Tuesday, April 18, 2006

Recruiting, recruiting, recruiting

Ever wonder what is Count Generation Bonus, Marquis Generation Bonus and Duke Generation Bonus? Just equate Generation with Recruitment. Then you'll have a better idea.

If you look into the marketing plan, this is how the payout is:

Count Generation Bonus for a maximum of 6 generation: 5%, 3%,2%,1.5%,1%,1% i.e. giving a total of 13.5%.

Now, as your rank go higher, you could enjoy all these recruitment bonus. If you are a count, and your downlines get another Count, you could enjoy it.

If you are a marquis, and your group gets another Count, you also get it. But when suddenly your downline decided to Challenge Marquis, and he succeeds, you will get Marquis Generation Bonus.

This bonus applies to Count and above.

Now, we all know DCHL Lampe Berger is giving out a "promotion". You can join the game for just 30k. The pattern is such that, since we have this promotion, the whole group will ask you to join in as Count, to fuel the growth.

Your marquis, duke, arch duke Steven Yeam, will all get a pinch of bonus whenever a new member joins in as Count, just because of this Count Generation Bonus. Just think that for a second, that's why they are really desperate for you to join in as Count. Not because of teamwork, not because they really care about your dreams, but just because they can earn some money from you, as they themselves has thrown the same amount.

Now, your marquis, will just need to maintain personal sales of 20,000 PV, and he'll get all those benefits. To him, the most lucrative income in this business, comes from

1. Group Sales (this is where they get a percentage from downline sales).
2. Count Generation Bonus

It doesn't comes from his own personal sales. So to all LB members, if you are at the lowest, get out of this business, get your refund and get a real job.

If you are marquis, well, count your good old days of getting 5 figure income. It will end soon.

19 Comments:

Anonymous nojk said...

That is a term front-end-loading, which means that to archive certain position, the distributor has to buy alot of products. Which this is bad as most products are hardly consumable, sooner or later, it become so called, dust gather product. In books that are written by profesor in some American university, company who pratice this type of method, would not be able to survive more than 5 years. This is due to most distributor later on will start complaint about the products are useless.

In the book, he state that,
"if you really want to join a Multi Level Marketing company, you need to take some reserch on the company, but if the company has operate more than 5 years, mostly is a good choice. Because, there sure some good reason for it to survive such a period."

Luckily, most people anti Digital Crown Holding Limited, not the industry. Why? Because, in statistic and in pratical, Multi Level Marketing is proven to be one of the industry that can help you in earning of second sources of income. For people who anti Multi Level Marketing, think again, the industry already been there for so many years, is that means we got alots of idiot in our world?

However, it does not means that you must join. You can still live your life without joining Multi Level Marketing.

the reason why I did not use short form is, because there are alot of people though I was freak or something.

Anyway, I told what I knew. Does not joking.

3:55 AM  
Blogger One Man's Perception said...

nojk,
Nicely put, like your comment, it seems more civilized. About the short form text comments, those were horrible to read.
Anyway, MLM does have some issue that needs to be handling. Hard to point it out at once. But, I do believe that if a person runs a business ethically he will be success no matter what type of business he in.

One Man's Perceptions
Calvin

4:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually, i have a friend who's into this LB MLM too... what he's saying is the group is trying setup a large base and recruiting people now...once the network/base has stabilize, they will start selling the products...

if this is true, then it doesn't sound like a pyramid scheme or any fraud stuff... but like what nojk said, he got it spot on... if the market is flooded with so many stocks of this LB products... supply more than demand... it's gonna burst!

my take is... there's no right or wrong...this is a good chance to earn some part time money... when something grows too big, it will surely become not manageable and hence, you see a lots of people get 'conned' or 'cheated'...never get refund... there's always bad apples...

so conclusion is? you are in charge of your own money! decide what is best for you using YOUR OWN money... if it's burnt, learn a lesson and move on... ;)

cheers!

5:19 AM  
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10:05 AM  
Anonymous b3rnard7 said...

Recruitng,recruitng,recruiting...

Is their only job is order to earn.So wu liao....

What they do,is just help their cult leader "Steven Yeam" to earn money only.The are "STeven Yeam chess" on a chess game!

11:56 AM  
Anonymous cheapass said...

I was looking for some cheap handphones at www.lelong.com.my .Accidently saw so many people posted lampe berger essential oil for sale and to bid..and no one bother to bid...until wanna sell at lelong...you say cheap or not...

9:54 PM  
Anonymous Metal Steed Rider said...

cheap.

4:08 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

hi nojk,

Although I agreed with you, I wish to highlight about "5 years old" Company part. Many American books as well as old Companies will advise that but I feel that is a very very unfair and unwise.

If those 5 years old Companies are not given a chance in the beginning, have they got 5 years or more ?

After they became "seniors" companies, they emphasized that. Doesn't that show they are not very honest people ?

MLM is intead a good way of business but it is true many bad people as well as naive people are involved in it.

5:53 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

cheapass,

Can you give us the link ?

Steven,

Hope you can start a new post on the "lelong site" to prove that their claims that those bottles can appreciate in prices like antiques are not true.

6:31 AM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi dexter,

sure, but I am guessing most of this lamps are sold by LB members themselves, who are stuck with the stock.

7:03 AM  
Blogger Dexter said...

Yes, I think some distributors could not sell their stock so go to lelong or maybe customers bought it and find it useless.

My point is if people need to sell there, it shows these products are not easy to sell.

Bringing it to more people's attention will be good.

7:52 AM  
Anonymous nojk said...

Well, I just type out what the book state, does not mean anything. And it only means, those which last more than 5 years can last so long, surely got something good at. All along does not mean anything, it still take your own judgement.

It is quite easy to check the lelong, you go to the lelong site than type in "lampe berger" in the serch box and you can find it.

However, I does not mean anything but my guess is, those bottles sell on lelong is sell by those quiters, who can not get back refund.

And I think that product sold by Multi Level Marketing company hardly any one will buy by bidding.

The reason is that if some one wants to buy, they probably get it through thier friends or family which are distributor. Surely they will not waste time on going online when thier friends and family can provide the products for them.

Even though it is cheaper on lelong, but you would not go for others when your friends and family can sell to you. Some times, it is not about the cost of the products, their relationship kick in as the price become some insignificant.

However, I did not mean that this must be true, I just list out some other kind of fact. Hope that people do not misunderstand me.

This couldnt be joking...

10:34 AM  
Anonymous cheapass said...

here's the link:

http://list.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/
List.asp?DA=A&TheKeyword=lampe+berger&
CategoryID=

11:48 AM  
Anonymous cheapass said...

paste it at the search paragraph and follow by other paragraph..there are 3 paragraphs as you can see there..

11:50 AM  
Anonymous CS said...

Let see what can a LB member make as a count and a marq in an
ideal scheme where it multiply by 5 and each person invest 2345.
Let assume that member invest 30k to be a count and intitle to
the bonus.

Count Generation Bonus for a maximum of 6 generations:
5%, 3%, 2%, 1.5%,1%,1% i.e.giving a total of 13.5%.

No of person x 2345 (sales) = total sales x bonus = income

1st generation 5 x 2345 = 11725 x 5% = 586.25
2nd gen 25 x 2345 = 58625 x 3% =1758.75
3rd gen 125 x 2345 =293 125 x 2%
= 5862.5
4th gen 625 x 2345 = 1 465 625 x 1.5%
= 21 984.38
5th gen 3135 x 2345 = 7 328 125 x 1%
= 73 281.25
6th gen 15625 x 2345 = 36 640 625 x 1%
= 366406.25

Looks good… I can make over 70k at the 5th level.
and another level almost 400k.. Right…. ?
Think you can achive 625 people in your network?
Even 125 people?

Now wait a minute, with over 100 people should I not be a marqui..
“I should earn more”
“I have work very very hard you know.”
Look back at the figures..
Nope not yet a marqui dear mate.. You need 500k sales to be marq.
100 people is not enough la fella…Must have people in the 4th level.

“Alrite.. Fine! I shall play the 30k game.”

1st generation 5 x 30 000 = 150 000 x 5%
= 7 500
2nd gen 25 x 30 000 = 750 000 x 3% =22 500
3rd gen 125 x 30 000 = 750 000 x 2%
= 75 000
4th gen 625 x 30 000 = 18 750 000 x 1.5%
= 281 250

“I want my Marqui position!”

If you have 5 counts under you can challenge Marq. If your 5 counts play 30k then their downline must play 30k otherwise no chance to be a Maq. Let say somehow each of your dowline found 5 people with 30k. 25 people total invested 30k each.
You have passed the 500k group sales just at the 2nd level.

“Congrats!" .. "Bravo"..

“I have fullied the requirements to be Marqui”
Are you a marq yet? Not yet dear LB member.. Hang on..
Promotion to marq takes place the following month after qualification.
Now you are a marq then what? Residual income? Maybe.. Maybe not..

Marquis Personal Group Bonus of 2% on all groups' sales generated by down-line Counts.

Marquis Generation Bonus of a total 6% (based on total group points generated by downline Marquis for a maximum of 6 generations).

Marquis Asia Profit Sharing of a total 1.5% (based on total group points generated by downline Marquis for a maximum of 6 generations, and paid half yearly).

Extra 2% only just for being a marq. Asia profit share? Is your downline a Marq?

Now why it is there are some marq who stop doing the bisness…
The answer is somehow the income stop, i.e. no more sales.
If you become marq with 30k downlines but then only rm 2345 recruitments afterwards, you would only be at the 3rd level. Look at figures for 3rd level, total 125 people is 290k. 2% percent of that. Add another 2% Marq bonus. Just over 11k. Financial freedom?

Do you think anybody is stupid enough to put in his own money say if 100k short of sales just to make Marqui?

Very possible.. If everybody encourage him..

Does it benefit that person? Just to make Marq…
“Oh you can earn it back later”
Wrong.. If you have a strong base network you do not need to put in your own money.
If your is network is not strong enough then you will burn.

Some people can see right from the beginning it is a one sided affair.
In any industry if you make sales, you get comission for it. For this case you are always one step below. Comission after you have achieve the status,
After you have made the sales. And that comission is for your future sales, not current or past sales.
No guarentee. Still the game has to continue. Still have to make sales.

So if that person gets 22.5 k comission to achieve a Marq (getting all 2nd level 30k). He can say he made 10 figure month. Yeah.. for just two months. Do you think he achieve financial freedom?
Don’t believe on the comission figures? 500k sales and 3 percent of that, how much?

How bout a Marq who plays the rm2345 game? He would challenge Marq when he has 5 counts, where his downline has 25 people under them each. So at that point he has 125 people working for him, where he would start to earn in the 4th level bonus if the sales continue. Much much better and more money.

Just be informed before you made a decision. Know all the facts.
“Anybody can do it”, they say. True.. Almost correct..
But not everybody.

10:56 PM  
Blogger Steven Yip said...

hi cs,

thanks for the great comment.

The devils is in the details.

12:16 AM  
Blogger One Man's Perception said...

CS,
Your analyze are very detail...
Loved it!
One Man's Perceptions
Calvin

3:12 AM  
Anonymous CS said...

Thanks guys..

Hopefully more people would figure it out early on..

6:38 PM  
Anonymous ANTI SCHEME PYRAMID! said...

LAMPA BERGER..
MLM + HYIP + PIRAMID SCHEME

UPLINE= SURUH ITU INI:
- CARI DUIT (IGT KITORANG NI BANK KER??)
- CARI ORG BARU (NI DIPANGGIL BISNESS KE, CARI2 ORG NI?)

DOWNLINE= JADI PENGHUTANG TEGAR
- PINJAM BANK, PINJAM DUIT KAWAN, PINJAM SANA SINI..
UPLINE TUNGGU DUIT DATANG.. CEHH..

ORG ATAS= TAK KASI DUIT KPD DOWNLINE UNTUK UPGRADE JADI COUNT @ MARQUIS (W/PUN DAH KAYA)
ORG ATAS LEPAK KAT OPIS SAHAJA..
(AJAR CARA NAK TARIK ORG, AJAR CAMNE NAK DPT DUIT, TUNGGU ORG BARU DTG KE OFFICE HASIL BAWAAN DOWNLINE UTK PENGARUHI MEREKA)

ORG BAWAH= KENA CARI ORG, CARI DUIT, BAWAK KE OPIS
DUIT YG DILABURKAN TERLALU TINGGI & TIDAK MUNASABAH BAGI PELAJAR (KEBANYAKKAN YG MASUK BISNES INI ADALAH PELAJAR IPT !!!!!!!)- MASA PERGI PICNIC ROMBONGAN SYN= 99% IS STUDENT! WTF??

NAPE X CARI ORG TUA? TAKUT KENA SOUND?? NI JUAL BARANG KE CARI ORG?
SETELAH ORG BARU MASUK (RM 2,500), ORG BARU ITU AKAN DAPAT BARANG2 LAMPA BERGER YG X HAPA HAPA TAH DESIGN DIA..

SECARA X LANGSUNG SYARIKAT DPT MENJUAL BARANG2 NYA YG BERNILAI RATUSAN RINGGIT BAGI SETIAP PRODUK..

KERETA SPORT TU BERLAGAK JE..
LAGI PUN, DUIT TU DATANG DARIPADA ORG BAWAH JUGAK..

HALAL KE HARAM?
ORG BAWAH CARI DUIT, CARI ORG BARU,
ORG ATAS MENIKMATI DUIT TERSEBUT BERDASARKAN RIBA.. (PERATUSAN KOMISYEN HASIL USAHA DOWNLINE CARI ORG BARU)

HALAL KE? DIORANG YG MASUK NI X PIKIR HALAL HARAM KE? TAU NAK DPT RM10,000 JE TAU..PIKIAQ LA DULU..
TAH USTAZ MANA DIORANG AMIK KATA HALAL. PASTU USTAZ TU TANYA BALIK, ''KAMU NI KATA HALAL HARAM, KAMU NI SEMAYANG 5 WAKTU KE?''

CEH.. ORG TANYA HALAL KE HARAM, DIA ATTACK ORG BALIK.. JAWAB JE LA.. DIA KATA HALAL, KENAPA ADA % KOMISYEN PLAK? TU RIBA TU!
HAPRAK PY USTAZ.. USTAZ SYN TU KATA HALAL SBB DIA PUN KERJA KAT SITU..
RIBA TU HARAM LA MANGKUK..

LAMPA BERGER..
MLM + HYIP + PIRAMID SCHEME


DI SEBALIK JUAL BARANG DI MATA PIHAK BERKUASA,
MOTIF MEREKA LEBIH KEPADA MENCARI DOWNLINE SPY ORG ATAS LEBIH KAYA..

WHAT A SHAME & DIRTY BUSINESS.. =_=

FROM:
ANTI SCHEME PYRAMID

6:22 AM  

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