Tuesday, May 02, 2006

The MCA Connection - Winnie Lim



Name: Winnie Lim
Age / Gender: 42
Upline Duke: Arch Duke Steven Yeam
Upline Marquis: Arch Duke Steven Yeam
Current Position: Duke
Place of Birth: Kedah, Malaysia
Previous Profession / Business / Jobs: Business Woman
Why LB? This is an International Network Marketing Business. Coming from a traditional business background environment, there is no doubt this is a very smart industry offering infinite market potential and sustainability.
How have you benefited from LB ? I used to have a very sensitive nose. After using the product, I became confident in the product and business. I joined the business to create my second success story !


http://www.synbiz.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=1



(From right) Winnie Lim, Yeam, Lee and Montfort board of directors chairman Tan Sri Clifford F. Herbert are all smiles at the mock cheque presentation
http://www.mca.org.my/story.asp?file=/articles/women/2006/52013.html


And here she is, under DCHL web site:


http://www.dchl.com.my/peluang%20perniagaan%20(komuniti_Duke).asp


Infinite market potential? Does that make perfect business sense? It does not. Resources on earth are finite. Our oil reserves are finite (peak oil is here to come). So how could this business potential be infinite?

Oh yea, the population of malaysia is finite too.

Since this business is mostly recruiting, and malaysia's population is finite (the world is too), there's not much facts backing up it's infinite. Sooner or later, the market will be saturated. But she's lucky, she must be the first few pioneers.

About her nose problem, and creating a success story? A doctor should do the job. Not Lampe Berger.

Winnie Lim is under Wanite MCA, and as the pictures and related sites show, Steven Yeam is making use of the connection to publish some good charity work.

Well, at least Steven Yeam is giving back some money to the society.

But how much percentage is that from his earnings in DCHL?

103 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Taking vitamins or pure essential oils are cheaper and have cured nose problems too.

A honest person will not give such a testimonial for such business.

9:13 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

WAh! that means this STeven Yeam got some "Allies" from MCA is it? Is definetly to find a politician to be his "kao shan" (back bone support).

No wonder MCA = Money Conquers All

Maybe we should ask Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting to do something regarding this "Scam Bitch".FIRE Her?

Nose problem use LB lamps?Then wat is doctor for? worst come to worst go to see specialist or plastic surgery like Mr.Jacko la.

10:19 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Her job as business woman? I think not qualified also.

Maybe her job should write it as "Scam business woman" or "con bitch"

10:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow ... scam/con bitch? Some people will just stoop so loooowwww just to get their message across. Pathetic!

5:51 PM  
Anonymous duke said...

i think the eucalyptus oil really can heal ppl wan lah...

besides, there are a lot of alternative medicine..not necessarily only doctors can cure...

hmm...

6:55 PM  
Anonymous Coolzero said...

That's the reason I will never support MCA. This lady is the secretary of Datuk Ng Yen Yen, and her title is being widely used by SYN members to persuade prospect to join this LB biz.

"If Winnie Lim the secretary of Datuk Ng Yen Yen is doing this business, how wrong can this business be, sure a successful business plan, come in and cut count now."

Regardless of her capabilites to be a secretary, her involvement in such a highly controversial business is good enough to offer the opposition parties a chance to start a debate over the credibility of the leaders in MCA.

There are more families suferring losses and difficulties than those gaining profits out of this business. The anger and fury will be channel to those related to this business and MCA is no exception. Keep in mind that 90% of the failure rate is Chinese.

7:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can someone give me the phone number of Ng Yen Yen's office ? I will like to speak to her and bring her to this blog.

7:34 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Mayve we should ask Datuk Seri Ong Ka Ting to come this blog and realise what his "comrades" did to the society esp. our own race (chinese)

Ain't MCA is organise by chinese ppl to help chinese? But this "Scam Bitch" is trying to CONvinced her own race in order for herself to get rich.

Another Idea is maybe can we EMAIL to Datuk Ong Ka Ting?

8:41 PM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

Someone could at least contact

Michael Chong...superman of MCA.

8:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hilarious,

b3rnard7 got hype, he so aggresive in this post, dunno why. scam bitch... such a nice word from such a nice people. over reacting to something like a, etremist? dunno la, or he is opposite party member finding a way to over run mca? by the way, there are others chinese party, doesnt mean only mca can help chinese.

as these "lb" spread so fast, surely dsokt notice it, after all hes the chairman,

testimonial is base on point of view of the person, does not reflet the truth, and it cant apply on others, why so over reacting? even looking at her pic make you so angry untill smash the table oso no use, go complaint, same, go opposite party complaint? you just a pwan for the opposite party.

anyway do watever you want, after all is your own dicision base on the facts and statement you like.

10:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

by the way b3rnard7,

do you know wat meaning is

"Previous Profession / Business "?

mayb mr yip need to explain abit la

10:55 PM  
Anonymous andrew said...

Politics should never be mixed with Businesses, yet sadly, it's the norm here in Malaysia.

Politics needs financial backing from businesses and Businesses needs to have connections from ppl in the Government, so it's not surprising to see this...

1:01 AM  
Anonymous Melissa said...

Tsk tsk no manners. Steven Yip, mind putting up your pictures and details here as well? If you think you are not wrong then i believe you won't mind showing yourself right? We want to see the "Good VS Evil" and i'm sure a lot of people is dying to know you. teehee

3:35 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi melissa,

I only put up successful LB members.

Perhaps you are one of them. You could send me your picture, then write down your rank in LB. Oh ya, just add your pay slip, so others could really see how much you are earning.

I could give you free publicity. No charge.

Cheers

6:03 AM  
Anonymous Dexter said...

I don't agree that the blog owner should put up his photo here,
waiting to be killed ?? This is Malaysia, not Singapore.

Did b3rnard7 mentioned he need to bring in opposition party ?? Only Steven Yeam brought in MCA, non of us who are against the LB business brought in any political party. We are not that unethical and need not go to such extend to twist others' words.

8:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i wonder where n which country politic firgue never involve in business? yeah i know, the place call tibet.

9:14 AM  
Anonymous Dexter said...

I planning a meeting to be held this sunday or next sunday in KL with those who are keen to GET RID OF THE LB MLM business in Malaysia.
Those who are interested, please email me at stopmlmscams@yahoo.com.sg.
I will only allow some regulars here. Please identify your nickname when you email me.

9:24 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Dear Anonymous,

If I bring opposition party regarding this isuue...maybe u can read on tomolo's paper front page liao.

Actually,I also know tat MCA also got "dark side".Like few years back there is a issue where MCA branch president in XXX place which is also a gangster boss as well?

IMO,this winnie lim join LB bcos she got some political power (bcos she works for Datuk Ng yen yen in MCA) therefore her "busines" can run smoothly and can easy CONvinced ppl as well.At the same time,Steven Yeam also use her name as a "marketing tool".Just like borrow a knife her to chop the waterfish.

What DEXTER say is true,only ppl got brains can understand what I'm trying to say.10s DEXTER!!!

10:48 AM  
Blogger whathappentoday said...

Y keep on talking here? just report to MICHAEL CHONG or send this blog to media websites like tv3.com or www.988.com.my.

Btw, is LB really a bad business? Or is it just their agent doin business wrongly. I am just being neutral.

10:59 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

Hi dexter

Count me in your meeting too.

5:51 PM  
Anonymous Coolzero said...

Let's take it this way, who knows some other opposition party leaders also involved in this LB business. So DO NOT grouped LB with MCA together yet until we get the facts.

If any leaders involved in this business are operating the business ethically and never utilized his or her political influence, what's wrong?

The wrong part is their name and their social identity is being misused by other member to sell the marketing plan. This is the thing you must avoid and stop it. If you failed to stop it then you would have to choose either one, party or business, simple as that.

7:22 PM  
Anonymous Dexter said...

To coolzero,

Please stop twisting others meanings. No one said politicians cannot get involved in business. b3rnard7 meant Steven Yeam's ""Allies" with MCA and Winnie LIm's position in MCA for this business is unethical. You may be right that they could be opposition parties in LB too but do you see them using it as an influence for their business ?
As for MCA, I have no comments on them.

Hi b3rnard7,
Are you still keen to join in for a meeting ? Not heard from you, or has I missed your e-mail ?

Steven,
I will e-mail you. Do you think lampebergerhelp will join in ? I did not voice out in his blog as I am afraid his objective may not be the same as mine.

Do you know metal steel rider ? I hope to get him in too.

9:44 PM  
Anonymous metal steed rider said...

Hi,

well i'm here, but i will not be online here soon.

i'll be off to army training for a month. so if there's any posting within that period, it's not me, just some whacko posting under other ppl's nick.

till then, see u guys!

3:17 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Hey Dexter!

did u received my mail and my number as well? Pls dun forget to contact oe sms me ya.I wish to meet u,steven yip and our ALLIES!

I'm waiting!

6:32 AM  
Anonymous Squall said...

hi, this is not my first time leaving a comment, I've done so a couple of times under the nick "keepitup".

i'm still visiting this blog, but it seems that you are running out of materials and talking points.

I feel there is too much irrelevant posts in this blog. Just keep it simple, and make sure that the vital posts that has useful information that actually exposes how LB operates is easily browse-able. Maybe highlight them or something, I'm not sure how you're gonna do it.

No one would have too much time going through all your posts, especially the redundant ones.

A few factual points of LB is enough to scare potential victims:
- its a pyramid scheme
- recruiting is priority #1
- cut-count is ultimate goal
- joining fee is ridiculous
- product is not marketable to majority/masses
- product is way overpriced
- product is not actually utilised, many are recycled to new victims, and cycle continues.
- business plan does not conforms one to have a steady income
- refund policy is abused / non-dependable
- bugging someone to part with 30k so you can start bugging others to do the same is not appealing at all
- market saturation is inevitable, and LB saturates at a fast pace (mainly due to many points above)
- business plan is very vague, it only requires one to recuit, and recuiters to recruit.

Ok, I think I may be starting to be repetitive, and this is all I can think of at this time. Sorry for the lack of elaboration.

But again, I guess this is a blog, not a website.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers.

1:46 PM  
Anonymous Melissa said...

Dexter,
Waiting to be killed? Hahaha that is so darn hilarious. Apparently you guys have no GUTS to admit what you guys are doing. What is there to be afraid of if you are telling the truth?
Why not post the venue of your meeting here as well? Why so secretive?

10:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SYN new tactic; THEY REALLY WANT TO CHANGE UR LIFE - OH MY GOD...

friends told me, SYN new tactic is to stay with prospect! they wanna create more rapport this way, they wanna see how you live! from there they attack you! beware.

1:44 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi anonymous above,

wat do you mean stay? You mean stay together ?

That's so weird...

6:05 AM  
Anonymous Dexter said...

melissa,

You must be MAD. We are not here to make friends or prospects. We are here for a purpsos and I already made it clear. What do you mean by no guts to admit.
Why are you so earger to know us ? Isn't LB distributors claimed to be helpful or friendly enough ?
Why do you need us ? Or are you already losing friends as I have predicted for all LB distributors ?

Post a picture of yourself up first if you want to know us. Then I decide to know you or not.

7:46 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Melissa: may I know ru 1 of Uncle Steven Yeam followers in DCHL/SYN/LB? Just say YES or NO.

I hope u answer my question.

10:39 AM  
Blogger Cho said...

Shameful that it actually involve politician, in MCA somemore. But... if they didn't involve youngsters in such an unethical way, I won't even be bother. Yet... they're so unethical...

Really like to know the new tactic... prospects???

7:30 PM  
Blogger Cho said...

Why students? why con students?

Seriously, money is a small matter. Future... that's whole life. & college time is almost like the final kep point that determine their future...

8:24 PM  
Blogger Cho said...

Heard that they were intruding Kuching market & also recruiting Malays, how's those strategy going? Hope they hit by asteroid!

10:08 PM  
Anonymous The Truth said...

They target students and the youngsters because of 3 reasons: 1) They are less knowledgeable to MLM/pyramid/direct selling(easier to be foolled);
2) youngsters, being new to MLM and first time approach to friends usually get better results;
3) most importantly, youngsters are willing to learn and follow.

When OHK first started Lampe Berger in Malaysia, they target the experienced MLMers. They have all fled and left the Company after experiencing and know all the truth.
It's only after they created RZ and with Steven Yeam, they tap retailers' marketing by misleading them into thinking "franchisee". Those retailers(shopowners') are gone now. Then they switch to students. Now, they try to concentrate on the "ladies" and East Malaysia.

Please inform and warn your East Malaysian friends.
Anyone know any active East Malaysia forum ?

11:47 PM  
Anonymous nicholas87 said...

i am wondering why there are so many 'Dukes' in LB but only a few are very famous, especially Patrick Tan and Winnie.
can anyone tel me why?

2:30 AM  
Anonymous Melissa said...

Isn't it obvious? Of course i'm in LB and i'm proud to say it even. We're still normal human beings after all. I don't blame you all for not understanding and agreeing with the industry. Really :) There's always black and white in this world.
Also can i join your meeting for anti lampe berger? I really would love to hear everyone's comment. So pls put your venue here. Don't need to be so secretive ok?

4:15 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi melissa,

Good to know you are in LB.

May we know your rank as well?

6:41 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Melissa,finally u admit u r LB member.I think u better dun attend to our gathering otherwise,something worse will happen.In front of public,we will annouced it that u r a "con gal" who con teenagers money and you are a follower of Steven Yeam as well.

8:45 AM  
Anonymous Dexter said...

melissa,

Why do you need to hear about opinions when you think that "we don't agree and understand the industry" ? Our opinions are all well posted in this and other related blogs. Go through them and you know our opinions well
Also visit mine at www.stopmlmscams.blogspot.com

BTW, I have stressed many times that one of LB's strategy is to twist others' comments and pretended not to understand them.
You appeared like you demonstarted that too. You mentioned we don't agree and understand with the "industry". You are wrong, we are refering to the LB MLM business, not the industry.
So sorry, you will not find our meeting a pleasant for you because you could not even follow us so far in these blogs.
Maybe get back to us when you are agreeable.

9:31 AM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

Melissa,

I would definitely would welcome you to the meeting dexter is going to held with few points.

1) You can really help into the matters of what people are facing, namely re-fund.

2) You are one of the decision makers in DCHL/Lamper Berger/RZ Corporation.

If you are not, I would rather you not to come. Because you and us will be making a mockery of ourselves.

Do you know, that many are duped or con-ed into joining this business for a very personal and self interest of the introducer!?

It is a very selfish approach that personally ME is creating an awareness to others to know about DCHL/Lampe Berger in another perspective.

Perhaps you have a better perspective to tell us why when some distributors ask for re-fund, they are being held back.

Any answers to that?

12:44 PM  
Anonymous guevara again said...

melissa.. yes there is black and white in this world.. but who are we to decide wat is black and white??

the flawed law system tat allows such immoral practise to be carried out or wat?? now u tell me what is black and what is white???

we are here as we are trying to defend wat is morally correct.. its true we are all human too.. but remember jsut because we want to get rich tat doesnt mean we can be all ruthless and savage about it.. we are human because of our conscience and morality. tats wat set us apart from animals.. we cant be all selfish and stuff just for our own good.. once again wat we are doing is for the morality sake and not balantly bashing soemthign tat we dislike or wat...

2:03 PM  
Anonymous guevara again and again said...

politicians are politicians coz they can pull strings.. in the end of the day its all about the money.. its a dirty world of politics... like ppl say, politicians are the most un-trustable ppl on this planet..

i m sure there are many such dirty politicians like them.. look at how complicated and screwed up our country is.. as long as u have the power u can rule the world as u like. haahhaahhaha.. does the gov really care about the ppl?? err i dont think so haha..

2:07 PM  
Anonymous walababe said...

nicholas 87. i think i know why..
first they are really good at brainwashing and bringing in suckers.. 2nd they are superb suckers themselves who can really contribute alot to the company by paying a huge amount of money for those so called ranks.

3rdly they can strengthen the company's portfolio, for example this winnie the pooh girl. and ppl will say hey look "there is this MCA person in LB, it has to be a good and trustworthy company".

that includes all the shows the LB ppl put by donating this and that.. just to strengthen their portfolio in front of the public...

2:12 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

walababe: I totally agree what u say here!

well,about the ..."Winnie the pooh girl"? C'mon this u should call her as Scam Bitch

1:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

winnie the pooh makes laugh, scam bitch makes ppl think you are low on moral. want to atk oso dun so inhuman la.

4:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Steven Yip: I hope you control the 'language' used in this blog, particularly B3rnard7's comment, very disgusting, indirectly he is also insulting your brother and father too since both of them r involved in LB biz.

9:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesn't matter who is in Lampe Berger. It is the worse ever marketing plan selling the worse ever product. I hope those Lampe Idiot all burn in hell. If you people are stupid enough to join, screw you too. Don't visit this page if you mind seeing people condemning Lampe "Light your own balls on fire" Berger.

10:50 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No offence to Steven Yip but I do think his brother is stupid to be conned by the Scam Bitch. Thankfully he got Steven Yip as his brother to guide him back. Most people just lose their money, friends and family

10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The biggest culprit may not be Steven Yeam or DCHL.

It could be the French who supplied them the products.

11:02 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi anonymous,

how do we control our language, when you are being:

1. Cheated 30k of hard earned money.
2. Duped into believing dreams of lies.
3. Seeing your loved ones waste their youth chasing worthless business ideas.

So, there's no point to control. Of course, it reflects our immaturity. But the message is, DCHL has to close shop, and stop conning our fellow malaysians

5:43 PM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

couldn't agree more..

So is the meeting up on?

MELISSA??

7:23 PM  
Anonymous Melissa said...

I'm still waiting for the venues my dear. As expected, you guys will give a whole load of crap first. Why not just TELL us where you guys are meeting instead?
No point debating here anyway. Cut the bull and post the venues, date and time. That's all by lil'ol me :) Tata ~ Mel

10:11 PM  
Anonymous Lim Zack said...

Melissa, are you so noble? representing/defending the community of LB shitheads? dont play reverse pshycology, it is VERY VERY CLEAR whether the ways of LB are ethical or non-ethical. it is BLACK and WHITE, yea it is, and the ways of LB clearly speaks UNETHICAL, please try to reason with me, i would love to meet up with you.im serious. u can bring a few of your LBshitheads too if u want.

12:11 AM  
Anonymous Alex koon said...

i am wondering melissa dare to come alone without bringing those so call "monkey" to debate with u guyz in the meeting or not lolz

2:40 AM  
Anonymous Melissa said...

Please learn some manners Mr Lim Zack, think i should hear about ethics from such an immoral individual? Think again. Thank youu.

So where's the venue, date and time? Please don't make me ask so many times. Does it matter who's coming?

4:33 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Anonymous: what steven yip says is TRUE!!!

Imagine u kena tipu RM30K by this kinda ppl and the Rm30K is from ur dad.WILL UR DAD FORGIVE U AS WELL?

Think b4 u say ppl ok?

5:58 AM  
Anonymous Lim Zack said...

plz learn to defrentiate between unethical and rude.

unethical - not conforming to approved standards of social or professional behavior "unethical business practices" thats the definition of it.

my behaviour is derived by the many issues i've heard and came across with the way LB do business, besides that i am frustrated how people are able to be SO blinded by "Money" that they are willing to do just about anything, selling your soul to money? $$kacheng$$ i have no idea who you are, therefore im not saying you are one of them, you could be doing it ethically, well who knows.

my behaviour is clearly and merely just being "rude". i apologize for it.

6:03 AM  
Anonymous Dexter said...

melissa,

Cut your own crap, I already made it clear the objective of our meeting is to GET RID of the LB business. You don't qualify now.

Try someone else's meeting.

10:35 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi melissa,

The anti LB air is to thick. You can't make it out alive in the meeting.

6:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What abt Bel Air..r they same as LB? No anti-BA..i hope..

6:55 PM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi anonymous,

Bel air and Lampe Berger are under the same brothers.

So technically, we are against them as well.

6:56 PM  
Anonymous Alex koon said...

but if melissa bring a lot of "monkey" and come debate with u all guyz in the meeting, maybe there will be a great show there hehehe

8:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sham...even corporate people are doing this unethical business of direct selling.
Kim wong (kym Wong) aka khairy Abdullah, Chief Officer of Pulse-group is also doing this scam. Heard he is actively involved going for top post the DUKE -secretly of course. Wonder what his boss will react to this???
Yet he is a chief officer in Pulse

11:28 PM  
Blogger Lampe Berger Help said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

11:53 PM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

I know why melissa ask us about the time and venue of the meeting bcos she already prepare her "monkeys" to debate it with us.

I think she already contact all her "monkeys",just wait n see only.

Melissa u wait until ur lamp out of oil 1st la.

2:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A bunch of idiots..what business is 'ethical'? Nike shoes cost less than RMB100 to produce but sell at USD100 or more, is this 'ethical'? Anti-Nike lah! Workers in China earned less than RMB100 per month, is this 'ethical'? Anti-China lah! Proton cars are priced at ~4K pound in UK but sell at RM40+K in M'ysia, is this 'ethical'? Anti-Proton lah! All software installed on your PC and DVDs you bought are pirated version, is this 'ethical'? Anti-pirated lah! How much have you 'steal' from these software publishers and movie makers? Don't make me laugh lah, you think you're holy man or the saint? 'Ethical' your ass.. idiots!

9:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

another lb people..

12:38 PM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi anonymous,

we are not holy man, either we are saint.

But we are...anti this business, because the way it's being misused.

By the way, if you are looking for anti proton.
http://taknakproton.blogspot.com/

3:54 PM  
Anonymous Lim Zack said...

Dear Anonymous,

dont make a "FOOL" out of yourself alright? talking about Proton?talking about Nike? they are ETHICAL in many sense cause they openly, transparently, declaring that, ther...this is our price, u like it? u buy it..u dont, then dont. They dont brainwash you like LB does, giving ppl false hope and potraying yourself as something you know you are not.

We know many business in this world is "ENETHICAL" SO WHAT? thats totally besides the point. This does not mean going on doing business this way is "RIGHT" eventhough everyone is doing it.Come on dont be stupid, monkey see monkey do? Everyone is doing it does that mean is "RIGHT" at least if you still have the consciences to know what you are doing is unethical,then i think you still can be save..or else, i think u are pretty much a gone case.

u know what? this is what i called "OBSESS" "BLINDED BY MONEY", totally OBLIVIOUS of what is "RIGHT" and what is "WRONG". nobody is perfect here, but im sure we are working, trying to be a better person in some ways.

Therefore anonymous, whatever you are trying to do, is invain. coz the truth will always speak in the end.

7:16 PM  
Anonymous Lim Zack said...

i know this is abit dramatic, but what the heck, who cares. As long as i still live on this earth..as long as im still breathing.. i will NEVER STOP telling, spreading the news about LBs work ethics and the ways of it.

i dont give a damn what you think, what you say, coz deep down i know absolutely sure, and firm of my actions.

7:23 PM  
Anonymous limzack'smumlover said...

lololol i can't believe there's so many retarded people here. Come on if you guys wanna bring politics into this, i'm positively sure the opposition would have thought of this long time ago. After all LB has been in malaysia for like? 5 years? Need to wait for you? hahaha!
lim zack, this is for you. stfu cry baby.

11:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

come on, so what if is alreayd been in malysia for 5years? and this whole blog has swayed away from their intention, we are talking abt creating awarness to ppl about LB, doesnt matter whether politics are in or not.

11:35 PM  
Anonymous limzack'smumlover said...

i'm sorry i have nothing better to do but to create some stupid nick to be in disguise. im a CHICKEN with no brain,but only hide in peoples shadow..i know i am cursed to lick LB's upline shoes for the rest of my life.

11:40 PM  
Anonymous i hate lb said...

Fight Fight fight!!!

12:03 AM  
Anonymous Lim Zack said...

lolz, i dont want to create a holywar.:)dont worry i a'int offended by the childish remarks.Thanks anyway however is diguising as that immature brat.

to lim zack'smomslover
come on, you can do better than that, you dont have anything else to defend yourself but with gibberish? thats a SHAME. it shows alot of you. is alreayd a shame the ways of LB, you are worse, you are a DISGRACE to them.sigh...

tip for you: go to an empty room with a mirror, look at yourself and reflect on your life brother. :)

12:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

good one lim zack!

3:23 AM  
Anonymous observer said...

lim zack: why bite ur own tongue, same too for LB biz, "u like it? u buy it..u dont, then dont". I dont believe they r so good in 'brainwashing' others, those who join the biz have brains to decide themselves, no one force them to. I do agree with you that 'GREED' is the main driving force behind, but we r human, who doesnt like $$$? otherwise Genting and Big Sweep will not sustain..BTW, it's gambling 'ethical'? should we anti them too..?

3:24 AM  
Anonymous squall said...

RMB 100 to make a pair of nike shoe? RMB 100 monthly wage!? there is no measure to ignorance and stupidity.

and please stop bringing in other companies for comparison, trying to make yourself feel better about LB. nike is not telling you that if you buy shoes from us, and sell it at ridiculous prices to your family and friends, you can drive a BMW.

a business is unethical if it is making false promises of things that its business/product is not capable of delivering.

6:22 AM  
Anonymous limzack'smomlover said...

i love teabagging lim zack's mom everynight and which dumbass said i was a lb distributor? go shove it up your arse punks. I'm just bored and you guys suck a dick. A bit of rants ere and there coz i'm bored. so?

hey fags stop using my nick mmmkay.

1:09 PM  
Anonymous limzack'smomlover said...

lim zack, are you freaking retarded? gibberish? go read abc again pls kthxbai!

1:11 PM  
Anonymous limzack'smomlover said...

oh ya squall, wtf are you talking about man? stop comparing? that is the absolute fact biatch. get with it and stop acting so freaking dumb ok. god i love this website. keep up da good job yo

1:14 PM  
Anonymous Lim Zack said...

Dear limzacks,momslover.

You dont understand the meaning of "gibberish"? how sad, a real disgrace to LB itself. sigh..when i read the silly things you've posted..i really pity you, for you, your family and everyone around you.

i give credit to some of you LB people for your creativeness, gambling?nike shoes? *clap*clap* but not everything is a "mix & match" alright? maybe you guys should think of chanelling your creativity to somthing more real, and productive.

Remember this, the people are your clients,but your behaviour of defending yourself in such a manner has definitely spoiled it all. :)you dont depict a businessman at all. i say this again, you are a DISGRACE.

You know what, i own a company with thousands of email contacts, im going to ask my secretary to forward to everyone about this sites, and explaine to them alittle about LB too. Let the people decide alright?

7:07 PM  
Anonymous Lim Zack said...

dear observer,

i dont think you are observing enough, LB does not just stop there, are you kidding me?

i give you two scenarios of first hand encounter with those unethical LB people..

First, a friend of mine got into this thing in the pretext that it is 90% refundable within 6months. During the 6months he decided to quit and take back the remaining 90%, guess what? apparently he couldnt get back the 90% refund because most of his products are above 1k. (by the way he invested 30k into it.) You know whats the worst part? the upline insisted to pick the products for him and did not inform him that products 1k above are not refundable. the upline picked most of all the product above 1k,therefore he loose everything in the end.

second encounter, Another close friend of mine was highly interested after how they persuaded him false stuff. Therefore he agreed to him believing that he will get back his money the following month therefore he promised the LB fellar he will join them. But later on my friend realized the scam behind LB and decided not to. The LB fellar started harrasing him, asking him to pay up the mone..it was just 2k++. calling him, smsing him, threatening him, asking him to watch out, be careful where he goes and etc. In the end, my friend reported police, and the LB fellar was in trouble..but settled in the end.

So tell me, how is gambling, nike shoes, all have to do with this?

7:29 PM  
Anonymous limzack'smomlover said...

hahaha lim zack you're quite stupid man. i'm not in any business and i don't give a ratass if you owned a company with a few freaking thousands e-mails.
WOW! hahaha lame. oh wait, just because i flamed your balls off technically means i'm in LB which i'm not? yer retarded man.
why wait until now only mass mail about lb? who are you trying to kid with? "oh i'm the businessman and i know any businesses" wowowow
so stfu you self inflated fool. hahah

7:37 PM  
Anonymous Lim Zack said...

i presumed you are just a little kid whos pubic hair are just growing.
take it from papa, zip up your mouth and stay in the room kid. :)

7:45 PM  
Anonymous Wong Chun Wah said...

aiyoh..he is clearly a young chap. please ignore him.

7:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Limzack'smomlover,

Your immaturity has made you the biggest fool in this blog, pls spare the shame and hide somewhere.

8:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you all have nothing better to do. There so many things out there, bad and good. Wasting precious time debating. Leave the brand alone. It is the people. What about those non SYN group. So naive.Give sincere people a chance to chari makan.

11:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lim zack,

Wrong info lah, teach u now: only promotional items are non-refundable, not items above 1K, do some study first, don't hear-say-hear-say from friends.

Get the name of the LB fella who threatened ur friend, post it here so that everyone know who he/she is, he/she deserve more punishment even the case had been settled. If u can't even do that, I am doutful if this is really a 'first hand' encounter or another hear-say-hear-say from friend... Don't disappoint us lah!

1:10 AM  
Anonymous Lim Zack said...

Promotional products are mostly 1k above. and 90% of what the upline picked for him is all of it. therefore he couldnt get his refunds as promised. period.

i do not want to reveal that persons name as i dont feel is right. The case has been settled.

ermm..why would i want to create a story like that? how did i genuinly started going against LB? is because of incidents like these.

i dont need you to believe me. Let the readers decide alright.:)

1:24 AM  
Anonymous i hate lb said...

Prmotional product or 1k above product,so what?..what ever you are trying say in the end there is still no refund for lim zacks fren. why you people do such things?bastard dogs.

1:45 AM  
Blogger Cho said...

Lim Zack, why is this other guy disguising by quoting your name? I almost mistaken u as him at first.

Did your friend get any refund at all? My friend's family member also join with 30k and the excuse he use is he can get refund anyway, no harm to try. I heard they can't get coz it's backup by some tricky T&C.

4:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow big news!!

Someone tried to ask for RM100K each from steven yeam and DCHL through a middle party or else they will use 2 blogs to bring down their business. Steven Yeam and company ignored them and they reduce to 50K now.
If they pay, one of the blog owner will admit that he has misunderstood the business and apologise. The other one will announce that he has happily got his refund and case closed.
I immediately think of this blog.
What a trick, bringing out father and brother into the act.
Look like they will not get it.
Using website threats to make money are common in overseas but in Malaysia, maybe 1st time.

6:05 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

yeap, big news, alrite.

So guess what, if Steven Yeam offer 1 million to me, I won't take it.

Whatever his riches he got, is all from other people's hard earned money.

7:23 AM  
Anonymous Alex said...

i haf a nose prob too. and i think after usin the pdt, i might need surgery to cure it. hmm... well it needs surgery afterall in the first place. i think tat's just some bs excuse she cooked up. obviously

9:13 AM  
Anonymous Alex said...

hmm ok after reading about the ethics issue, i'd haf to settle for lb being unethical. how ethical can it get when it's encouraging youngsters WITHOUT a steady income to 'invest' in them? melissa talks about black and white in this world, but the reality is, often it's a gray area. if lb is really tat ethical, then it'd haf some sort of policy that requires proof of a minimum steady income in order to join. not askin some naive i-want-bmw-kid to ask for $ from parents while the upline gets richer.

9:24 AM  
Blogger Cho said...

Alex, totally agree!

How ethical is to ask the students to take thei ptptn money to join this, or push the parents to give hard earn money, or borrow fom all relatives, or ask them to use credit card, or loan or ... ruining their future.

9:34 PM  
Blogger Dexter said...

cho,

Please remind your friend that they will only refund 90%, so they are prepared for everyone to ask for refund, they still make 10% clean profits from it.
This refund trick is commonly practised by most SCAM MLMs business. With the "REFUND" clause, it's so much easier to con people in.

Steven,
I will take the money, the more the merrier. You deserve it for give them such good lessons. Use the money for charity or create more publicity for your blog.

10:18 AM  
Anonymous ignition said...

Dear Limzacksmomslover,

By you potraying urself as someoneelses mothers lover has two reasons psychology. First, you are a freaking looser who hides behind peoples shadow, coward and always a sourloser whom uses unsensible words to defend oneself. Secondly, is called "projection" of yourself, or something close to you, example, having a nick that says, "limzackmomslover" means, your own mom is having many lovers, or in another words, being screwed by many man in real life. You will tend to potray your own weakeness on something else.

is ur mom being Fcked by many man? im sorry about that you poor baby boy.

9:27 AM  
Anonymous ignitionmomlover said...

haha ignition you wanna give me your mom's number too? come get some babe

6:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

limzack moms lover,

is your mom being scrwed by many man?ahahah..

8:13 AM  
Anonymous i hate lb said...

cant u ppl see that everyone is ignoring limzacksmoms lover? let him continue make a fool out of himselfler.

8:15 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

^ Agrees with you.

He's just potraying the attitude of SYN members.

This is the real face of SYN.

11:39 PM  

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