN taught you to say "Everything is possible. Never say cannot do"??? You've already said no to 9-5 job.

i wanna ask u guys,truthly!

when was the last time u buy ur loves one a gift?when was the last time u really sit down n talk to ur parents!is it our goal in life was just working n keep working like an ant.

Hmm, maybe your love ones demand gifts from you? Not all love ones demand gifts.

When I was in DCHL/Lampe Berger, I don't even have time to sit down and spend time with my parents.

It is most of the time went into PROSPECTING and SHARING and what not!

When did you really sit down and talk to your parents and spare some time with friends?

Oh, wait? Your friends mostly are afraid of spending time with you because you would in-a-way, PROSPECT them!

Surely, they are on your list!

we're human,we know to analysis!

but most of us are selfish!right?

and bout the 30k.come on,it's a biz!i said again,it's a biz!

we invest 30k in this biz cause we believe we can get wat we want from this biz!

but other than that,what we got was something priceless!like experience n the most important,dignity!!!

have u ever ask help from other but was turn down by others?especially the one u think he/she will be the 1st person who stand out to help u when u're in need?

Nope, not for me. They always come to my assistants. Because I am sincere and honest. I spend time with them mostly.

There are reasons why people turn down help. You can't just think one way.

Do you aways get turned down?

do u ever heard the the worker ant got dignity?

Worker ant? I am sure those working for others has more dignity.

Dignity comes from oneself. It is how one see dignity and how one fight for it.

If one just see one failure from working in one company and choose the easy way out (MLM), they have failed their own dignity. They didn't learn that from failure but lose to failure.

i'm not here to insult or wat!

i was just analysis the truth to u guys!

so many ppl out there struggle so hard to find an opportunity that can make their life easier!

y are u guys here wanna spoilt this opportunity???

because u wan them to be like u???

be a worker ant without dignity?

Nope. Because we don't want to see another person whose money are not being returned.

AND we don't want things like in THIS (http://www.brandmalaysia.com/movabletype/archives/2006/04/lampe_berger_a.html) Mack's mother daughter case) happen in future.
We are creating an awareness, which we do seriously think is good. We are not stopping people to join Lampe Berger, but do THINK before joining Lampe Berger.

wake up we chinese!the malay nowadays are over our head already!

we can't just sit there n fight against ourselves!

Why not you think this way. Why Chinese are not fighting hard for the rights?

Go into politics, voice out, join armed forces, join civil service. I've done my part.

Let me share this quote with you.

"To be sinned by silence when one should protest makes coward out of men"

i'm not talk bout politic or racism!

but the fact is y our ancient came so far from big land to nanyang?

think back!

stop here !next time will continue!

I would be glad to reply your comments. ;)

LampeBergerHelp

85 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

That is by far the worse comment ever.

First of all, what's that about chinese going to conquer the world? You Hitler or Genghis Khan? Stop with the chinese rule the world bullshit. Anyway why you Lampe Berger is so selfish? Share this business with other races. Chinese is not the biggest market out there if you haven't notice it.

Your revolution on education doesn't make any sense. And about history, what have been done is done. Why are you so angry about the white treating you as servants? Don't hold grudges. Be more open since you say we are so close minded.

You mention about respecting others. How about respecting our views on anti lampe berger?

Opportunity? What opportunity does Lampe Berger have to offer? A promise of a BMW? You guys go and recruit people who just out from college and secondary school. Do they know what is opportunity? They have not even seen the real working world and yet you encourage them to borrow money from their dad. What a great opportunity to waste their parent's hard earn money.

Another sad case of a misguided person who fall into the scam of SYN.

8:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ummm ... can you ask this guy what the demand is for these lamps? Who pays USD$50 for a fragrance lamp? I can find cheaper alternatives elsewhere.

8:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this Anonymous talk so much,a PRO LB person but I think he dare not to put his name.

SUmmore,I think this fella is already "chau for yap mo" already.He pays the joinng fee and join in as a member of Steven Yeam.I think he pay RM2345 or RM30K and "sold" himself to Steven Yeam.He's job is to generate money for Steven Yeam :P

9:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When one speaks too much, nonsense is spewed. Both sides spewed. Steven, when you try too hard to be smart, you just fell into the trap - made an ass of yourself!

9:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

b3rnard7, you think and assumed too much. b3rnard7 is your real name?

9:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why can't you guys just stick to the FACTS? If you can't, please SHUT UP!

9:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am running a full time Lampe berger business after doing it for 6 months. Within this 6 months, I have gotten myself a BMW. Can anyone of you achieve this in six months? It is because we have faith in the business. So for you guys who keep bad mouthing Lampe Berger. Go get yourself a life. Or maybe join us and we will show you how to get a life.

9:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG...these LB guys really lost. U get a BMW in 6 months and now u tell us to get a life? What an arrogant bastard you are.....I can rob a bank for 1Million in 1 day and buy 3 BMWs. So what? Do we go and do that?

I mean, think clearly, this LB business is clearly a money game.
And the lengthy comment posted, it doesn't answer our doubts. They are merely confusing us with theories and philosophies. This is what LB ppl does, confuse you. Tell you stories, answer a question with another question. Bullshit talking about a chance for us Chinese to rule the English ppl. Hey, LB is from france, the more we buy, the more the France company earns, because DCHL directly buy stock from them la stupid!!!! OMG....they are clearly misguided. These LB ppl really....Dun try to con us, we've heard that story a thousand times.

10:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh ya, today i did a good thing. 2 Lampe Berger members heeded my advice, and they starting to move away from LB. They both invested rm30K and regretted it...this is the 2nd time they approached me for advice.

This shows that what i told and showed them the first time really hit them right at the point. TRUTH PREVAILS!!!
Now they are happy doing a business with me with modal less than RM500. The stock can get from my company somemore is FULLY REFUNDABLE. They saw the point, and they left LB...alive. Congratulations to my frens!!! At least they're way happy now. The whole LB structure is an empty Eggshell.

10:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

still you all dont bring any profit to the country..making cash among you people..trash

10:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

steven dun tell me this evening meeting you kena brainwash by those trash LB people then you allow them to post their brainwash treatment in your blog ar..dont forget! we are still anti LB!

11:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no, steve has not in anyway kena brainwash by LB ppl. in fact none LB ppl dared to come up to us and speak up, despite the fact almost half of Starbux is filled by LB ppl then...

i know. i was there. LB Help was there. and i seriously feel terribly sorry for them. pity even. still walking around in their black blazer and SYN collar pin...

and apparently one of them tried to talk up to a couple seated next to our table. before the couple left, LB Help talked to him. guess what that man's reply is? "Dont worry, we have tools that can solve their(the LB ppl) problem."

whats the meaning behind it? sigh... u guys shud've been there!

12:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

leng... i wonder what r u mumbling about... or u urself dont know wat u're talking about?

anyway u shud've come for the meeting. i'm sure u will get your questions answered, in a much more nicer way!

1:29 PM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

Hehe..

Conclusion of the meeting and strategies are yet to be compiled.

It will be thru various channels we are looking into to bring forth this matter to the larger audience of the public.

No plans yet, but yet a mere idea.

You think this comment really Sxxks big time?

Read the recent post I have in my blog. Totally disgrace to the community.

7:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That LB guys is definitely a parrot.
I've heard the exact points he mentioned from another LB member. Definitely his upline taught him and he reiterated it like a parrot. I guess his brain is the size of a parrot's brain too....lol

That's what i said when LB ppl like to answer questions with questions. And giving tonnes of philosophies and theories of life.....and in the process, he insulted everyone, including his own parents.

8:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The post from the Anonymous shows our education system still needs further fine-tuning. This guy is a total racist and have no respect for the country where he's raised. It's embarassing Malaysia still face such situation where one race still looks down upon other races.

8:37 PM  
Blogger Francesco said...

LB for life,

ok,

come back and tell us when you fully own the BMW - cos in fact, your car is still being owned by the bank.

8:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder what type of seminars are being organized by DCHL for the past few years? To educate the LB members of what their race is capable of and to condemn other races?
Probably we should invite the ISA to attend those seminars.

8:44 PM  
Blogger Francesco said...

Steven,

nice post you have.

your sharp answer shows the arrogant mentality of those LB members.

somehow I have strong sense that LB will have big hard time ahead...

with our UNITY

8:49 PM  
Blogger Francesco said...

Clement,

that's why i said that are robot in my post

http://trevesco.blogspot.com/2006/04/mlm7-say-no-to-lb-mlm.html

they are just... programatically trained...

like zombie also...

8:54 PM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

BMW in 6 months?

Well, sometimes you really have to knock your head on the wall. If you can service your car loan up to its final payment, congrats to you.

2.5k loan per month. It's one month salary, the least.

Oh ya, when DCHL closes down, expect a bunch of BMWs to be sold cheaply at the car lelong. I believe the car market will be suddenly oversupplied by LB members themselves.

That's when you should get a cheaper BMW.

9:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

calvin,

You've done a very good job. I guess 'anonymous' didnt put on his thinking cap while he is commenting.

Btw, anonymous if you are reading this, I (owner of my company) was paid RM500 a month for a period of 8 months to maintain my business. My partners was eating bread with fried eggs everyday.

I admit we tooked more than 6 months (4 years to be exact) to achieve what we now but at least we do it in a legal way. As a metter of facts, I make more friends instead of loosing them.

I'm not gonna brag to much about myself but I just want you to know that not only your 'CEO' is willing to sacrifice.

9:19 PM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

True that JohnLim

10:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's my piece on him too...

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Actually from the education taught by SYN. We've manage to find the truth of ourselves!

Actually from the teachings of Lord Buddha, we've (Buddhists) managed to find the truth of ourselves too!
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think back, why we came to this world? is that our life just working 9 to 5 n retired after 65? I think all of u guys sure will say no! We came to this world to enjoy, right? but in the process of living,sure we'll encounter a lot of problems!

yup, i'd say NO. no to your shortsighted opinions! and no, we're not here to just enjoy.

i'm not sure what religion you profess (LB,DCHL and SYN maybe?), but as a Buddhist myself, i understood that we come to the world due to the cycle of death and rebirth. due to our karma. due to our attachments to life.

"life, itself is suffering" said the Teacher. "material pleasures are all but impermanent. only true knowledge prevail. and only with enlightenment, u shall break free from the clutch of sufferings."

thus i have lived my life in Middle Path, just like the Teacher himself. not too poor, nor with too much excess. just enough. no greed nor lavish. enough of everything. just perfect.

and i need no MLM to teach me what is life.
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We invest 30k in this business because we believe we can get what we want from this business! But other than that, what we got was something priceless! like experience n the most important, dignity!!!

strange, i know alot of ppl who joined many other MLMs, esp. Amway, said the very same thing BUT minus the RM30K part...

does this mean other MLM's dreams are not as precious as LB's or simply, u can achieve the same without having to fork out rm30k (+rm2345)?
===================================

Is it our goal in life was just working n keep working like an ant. Be a worker ant without dignity?

this my friend show's how much respect u have for others. this means that since u've joined the upper class by joining LB, so such workers are nothing but dirt on earth. how shallow and undignified you are!

aren't worker ants part of the system? they're the one that does works in the background, the true organisms that move the whole machinery of society! what do you contribute? selling dreams and empty promises?

what if worker ants dont work? does the king and queens of ants still get to eat by just sitting around goyang kaki? what if ur downline dont recruit other downlines, do u still have the money to pay for ur Banyak Makan Wang?

what if the worker ant dont work? the rotting process of dead organisms will take months and u're left to bear with the stench.

what if all Alam Flora (garbage disposal) workers dont work, they just concentrate in LB, since throwing garbage work has no dignity (according to LB speak) try and see who dispose the rubbish for you. frankly, stinking garbage in your house really put dignity in your life eh?

oh, how could i forget? just burn an LB lamp and there goes all the smell! BULLSHIT!

fact is, every ppl in the society plays a part, no matter how low they are in your eyes. we definitely cannot live without these "undignified worker ants" but surely the world would be a better place to live in without Con man like you. u're not in anyway more dignified than such worker ants.

Cantonese proverb, "Kow ngan hon yan tai" (a dog's eyes who looks down on ppl) literally meaning, a dog is already shorter than most men, yet these dogs decided to look down on ppl as if they're taller than human.

man, how much lower can you go?
===================================

i'm truly sad for these brainwashed acolytes (or parrots, whatever u name it).

10:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if we are going to talk about racial perceptions, here's one:

chinese men have small dicks.

chew on that.

11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well... a fully functional small dick is way much better than a non-functional or viagra-dependant big dick. i could not ask for more.

LOL!

11:34 PM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

Oh about our Prime Minister using the product.

It is a gift from the Ambassador of France to Dr. Mahathir.

During the French Idustries Expo.

So, that is the "claim" that our dear Dr. M is using the product but in fact, he just received it as a gift.

11:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i bet our PM receives a lot of stuff he doesn't use

11:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Leng: U as a "lame beggar" distributor,here I got sumthing to tell u tat u r working for STeven Yeam,and do u think he will give u a damn? If u r becoming "count",he wll congrats u....but if u haven't naik pangkat...maybe he ask u to work harder so tat he can still earn....If u give up and u 1 a refund do u think he will entertain u? Maybe he will say to u wif these word leng "Is not my business".

Leng,yes I think but not assume.I tell the truth behind all these LB ppl,I feel disgrace and dissapointed when I read the news in the star paper few months ago and saw a lot of young ppl in our age has been brainwash and using their parents money to do such a scam and conning ppl around in order to get back their ROI.

To LB for life:Well,which bank give u the approval to loan a BMW car within 6 months? Ru trying to say tat u complete the BMW payment within 6 months or the bank give u approval after 6 months? Pls tell me which bank is tat...maybe is DCHL/SYN bank?

I also know how LB ppl get their BMW thru the bank loan which is "some kind of help" from their upline,apply loan from 5 different banks which I heard from a "ex-count" of LB mention b4 after he invest RM30K,and he feel regret of it! Finally the car is been sold to 2nd car shop.

Every1 can buy a BMW,but to "feed" the car ru able or not? (maintainance,petrol and etc)

LB for life: U have the faith of the business in LB? I think u only have the faith in conning ppl's money in order to pay ur BMW car loan,maintainance of the car and the petrol for it only.I know most LB ppl talk this but the true is like wat I say just now.

12:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I got one pretty cool reply too...

His reply seems to answer for itself; the legality and validity of the SYN's business plan.

1:30 AM  
Blogger ^||DaReDeviL||^ said...

guys, i've been receiving a lot of comments in my blog here.. http://menghua84.blogspot.com/2005/09/lampe-berger-bullshit.html#comments
I would be glad if someone can post their comments there other than receiving all those fuck words from LB members.. sigh.. Its tired to read those fuck words all around from those LB members

3:15 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi daredevil,

Let them come here.. I have yet to see
such high level of dissatisfaction in here.

They'll be blown to bits.

4:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

guys keep up the good work..will soon be setting up a real chat room for everyone..lets all work together n kick the shit of out them..

5:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LB Help might need to look for another job? maybe try Amway or Cosway Help? hahaha

6:39 AM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

Help my ass,

I am LB Help.
And the one in bold is my reply to the PRO LB guy.

Don't misunderstood :P

10:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please go to
www.blueserver.org/forums

i started the Lampe Berger topic and is gaining heat there. 2 separate threads created already, i dunno who's the other guy who created the other thread there. Check it out!

12:16 PM  
Blogger Wyeling, LIM said...

b3rnard7 said...
I also know how LB ppl get their BMW thru the bank loan which is "some kind of help" from their upline

I heard this part, said by the duke of my ex,(i dun wan to name any names here) "when we make our money, we will apply income-tax, we will report wht we earn, thn we can get the loans to buy a big car n big hse to impress" my ex actually bought it , borrowed lots of money to invest. today he's no where but a uni drop-out n still struggling hard to even buy a kancil.

clearly, thy r using their assets to pull kids in.. it's all abt being materialistic :(

7:49 PM  
Blogger Wyeling, LIM said...

but hey, i doubt thy actually contribute part of their earnings to the government..

i heard also the last time, tht thy said thy will set up a company tht does not reflect DCHL as its core business. it seems the duke once said tht it isn't really a legitimate business where the banks would grant you loans to get a car. so by setting up this fake plan company, all of them can actually buy their cars to use it as a tool to pull in their target students.

very sad..

7:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this guy more like joking, he mayb even a anti mlm that pretend to b lb n making nuts here n there,

remember the word "mayb"

i think the best is that ppl who give facts,

ppl which give comment such as, i heard, i heard...

..................................

pls give fact, if wat u heard sure is true, than ur life is too well to b true...

i not asking a debate here, but TOO much ppl giving nuts, saying that my xxx doing xxx than bcome xxx in the end xxx.......

nice story, yeah it is nice, stories r no stories, fact is wat v need,

Question 1:
What job contribute to the society?
A. Floor cleaner
B. Rubbish collector
C. Toilet cashier
D. Lampe Berger franchisor

every job in the society does contribute, even the thief does contribute, raper too got contribute, it is whether they contribute more or less.

Question 2:
What job create value to the society?
A. IT programmer
B. Bank cashier
C. Multimedia designer
D. Lampe Berger franchisor

there aint job create value, it is human who create value, even a jalior got he/her own value.

Question 3:
If you have a choice, which of the following people you would always try to avoid and mix with?
A. Floor cleaner
B. Rubbish collector
C. Toll cashier
D. IT programmer
E. Bank cashier
F. Multimedia designer
G. Lampe Berger franchisor

this is a good question, the most thing i ever hate is for those ppl who avoid to mix with other, the question itself got problem, it should b who u 1 2 avoid not wat prof u 1 2 avoid, ur uncle who was mlm but nice to u and ur relatives that doing big biz but is a jerk,

i doesnt 1 2 flame, but asking this kind of dump question doesnt giv facts, it is like u 1 2 express urself, giv facts, it is the basic for every arguement.

2:40 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

lol

9:07 AM  
Blogger Ning said...

How could they say it's "CHINESE HELPING CHINESE" while China with the biggest CHINESE population close door on this? The distract tactic doesn't work coz it's not sensible.

Conquer the world it seems. What will really happen is they drag all this youngsters in before they have completed the full edu system, what can they do in future other than MLM then? Ruining ppl's future yet they call it conquer the world...

MLM is definately NOT adding value to society nor country nor global. Unless they're talking in alien language. Coz by EARTH definition of Adding value, they're definately out.

5:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well,...this young ppl are just a "pawn" for Steven Yeam only.

They think they can conquer the world with the "amount" of the ppl in their office in HLA? Even the Malaysian Royal Army "amount" is more than them a lot!

They think tat they can 双手遮天 (use their hand to conquer the sky) but is just a dream only.They alwasy dream and never get awake.

7:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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11:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what the hack, u guys keep avoiding neutral blogger's question, well i no u guys really hate lb, but oso nonid avoid us gua, it is like in election, u cant avoid neutral ppl.

anyway, syn giv a reply of "lol" means anything?

u cant underestimate the power of neutral, tell u wat, v do receive many info from many side, it is like they r going to stop the promotion of 30k, so much fo a promotion but it is like its end,

and from singapore there, they going to hold a press conference by july 18th, or something, dunno wat is that la,

AND, remember to say 10q after receiving info from others:)

lastly, it is sad that u guys that think urself smart, blinded not even look in to the comments is like an idiot wrote, more like acting too, sadly, degrade for those

9:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok, allow me to say this for the neutrals.

when ppl talk bad about something, u don have to believe 100%, take it with a pinch of salt, and do some investigations ON UR OWN to determine if it's true or not.

same goes when ppl talk good or promoting on some thing. u don have to believe 100%, take it with a pinch of salt, and do some investigations ON UR OWN to determine if it's true or not.

while doing investigations, keep a clear head also as what u found out may not be to your liking. neither does it mean that what u found would be absolute truth.

truth is subjective. it may be correct one time and wrong in another time. some examples:

Case #1
One fella got into accident and went to the hospital. doctor says only little injury and gave him outpatient treatment. later at nite that fella died of internal bleeding.

Case #2
one doctor may diagnose u with untreatable cancer and predict ur gonna die in 3 months time. when a 2nd opinion (check with another doctor) is obtained, doctor says it's just some small problem, take a few pills for to weeks and u're back in the pink of health.

so what u see in front of ur eyes may not be the truth. seek it for urself. u'll know it's the truth if it goes along with the general principle of morality. u'll know it's the truth deep inside ur heart. always keep this in mind, "kalau tidak angin bertiup, manakan pokok akan bergoyang?"

10:00 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi anonymous,

lol - Laughing out loud ( in case you dunno).

Btw, no more 30k promotion? Good, I support DCHL on this move.

It's better, this "promotion" has killed lots of people.

And futhermore, less Count Generation Bonus for you guys ya.

LBs upline make the most money out of Count Generation Bonus.

That's why they always ask you to invest in 30k.

Lousiest marketing plan by DCHL.

4:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

b3rnard7 said... To Leng: U as a "lame beggar" distributor,here I got sumthing to tell u tat u r working for STeven Yeam,and do u think he will give u a damn?

See, I told you that you assumed too much. I am not even a member of LB and I would be very happy if this unethical practise is stopped. So don't try to be too smart ... go back to my postings and READ with open eyes and mind.

If you continue to put your case from extremes, you lose your objective and credibility. Think about that.

7:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I am sure those working for others has more dignity."

my gawd wat a joke.

don't over-generalise and u seem to be quite uninformed in arguing your "facts".

3:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not uninformed. Ignorant is more like it. And threin lies the danger - ignorant people talking like experts. LOL!

5:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LB people SUX!

8:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leng said...

Why can't you guys just stick to the FACTS? If you can't, please SHUT UP!

I think u better SHUT UP! if u r not interested in here.U only got 2 choices

1) ANTI LB
2) Support LB ?

11:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

b3rnard7, ur mind is so closed that you just refused to accept dissenting views. U have so far REFUSED to answer my questions. Is this the way you promote the cause?

6:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

leng,question u have ask me? I dun even see a question so far here.

If u not interested in here,just get out from here ok? or u dun understand english?

I can type here in chinese if u 1.

如果你没兴趣在这里,你可以回家!

7:35 PM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

Why the hatred among each other?
I jus don understand why?

Chill people..

7:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No hatred here, Lampe Berger Help. Just want to put some sense into this kiddo. Want to be a champion? Do it with an open mind and you earn my respect. Don't lah ask people to get out just because you cannot defend your arguments!

11:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

now is lol which syn said is laugh out loud...

i kind of agree with leng, asking ppl get out of here? u think u r yip meh, at my point of view, u r more lausy than lb, i no u so desperate to kick lb, but u had a lot of friendly fire cases.

but yip u lol bcoz my post funny? or wat? i kind of mind, u no.

thats too many ppl assuming lb ppl get 2nd hand car or rent car or wat so ever, i found that it is really sad that they dun even show the fact or atleast post a pic,

u think they really will kill u meh? if they did, than u r hero, u help to make an evidence to sue dchl.

the 30k promotion, it actually discount u 7k, which i dun think it make any diffrent for ppl who join, after all, is just promotion.

for ppl who think they use 30k to get a bunch of lamp, read the previos post which adi state that 30k is to buy product that cost 45k,

.................

really sien when ppl dunno accept the true, u talk to them tell them wat u think, they still fix ur image like wat he think...haizzzzzz

11:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI, I never said that I am a member of LB. I just hope to see this thing argued out objectively becos when you come from the side of extreme you lose no matter what. That kiddo is just spoiling everything here.

And the RM45K, ask him to go fly kite. Even if it comes with 50% discount but cannot sell, what for?

It is bad enough to have the young students not knowing how to differentiate, now you have one idiot trying to play expert! He is just way out of the league!

No more replies to whatever he has to say.

12:28 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leng said...

FYI, I never said that I am a member of LB. I just hope to see this thing argued out objectively becos when you come from the side of extreme you lose no matter what. That kiddo is just spoiling everything here.

And the RM45K, ask him to go fly kite. Even if it comes with 50% discount but cannot sell, what for?

It is bad enough to have the young students not knowing how to differentiate,now you have one idiot trying to play expert! He is just way out of the league!

No more replies to whatever he has to say.


Who do u mean by the words tat I bold here? Dun try to backstab here ok? Instead U even didnt ask me a question also.N I dun see what is the question tat u wanna ask.

2:57 AM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

Let's just start over..

Leng, spill the question again..

9:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As for me,is all over liao,I dun 1 2 start quarrel over and over and over agin with tat "lamer". Just focusing on the new topic on top is better than questioning again.

3:24 PM  
Blogger Wyeling, LIM said...

to leng & b3rnard7

united we stand, divided we fall :)

7:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

united? v got diffrent thing in mind, even v take the same couse to the destrution of dchl.

in pysical form, v realy divided lo, but like he said, start a new topic, from the very begining, flaming DOEST help here, using ur feeling to against ppl or company, suffer urself. v need to b calm,but not cool or cold or watever.

as u c, i m neutral, so i give that info juz bcoz it is funny to c how u guys react to it, but further info, $ is wat v all need, haha, (kidding like a kiddo)

u think i phantom meh, always provide info,
no joking lo

3:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing I'm so sure is neutral is always attack or offence by both side. It is reasonable for you to think that I am not neutral.

I do not know what kind of perceptions you having, but I said flaming does not help, it is true because flaming only weaken you base of facts. You see, through out history, people who won the war got strong mind and they always stay calm to think. All I going to say here, is with strong facts on your side, there are nothing you should afraid of. So, flaming does not help.

What ever perceptions, I got no interest at it. I really not joking.

If you still so firm that I am not neutral, than thats your problem.

10:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nicholas87 here.

hey, lb for life..
hope u will read this...

u said u joined LB for 6 months n now u got yourself a BMW.
well done, first i would like to congratulate u!
but, now i got some questions for u..

how long u need to pay the instalments? 9 years?
is it a second-hand car?

honestly, dun lie...

n what trevesco said is true. the car is not yours until u finish paying your instalments!
u stil got how long to go? 9 years?
hahahaha...

is each n everyone of your downline is earning money now?
or some r still dreaming about earning something like 5 digits a month..? even they have failed to earn a single cent after joined for a quite some time already..

n one more question, do u think u r able to keep that BMW with u for the coming years, at least 5 years??? do u think u r able to pay the maintenance cost for your car for at least the coming 5 years???

if u r earning a few thousands right now, how much have u spend on your BMW??? if u r spending most of your income on your BMW, just to show others that LB is a very profitable 'business', u know what i m going to tell u...

if u r reading this, answer me honestly...

11:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

somethings wrong with his grammar lolx.. kinda difficult to understand

11:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for your advice, I though I not going to post any, but your advice does help alot. I dont mind critics, because it is critics that help us grow or improve. However, if you think that only people in multi lelvel marketing got tone of arrogance, than you might be wrong.

Anyway, I am not the issue here, here is all about anti-lb, but there still people who so pissed of by the BMW.

You just want the company to collapse, so why you so bother about the cars they driving?

It is so usual that neutral will face both side's critics, but does not matter. I do not care even if LB really can success or it will crumble now. To me, this is just another entertainment.

No point of joking.

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9:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

man... i really hate those bots pasting irrelevent advertisement in the comments section...

11:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If LB / SYN is scam, why til now nobody take any action yet? At least point out what's wrong in their plan? Everyone is talking abt the 30K, but what's wrong with that? Why Government still let them run the business if it's scam? Did anyone here "joined" LB and found out the whole thing is actually a scam instead of jumping into conclusion without even finding out what the business is all about?? I am neither a LB user nor its distributor, but just coming from a network marketer's standpoint. I am just curious why this blog only criticizing LB / SYN / DCHL without providing solid evindence of the scam..

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Blogger HellAngel said...

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