We have seen too much trouble caused by DCHL distributing Lampe Berger in Malaysia. It's time to hit back at this unethical MLM network marketing business pyramid plan.
High Class Guys
There was a posting by a member in Lowyat forum. This is really hilarious...come to think about it.
lol ..... this thread is making me lol ......Is there such a sickness among them? What's wrong with eating at a normal hawker stall? And the worst part is, the downlines still can't see the snobbishness in their leader.
ok share some .... i heard this 1 from my LB friend ....
1 day, his team and his upline went to Petaling Street eat something (if not mistaken its wan tan mee)
den they all order things eaet and drink
but then when the worker there put thier wan tan mee in front of his upline and the worker went away,
then his upline DUN WAN to take the chopshtick and eat, so his team members ask him y? no good or full? ...
guess wat his upline say this "the chopstick here is toooo heavy, too dirty and he is not suitable for THESE kind of foods, therefore he dun wan to eat, say wat not suitable la, wat hot la and wat here and there" ...
i was like WTF .... i doubt he dare to speak this thing LOUD and CLEAR in the stall, i guess he will be dead meat LOL ... and i ask my friend " do u really believe wat he say? u wont agnry with him? even if he is damn freak hilarious (IF) rich, he shouldnt say that!? " the answer of my friend made me fainted ... lol ... he answered "aiyaa , its like that ma, ppl high ranking (i dunno wat ranking) .. sure got these types of habits la, its OUR fault to bring him to those low-class places .... " .....
i LOL'ed and just change topic ... man their mind .... hardwired by those LB teachings or wat?
posted by Steven Yip at 6:18 PM
55 Comments:
I think tat upline wallet is kosong already,so in order to keep his face.He say those WORDS.
This is the "acting rich" culture created by Steven Yeam so that their distributors will work harder in order to afford a better living.
2 years ago, a friend of mine who who followed up with a prospect, made an appointment with him at a mamak stall late at night. His upline arrived earlier and told my friend, "Why do you make appointment in such a place ? We are supposed to make him cut for 30K, how could a 30K business be transacted in such a place ?"
Later, my friend left the business and told me what his upline said. WE became closer friends.
To be frank, do you guys honestly believe that everyone behaves like that in that business? Is it fair to judge over several spoilt apples in the baskets then condemn the whole lot?
Some might behave like a total dick but i still think not everyone is like that. This goes not only to MLM business even conventional business. Just my opinion about people and life.
Hi Fate,
I agree with you.
Those Companies who are under DSAM have Code of Ethics Rule such that the Company will terminate such "bad apples".
Wonder why then RZ don't terminate them ? Oh, because RZ is not a member of DSAM ?
Anyway, we are not just against such apples, we are against the Company for creating such business, with overpricing and overclaims on the products.
Sad to see so many people posting comments with simple and naive mindset..It's no fair to condemn / comment any MLM biz if you don't know how the biz operates.
hi network marketer,
It's not so hard to understand the business. At the start, of course, it looks alien, but once you dig in more stuff, look into the marketing plan, do some self research, it's plain to see.
If guys with less education could join LB and in a few days start evangelizing this marketing plan, it's not hard for the rest of us to understand without joining.
Yeah, probably it's not fair to highlight such behaviour to others...but there's a tendency for members to be so high up in their thinking.
Just look at their annual gala dinner last year...all dressed up like kings and queens...the message they try to bring to others is DCHL is an exclusive club.
So act like one...go get yourself a BMW even though you can't afford it, go get a G2000 coat even though it cost a lot. Go get LV bag, so other girls would get hooked into this business too.
It might not be directly said, but the message it tells is obvious.
Not enough evidence? Just look into their monthly magazine.
Heard from a friend that her bf who's a marquis now, is "forced" to purchase a 2nd hand BMW in order to follow the "trend" instigated by some brainless people in LB. She told me that it's impossible for them to save any money now as all his pay/commision will contribute to the maintenance, petrol and loan payment of that car. stupid huh?
This is a typical excuse that all scam companies teach their distributors to react when anyone condemn their business. That others are condemning the whole MLM industry.
They will pretend not to realise that others are refering to LB business, and not other MLM. I am refering to the above LB distributor named "network marker" with his reply calling others comments as "simple and naive".
I think most people are not as cunning as most LB distributors but certainly not naive.
After so long, you guys still keep the trend of using meaningless statement to oppose something.
I feel deeply sad as it seems that our host here, had lost the way of giving more useful evidence.
The stories, fairy tale, heard from friend, are as useless as rubbish. It can be created purposely, or wrongly translate.
The acting as rich, is one thing that being told for many a self confidence that will become rich one day.
This is not from SYN member, but do you think you can gain something, if you never thought of it? Do not give ideas like crashing cars or air crush.
THis is for those in Multi Level Marketing, no one force you in, and it is you who decide to join, but if they force you to buy something, and you agree it without thinking twice, you are stupid, not to be cruel, but it is the most suitable word. You choose it and you face the result.
Anyway, if the business goes on and on, what should you do, Mr. Yip?
Not much of joking.
he'll just continue until either DCHL or himself run out of steam.
but i'll be standing behind steven no matter wat.
"THis is for those in Multi Level Marketing, no one force you in, and it is you who decide to join, but if they force you to buy something, and you agree it without thinking twice, you are stupid, not to be cruel, but it is the most suitable word. You choose it and you face the result."
OK. Let's talk about decision making. Tell me, what does a person need before he can make a decision? Information. How much information does an average distributor provide a prospect with? And how valid is it? If the prospect who doesn't know anything about the business is given so much positive information and so little negative information (when in fact there is a lot), he/she will probably make a positive decision. As long as he/she has only partial knowledge, he/she cannot make very good decision, no matter how many times he/she thinks it over. Who causes the "stupidity" in this prospect? The distributor. Who is to blame? The distributor. Who is cruel? The distributor and people who think the prospect causes his/her own "stupidity".
This blog is sometimes running out of new evidence, yet it contains useful information especially for people who are new to the LB business, and it is a good place for the readers to voice out their opinions too.
As I mentioned somewhere else earlier, RZ like many other MLM Companies in Malaysia are granted license to operate. So it is a legal business.
Those LB distributors can go saying they are "not being forced to join" or "no one force the victims to join".
This means more needs for such blogs and messages to exist to educate people and prevent more victims.
I can understand people who can simple-minded or naive to be blinded by greed.
But if these people could be unhappy to see this blog and come in here to comment against us ONLY SHOWED they know this is a bad businness and feared their business could be threatened.
Yes, we will continue to work against them.
IT IS WORKING !!
KEEP UP WITH THE GREAT WORK !!
Steven Yip, metal steel rider and some others.
camry,
This is their strategy. By making them getting expensive cars and lifestyle, it will be easier to influence other "victims" and 2ndly, with greater financial burden, they could not give up the business freely.
Please try to stop them from the business but if you cannot, then warn those friends of yours who know them too before they are "victimised". I know this is difficult to do but you need to do it.
Hi All,
I am calling for a meeting and the Agenda is "GET RID OF LB BUSINESS IN MALAYSIA".
Those who have the same objective( nothing else) and wish to attend, please let me know here.
It will be either in KL or PJ.
Attention !!
Forget about the link put up by the blue "anonymous" about illegal and legal network marketing and pyramid business.
The opinions there are NOT 100% accurate or correct. Don't believe it. Those info are mainly used by PRODUCT-BASED PYRAMID business to mislead victims !!
And i suppose your comments are 100% correct, Dexter? I should say the same about you as well.
hey dexter! when and where is the meeting held? I'm IN!!!
deedee,
You need not believe me, no problem. Everyone is free to comment. LB leaders are also telling their downlines who knew this blog that those negatives messages in this blog cannot be believed.
We are here to caution people and it is up to them to believe or not.
But I can bet those LB distributors dare not ask their prospects visit this blog before they commit. Will you ?(since you think my messages are not believable)
b3rnard7,
Thank you and yes, you are in my approved name list. I have seen many of your messages. Can you please send me an email to stopmlmscams@yahoo.com.sg and include a 7 digits number. After more than 24 hours later, disclose the 7 digits here so that I am sure no one else have impersonated you.
I cannot disclose our time and venue openly. I don't want any LB spy to join in and learn my strategy.
Dexter: Don't know what makes you think I am also a LB distributor, and you just pre-judged me not even asking what MLM biz that I'm in. This is again a typical "simple and naive" mindset, you think all of us who give positive feedback must be from LB? Wake up and smell the coffee, MLM is not new in M'ysia, there are many other MLM companies who are running genuine network marketing biz. NOT PRE-JUDGED OTHERS IF YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT MLM INDUSTRY.
cheer, he said network maker not network maketer,
so actually no one bothers him as he speak of no one. dun over react.
dexter,
some times i really wonder, why so afraid? afraid of wat? ur strategy? not as top secret as area 51 which every1 knows it exsit.
when, for those loyal anti, sure they dun bother how much needed to join ur meeting. well, atleast some 1 said no forcing for believes, not like some jerk.
Why should I care whether those who are against our comments are LB distributors or not ?
If a "non-LB distributor" come in here and think we commented without understanding their business, then this guy is even worse than a LB distributor.
We are commenting on the LB business to prevent victims.
LB distributors are commenting on us to save their business, obviously.
Why are "NON-LB distributors" commenting on us ?? Too shameful to admit they are LB supporters, obviously.
Network marketer,
Don't try to use the cunning tricks of pretending and pointing fingers to the whole MLM industry. We seen enough of that.
We are only refering to the 2 Companies that sold LB in Malaysia.
We are not interested to know which company you come from.
Network Marketer is right in saying that its about choice and honestly, no one forced anyone to "rob, steal, beg or borrow" RM30K to invest in LB.
However, I feel that the age to be in MLM should be increased to 21 and this will eliminate many bad apples who target college students.
As for university students who use their loan and/or scholarship to invest in LB, its ultimately their choice.
However, everything must be transparent and above board. New members must be told what is refundable and what is not.
Members who feel that they have been "cheated" must have a recourse.
This part of the LB marketing plan, I believe needs to be clarified.
My philosophy in life is "There are no victims in this world".
-preacher-
i have seen a few MLM companies such as Amway, Cosway and etc.. i have nothing against those MLM that focus on selling products rather then to recruit. In a website by the New York state Government, it is stated that Pyramid schemes are those company that emphazise on recruting rather than selling their products, in another words, using some products as a shield for leitimate business. Recruiting people are higher priority than the products. this is said to be a Scam and is Illegal in many states of America.
What im stressing here is, i dont think other MLM does these except LB.thanks
You are wrong in some ways, there are others multi level marketing compnay recruiting and they too prioty it. But ofcouse, the problem is that they need less money as the product itself is too common. After all, they too sometimes critis others.
For some reason, there are people who in their mind set and close untill believing all those who are giving alternative comments are surely "LB distributor".
This is something historical, because once ago, president bush said this, "Those who are not with us, are against us."
Well, anyway, I looking forward as USA collase because and hopefuly things would not be the same at here.
It is good to be extreame where you so hated something, but do not let that blind you. You can take my words, or just assume I am just another "LB distributor". Who cares what you think? Maybe your girlfriend, mother in law, sisters and brothers and parents care?
Hahs, you can say I just joking.
Dear nojk,
I have no idea what you are talking about, can someone pls explain?
i agreed with Mr Yong Chung Wah, it is
definitely a scam if a MLM uses a product to try to shadow their main intention "recruitment". Maybe there are more other MLM that does it, but they definitely dont do it as agressive as LB does. Something has to be done with this LB thing or our country is going to be in a mess in the future.
i dont mind meeting up with you to get to know what u thinking too! :)
Dexter,
Well personally, i don't care about what people say. Continue on with your crusades in getting rid of LB. It's so futile and you guys are utterly wasting your own precious little time of your life doing so.. tata :)
deedee,
all these are not futile, believe me..the main objective is to create "AWARNESS" and im sure there are heaps whom have refrained themselves to join LB after reading this blog. This blog has definitely saved alot of souls from getting into the mistakes of their life.
Hi Dexter
Have seen enough..? Shame on you, you're the one who start pointing finger at others first, and now accusing others using cunning tactics..what's wrong with you? If you can't take it, then don't be the leader, shame on you..
Dexter, dun over react la, why u tell ppl not to believe what I said? only u can say meh? this is not fair la
network marketer,
You should be ashamed of for repeated lies if you called yourself a networker.
I am not and I am not a leader, don't make claimes for me.
To the last nameless one,
I never said "only I can say". So please stop such dirty tricks. Don't you feel ashamed too ?
Well, keep on fighting like a child, all know how to flame and keep flaming, no harmony here at all. Start to bore of all these useless comments.
dexter, I support your goodwill and most of what you are currently doing, but please bear in mind that no-one is perfect. If you know this fact, you should probably be more modest and not flood--or try to take over--the blog with so much redundant information/words. A lot of points you gave when replying to others' comments can actually be found on earlier blog posts or comments. Readers prefer taking their time to read an entire concise blog and think who are right and who are wrong than taking forever to read a blog with people arguing round and round and not going anywhere far. If there is any constructiveness in those arguments, it is not much. Don't you know that keeping quiet doesn't mean being stupid or less wise? On the contrary, saying too much will only increase the chance of making an error.
hi dexter,
keep it cool. No point throwing allegations to others.
It annoys more others.
Just say what you want to say. Then let others judge. It's their rights.
yaa said,
You are right but it is important to show others too how dishonest these people are in their way of argueing. Yes, some regulars may find it boring but it is important for the newcomers here. Newcomers normally only read the latest post. As long as these people keep "repeating" to mislead, we should keep "repeating" to clarify and bring awareness.
steven,
What allegations have I made on anyone ? Are you mistaken ? My last post is to clarify 2 allegations made against me.
Take note the the purpose of these blogs are to bring awareness about the LB business here, not to make friends.
My messages are meant to TEACH, not to PLEASE.
To teach? Teach what? False accusation? Teaching others with your silo mindset and arrogrant attitude...I sympathize you.
just hope that those LB distributors will stop acting rich! disgusting!
by the way dexter, can i know when will u have meeting? n where? i wanna join too!
nicholas87: u need to email dexter at stopmlmscams@yahoo.com.sg.the gathering is a secret gathering!
don't forget about me
Once again,we meet again.United by Fate against the DCHL/SYN/LB Scams!
NO DCHL/SYN MEMBERS SHALL LIVE!!!
holy war?
B3rnard7: Your comment well-representing your 'terrorist' instinct..can't believe m'ysian can be so extreme..who do u think u r? Oshama of M'ysia? SHAME ON YOU!
Is WAR on DCHL/SYN!!!
not holy war!
Confused...r u against LB or DCHL or SYN...?? What abt Bel Air..? They r same like LB..product, plan, etc..no war against them??
Wow big news!!
Someone tried to ask for RM100K each from steven yeam and DCHL through a middle party or else they will use 2 blogs to bring down their business. Steven Yeam and company ignored them and they reduce to 50K now.
If they pay, one of the blog owner will admit that he has misunderstood the business and apologise. The other one will announce that he has happily got his refund and case closed.
I immediately think of this blog.
What a trick.
Look like they will not get it.
Using website threats to make money are common in overseas but in Malaysia, maybe 1st time.
RM100k only???
so little meh...
if there's really someone asking money from steven yeam n dchl.. should ask more..
SYN fren plz dont spoil the market.i was ex SYN but found that the system really does not work.then my current UPline from another group-the one you all always critisize slow in progress-save me.i am in taiwan group.plz la dont spoil the market la.dont recruit people and spoil let them die.i sell Lampe.i dont recruit people.now i am a marquis in taiwan group.u spoiling the name of LB.make me have a hard time to sell all the oil.
first, people will ask if you are lb member,
second, sure counter all your talking and say you no brain,
third, thy will wonder if what you saying is real or not
first, if you are a lb member, dun come here
second, if you dun say a thing they will counter nothing from you,
third, they dunno u here if you dun talk.
i think the best way to educate people is through media... for those of you that are in the media industry or newsagency, pls help...
i've been to an 8 hours LB event, listening or trying to understand what is it about them. At the end of the event, lotsa people approached me and asked me if i am interested in joining them, i politely rejected them saying that i am happy with my job, but they just never stop, when i started to fire a few rounds back out of frustration, they're saying that i am narrow minded... hello??? i am open minded enuf to sit for 8 hours listening to your 'gospel' yet two lines of my comment you can't even stand... i rest my case....
LB may not be illegal, it is immoral!!!
Well it's seems Okado seems to be interested enough to waste his time here than to do something productive, lol!
okado..
Yes, SYN is going to have an event in Singapore...
I wish I would have taken the project to run their event. Eat their money.
So yeah 6th July..
It is an event to impress others..
So to say...
If you can do so big, others will be impressed and they will automatically join..
Wait for it.. their big is not so big enough yet..
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